Re: Ask for help, about the trivial patches.

2007-07-15 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
TripleX Chung wrote: > Jesper Juhl wrote: >> Note: my explanations below are based on how I understand these >> things, but I'm not the trivial patch monkey nor did I help create >> these guidelines, so I'm in no way authoritative on the subject. >> >> On 13/07/07, TripleX Chung <[EMAIL

Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-15 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Al Boldi wrote: > > This should be the responsibility of the kexec'd hibernating kernel. Note > though in (6), the normal kernel takes care of preparing devices, then the > hibernating kernel dumps the image and either calls S4 or S3. On resume > from S3 it can immediately switch over to the

Re: Hibernation considerations

2007-07-15 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Al Boldi wrote: This should be the responsibility of the kexec'd hibernating kernel. Note though in (6), the normal kernel takes care of preparing devices, then the hibernating kernel dumps the image and either calls S4 or S3. On resume from S3 it can immediately switch over to the

Re: Ask for help, about the trivial patches.

2007-07-15 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
TripleX Chung wrote: Jesper Juhl wrote: Note: my explanations below are based on how I understand these things, but I'm not the trivial patch monkey nor did I help create these guidelines, so I'm in no way authoritative on the subject. On 13/07/07, TripleX Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation

2007-07-12 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [snip] > > So if a user wants to install a kernel.org kernel on his system, (s)he'll have > to compile and install two kernels with different options. > > That doesn't sound good to me. :-) > definitely. that sounds kind of strange, not to think of having to remember

Re: NPTL

2007-07-12 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So I can say that in linux 'thread' == 'process'? > No. It's more like, in linux threads are visible to the kernel (unlike in N:1 thread models, linux is 1:1). Threads are the basic unit of scheduling. A process can have >1 threads. > Is kernel routine 'kthread'

Re: NPTL

2007-07-12 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I can say that in linux 'thread' == 'process'? No. It's more like, in linux threads are visible to the kernel (unlike in N:1 thread models, linux is 1:1). Threads are the basic unit of scheduling. A process can have 1 threads. Is kernel routine 'kthread' creating

Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kexec jump: The first step to kexec base hibernation

2007-07-12 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [snip] So if a user wants to install a kernel.org kernel on his system, (s)he'll have to compile and install two kernels with different options. That doesn't sound good to me. :-) definitely. that sounds kind of strange, not to think of having to remember which

Re: RSA support into kernel?

2007-07-06 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Gautam Singaraju wrote: > Is there any attempt being made to provide software based RSA > cryptographic support in kernel? I see that Linux supports > Hardware based cryptographic devices (VIA Padlock ACE). How is the > performance of such hardware? How well are these devices supported? > -GS i

Re: RSA support into kernel?

2007-07-06 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Gautam Singaraju wrote: Is there any attempt being made to provide software based RSA cryptographic support in kernel? I see that Linux supports Hardware based cryptographic devices (VIA Padlock ACE). How is the performance of such hardware? How well are these devices supported? -GS i fail

Re: speedstep-centrino (no such device)

2007-06-28 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Renato S. Yamane wrote: > Hi, > > Is impossible use speedstep in my Laptop with Pentium M 1,86Ghz: > > #modprobe speedstep-centrino > FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino > (/lib/modules/2.6.18-3-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): > No such device > > To do

Re: speedstep-centrino (no such device)

2007-06-28 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Renato S. Yamane wrote: Hi, Is impossible use speedstep in my Laptop with Pentium M 1,86Ghz: #modprobe speedstep-centrino FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.18-3-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device To do that

Re: How innovative is Linux?

2007-06-25 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Jan Engelhardt wrote: > On Jun 25 2007 09:37, Randy Dunlap wrote: >> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Jan Engelhardt wrote: >>> On Jun 25 2007 11:12, Lennart Sorensen wrote: It is also quite likely the reply was written before reading the other comments. With the volume on

Re: How innovative is Linux?

2007-06-25 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Jun 25 2007 09:37, Randy Dunlap wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Jun 25 2007 11:12, Lennart Sorensen wrote: It is also quite likely the reply was written before reading the other comments. With the volume on lkml, reading all

Re: How innovative is Linux?

2007-06-23 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Grozdan Nikolov wrote: > On Saturday 23 June 2007 19:53, you wrote: >> On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 14:17 +0200, Grozdan Nikolov wrote: >> [...] >> >>> Please CC me as I'm not subscribe to this mailing list, >> Perhaps you should change that and find most answers for yourself. >> >>> Thanks! >> Thanks!

make xconfig failure on 2.6.21.5

2007-06-23 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Hi, I have a Kubuntu 7.04 distro with Qt4 development packages installed. Trying to do a 'make xconfig' fails with: HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep HOSTCC scripts/basic/docproc CHECK qt * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that * the QT development package is correctly

Re: How innovative is Linux?

2007-06-23 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Torsten Duwe wrote: > On Saturday 23 June 2007, you wrote: > >> hmm, wasn't loadable kernel modules first implemented in SunOS 4.x [...] > Yes, but that was pretty cumbersome. You had to resolve the symbols in user > space, using a hopefully matching /vmunix. Linux was first to feature an >

Re: How innovative is Linux?

