Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 20:53 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: > I think I've gone through every possible value here from asound.state to > each setting in KDE itself. Still, the only sound that works is the one > coming from line-out, without the port replicator, no sound exists > whatsoever. Both of

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-08 Thread Mark Canter
I think I've gone through every possible value here from asound.state to each setting in KDE itself. Still, the only sound that works is the one coming from line-out, without the port replicator, no sound exists whatsoever. Both of the below controls are set to false in asound.state and

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-08 Thread Pierre Ossman
Takashi Iwai wrote: At Tue, 08 Mar 2005 02:10:06 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: Takashi Iwai wrote: Look at /etc/asound.state whether it contains the value of "Headphone Jack Sense" control true or false. It saves the setting once I've been in 2.6.11. From an earlier kernel

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-08 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Tue, 08 Mar 2005 02:10:06 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > Takashi Iwai wrote: > > >>>Look at /etc/asound.state whether it contains the value of "Headphone > >>>Jack Sense" control true or false. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>It saves the setting once I've been in 2.6.11. From an earlier

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-08 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Tue, 08 Mar 2005 02:10:06 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: Takashi Iwai wrote: Look at /etc/asound.state whether it contains the value of Headphone Jack Sense control true or false. It saves the setting once I've been in 2.6.11. From an earlier kernel there is no such entry.

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-08 Thread Pierre Ossman
Takashi Iwai wrote: At Tue, 08 Mar 2005 02:10:06 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: Takashi Iwai wrote: Look at /etc/asound.state whether it contains the value of Headphone Jack Sense control true or false. It saves the setting once I've been in 2.6.11. From an earlier kernel

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-08 Thread Mark Canter
I think I've gone through every possible value here from asound.state to each setting in KDE itself. Still, the only sound that works is the one coming from line-out, without the port replicator, no sound exists whatsoever. Both of the below controls are set to false in asound.state and

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 20:53 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: I think I've gone through every possible value here from asound.state to each setting in KDE itself. Still, the only sound that works is the one coming from line-out, without the port replicator, no sound exists whatsoever. Both of the

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:16:10 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > Takashi Iwai wrote: > > >At Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:16:03 +0100, > >Pierre Ossman wrote: > > > > > >>It seems I spoke too soon. The defaults picked by the driver are > >>actually fine. It seems to be alsactl store/restore that did

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:13:23 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > Lee Revell wrote: > > >So is there a bug or not? Mark seems to be the only one affected. > > > >It's important to follow up, because these so-called "ALSA regressions" > >are generating bad press. > > > >Lee > > > > > > > I can

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Pierre Ossman
Lee Revell wrote: >So is there a bug or not? Mark seems to be the only one affected. > >It's important to follow up, because these so-called "ALSA regressions" >are generating bad press. > >Lee > > > I can generate the error using the following procedure: 1. Boot in 2.6.10. Remove

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Pierre Ossman
Takashi Iwai wrote: Look at /etc/asound.state whether it contains the value of "Headphone Jack Sense" control true or false. It saves the setting once I've been in 2.6.11. From an earlier kernel there is no such entry. Of course, the earlier version didn't have this. And did you take a

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Pierre Ossman
Takashi Iwai wrote: >At Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:16:03 +0100, >Pierre Ossman wrote: > > >>It seems I spoke too soon. The defaults picked by the driver are >>actually fine. It seems to be alsactl store/restore that did something >>strange when coming from an older kernel. >> >> > >My guess is

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:16:03 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: > > Pierre Ossman wrote: > > Andrew Morton wrote: > > > >> Mark Canter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has > >>> been written. > >>> > >>> It appears to be an

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:16:03 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: Pierre Ossman wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: Mark Canter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Pierre Ossman
Takashi Iwai wrote: At Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:16:03 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: It seems I spoke too soon. The defaults picked by the driver are actually fine. It seems to be alsactl store/restore that did something strange when coming from an older kernel. My guess is that kmix is the

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Pierre Ossman
Takashi Iwai wrote: Look at /etc/asound.state whether it contains the value of Headphone Jack Sense control true or false. It saves the setting once I've been in 2.6.11. From an earlier kernel there is no such entry. Of course, the earlier version didn't have this. And did you take a

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Pierre Ossman
Lee Revell wrote: So is there a bug or not? Mark seems to be the only one affected. It's important to follow up, because these so-called ALSA regressions are generating bad press. Lee I can generate the error using the following procedure: 1. Boot in 2.6.10. Remove /etc/asound.conf and

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:13:23 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: Lee Revell wrote: So is there a bug or not? Mark seems to be the only one affected. It's important to follow up, because these so-called ALSA regressions are generating bad press. Lee I can generate the error using the

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-07 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:16:10 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: Takashi Iwai wrote: At Fri, 04 Mar 2005 22:16:03 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: It seems I spoke too soon. The defaults picked by the driver are actually fine. It seems to be alsactl store/restore that did something strange

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 22:16 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: > Pierre Ossman wrote: > > Andrew Morton wrote: > > > >> Mark Canter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has > >>> been written. > >>> > >>> It appears to be an issue

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 22:16 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: Pierre Ossman wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: Mark Canter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense'

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Pierre Ossman
Pierre Ossman wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: Mark Canter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense' (as kde labels it). The issue is in the way the 8x0 addresses the

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 15:40 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:46 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: > > > >>The same issue exists on a T42p (ICH4). Doesn't that kind of defeat the > >>purpose? The thought of having to disable the headphone jack and reenable >

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:46 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: The same issue exists on a T42p (ICH4). Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? The thought of having to disable the headphone jack and reenable it each time is trivial considering you can go with the fact that sound did