2007-06-23 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Torsten Duwe wrote: On Saturday 23 June 2007, you wrote: hmm, wasn't loadable kernel modules first implemented in SunOS 4.x [...] Yes, but that was pretty cumbersome. You had to resolve the symbols in user space, using a hopefully matching /vmunix. Linux was first to feature an in-kernel

make xconfig failure on 2.6.21.5

2007-06-23 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Hi, I have a Kubuntu 7.04 distro with Qt4 development packages installed. Trying to do a 'make xconfig' fails with: HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep HOSTCC scripts/basic/docproc CHECK qt * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that * the QT development package is correctly

Re: How innovative is Linux?

2007-06-23 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Grozdan Nikolov wrote: On Saturday 23 June 2007 19:53, you wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 14:17 +0200, Grozdan Nikolov wrote: [...] Please CC me as I'm not subscribe to this mailing list, Perhaps you should change that and find most answers for yourself. Thanks! Thanks! Bernd

Re: how about mutual compatibility between Linux's GPLv2 and GPLv3?

2007-06-21 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Alexandre Oliva wrote: > Here's an idea that just occurred to me, after all the discussions > about motivations, tit-for-tat, authors' wishes and all. > > If GPLv3 were to have a clause that permitted combination/linking with > code under GPLv2, this wouldn't be enough for GPLv3 projects to use >

Re: how about mutual compatibility between Linux's GPLv2 and GPLv3?

2007-06-21 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Alexandre Oliva wrote: Here's an idea that just occurred to me, after all the discussions about motivations, tit-for-tat, authors' wishes and all. If GPLv3 were to have a clause that permitted combination/linking with code under GPLv2, this wouldn't be enough for GPLv3 projects to use Linux

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-14 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Theodore Tso wrote: > Basically, in the US, you get the best justice money can buy. :-) that has to be one of the best one-liners ever! :) > > - Ted -jb -- Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy. - To unsubscribe from

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-14 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Theodore Tso wrote: Basically, in the US, you get the best justice money can buy. :-) that has to be one of the best one-liners ever! :) - Ted -jb -- Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy. - To unsubscribe from this

Re: PC speaker

2007-06-12 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Lee Revell wrote: > On 6/12/07, R.F. Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is it possible to write a kernel module which, when loaded, will blow >> the PC >> speaker? > > LOL. May I ask what your use case is? > or isn't it mis-use case :) > Lee -jb -- Tact is the art of making a point without

Re: PC speaker

2007-06-12 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Lee Revell wrote: On 6/12/07, R.F. Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to write a kernel module which, when loaded, will blow the PC speaker? LOL. May I ask what your use case is? or isn't it mis-use case :) Lee -jb -- Tact is the art of making a point without making an

Re: Size of kernel modules

2007-06-06 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Christoph Pleger wrote: > Hello, > [snip] > After the new kernel package had been created, I installed it. After > that, I looked into the directory /boot and was very surprised: The > initial ramdisk of the new kernel was much larger than the initrd of the > old kernel. To find out the cause for

Re: Size of kernel modules

2007-06-06 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Christoph Pleger wrote: Hello, [snip] After the new kernel package had been created, I installed it. After that, I looked into the directory /boot and was very surprised: The initial ramdisk of the new kernel was much larger than the initrd of the old kernel. To find out the cause for this,

Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful", take 3

2007-05-12 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Stefan Richter wrote: > Satyam Sharma wrote: >> Coming back to the document, we do need to document / find >> consensus on the "preferred" way to do similar business in the >> kernel, and my opinion as far as that is concerned is to shun >> volatile wherever possible (which includes the case

Re: [PATCH] volatile considered harmful, take 3

2007-05-12 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Stefan Richter wrote: Satyam Sharma wrote: Coming back to the document, we do need to document / find consensus on the preferred way to do similar business in the kernel, and my opinion as far as that is concerned is to shun volatile wherever possible (which includes the case originally

Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful", take 2

2007-05-11 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Johannes Stezenbach wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:08:54AM +0530, jimmy bahuleyan wrote: >> Jonathan Corbet wrote: >> [snip..] >>> + >>> + - The jiffies variable is special in that it can have a different value >>> +every time it is referenc

Re: [PATCH] volatile considered harmful, take 2

2007-05-11 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Johannes Stezenbach wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:08:54AM +0530, jimmy bahuleyan wrote: Jonathan Corbet wrote: [snip..] + + - The jiffies variable is special in that it can have a different value +every time it is referenced, but it can be read without any special +locking. So

Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful", take 2

2007-05-10 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Jonathan Corbet wrote: [snip..] > + > + - The jiffies variable is special in that it can have a different value > +every time it is referenced, but it can be read without any special > +locking. So jiffies can be volatile, but the addition of other > +variables of this type is

Re: [PATCH] volatile considered harmful, take 2

2007-05-10 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Jonathan Corbet wrote: [snip..] + + - The jiffies variable is special in that it can have a different value +every time it is referenced, but it can be read without any special +locking. So jiffies can be volatile, but the addition of other +variables of this type is strongly

Re: [ck] Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-18 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Mike Galbraith wrote: > On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 08:22 +0100, Radoslaw Szkodzinski wrote: > >> I'd recon KDE regresses because of kioslaves waiting on a pipe >> (communication with the app they're doing IO for) and then expiring. >> That's why splitting IO from an app isn't exactly smart. It should

Re: [ck] Re: RSDL v0.31

2007-03-18 Thread jimmy bahuleyan
Mike Galbraith wrote: On Sun, 2007-03-18 at 08:22 +0100, Radoslaw Szkodzinski wrote: I'd recon KDE regresses because of kioslaves waiting on a pipe (communication with the app they're doing IO for) and then expiring. That's why splitting IO from an app isn't exactly smart. It should at