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Mark Canter
Bill: As I have been running through the kernel setting: 2.6.11/sound/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c: static const snd_kcontrol_new_t snd_ac97_ad1981x_jack_sense[] = { AC97_SINGLE("Headphone Jack Sense", AC97_AD_JACK_SPDIF, 11, 1, 1), Note the last "1" is originally "0" in the kernel. This might do

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 00:13 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > If you want to complain, complain to the hardware manufacturers, who > > make devices where bit $foo means $bar in one hardware revision, and > > $baz in the next, and don't give us sufficient documentation to sort out >

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 00:13 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Lee Revell wrote: If you want to complain, complain to the hardware manufacturers, who make devices where bit $foo means $bar in one hardware revision, and $baz in the next, and don't give us sufficient documentation to sort out the

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Mark Canter
Bill: As I have been running through the kernel setting: 2.6.11/sound/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c: static const snd_kcontrol_new_t snd_ac97_ad1981x_jack_sense[] = { AC97_SINGLE(Headphone Jack Sense, AC97_AD_JACK_SPDIF, 11, 1, 1), Note the last 1 is originally 0 in the kernel. This might do it, but

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:46 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: The same issue exists on a T42p (ICH4). Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? The thought of having to disable the headphone jack and reenable it each time is trivial considering you can go with the fact that sound did

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 15:40 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Lee Revell wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:46 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: The same issue exists on a T42p (ICH4). Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? The thought of having to disable the headphone jack and reenable it each

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-04 Thread Pierre Ossman
Pierre Ossman wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: Mark Canter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense' (as kde labels it). The issue is in the way the 8x0 addresses the

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff Garzik
Lee Revell wrote: If you want to complain, complain to the hardware manufacturers, who make devices where bit $foo means $bar in one hardware revision, and $baz in the next, and don't give us sufficient documentation to sort out the mess. That's not terribly productive. Life is what it is. We

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Lee Revell
(I hope you don't mind me re-adding LKML because this illustrates an important point) On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 14:15 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: > Seems like the Q/A process is kind of borked if the below tests are known > but don't get applied before it gets released into the wild. We will never be

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 14:06 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: > Correct, but if you want to use your headphones you would have to enable > headphones on your mixer, which would negate your speaker output through > your docking station's output. If you want to use the docking station > speakers, you

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Mark Canter
Correct, but if you want to use your headphones you would have to enable headphones on your mixer, which would negate your speaker output through your docking station's output. If you want to use the docking station speakers, you would have to disable the headphones in order to get the

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Andrew Morton
Mark Canter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been > written. > > It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense' (as kde labels > it). The issue is in the way the 8x0 addresses the docking station/port >

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Mark Canter
Yes, flipping back to the 2.6.10 kernel resolves the sound issue through the docking station so that everything runs without incident. Though I'd like to see/assist in resolving the issue for future releases :). On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Andrew Morton wrote: Mark Canter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Pierre Ossman
Andrew Morton wrote: Mark Canter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense' (as kde labels it). The issue is in the way the 8x0 addresses the docking station/port

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Mark Canter
To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense' (as kde labels it). The issue is in the way the 8x0 addresses the docking station/port replicator's audio output jack. The mentioned quick fix does not

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Nish Aravamudan
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:06:38 -0500 (EST), Mark Canter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Correct, but if you want to use your headphones you would have to enable > headphones on your mixer, which would negate your speaker output through > your docking station's output. If you want to use the docking

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Lee Revell
This is the place to report any more information on this issue: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=852 Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:46 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: > The same issue exists on a T42p (ICH4). Doesn't that kind of defeat the > purpose? The thought of having to disable the headphone jack and reenable > it each time is trivial considering you can go with the fact that sound > did not

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Andrew Morton
Mark Canter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense' (as kde labels it). The issue is in the way the 8x0 addresses the docking station/port replicator's audio

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Mark Canter
Correct, but if you want to use your headphones you would have to enable headphones on your mixer, which would negate your speaker output through your docking station's output. If you want to use the docking station speakers, you would have to disable the headphones in order to get the

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Lee Revell
(I hope you don't mind me re-adding LKML because this illustrates an important point) On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 14:15 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: Seems like the Q/A process is kind of borked if the below tests are known but don't get applied before it gets released into the wild. We will never be

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff Garzik
Lee Revell wrote: If you want to complain, complain to the hardware manufacturers, who make devices where bit $foo means $bar in one hardware revision, and $baz in the next, and don't give us sufficient documentation to sort out the mess. That's not terribly productive. Life is what it is. We

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:46 -0500, Mark Canter wrote: The same issue exists on a T42p (ICH4). Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose? The thought of having to disable the headphone jack and reenable it each time is trivial considering you can go with the fact that sound did not require

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Lee Revell
This is the place to report any more information on this issue: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=852 Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Nish Aravamudan
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 14:06:38 -0500 (EST), Mark Canter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct, but if you want to use your headphones you would have to enable headphones on your mixer, which would negate your speaker output through your docking station's output. If you want to use the docking

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Mark Canter
To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense' (as kde labels it). The issue is in the way the 8x0 addresses the docking station/port replicator's audio output jack. The mentioned quick fix does not

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Pierre Ossman
Andrew Morton wrote: Mark Canter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To close this issue out of the LKML and alsa-devel, a bug report has been written. It appears to be an issue with the 'headphone jack sense' (as kde labels it). The issue is in the way the 8x0 addresses the docking station/port

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: intel 8x0 went silent in 2.6.11

2005-03-03 Thread Mark Canter
Yes, flipping back to the 2.6.10 kernel resolves the sound issue through the docking station so that everything runs without incident. Though I'd like to see/assist in resolving the issue for future releases :). On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Andrew Morton wrote: Mark Canter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To