On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:37:37 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
> ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-)
No, I don't intend to carry on this discussion,
but I appreciate the smiley.
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Dumping even more crap on lkml is not the answer.
that "crap" that i'd like to see dumped upon lkml would be netdev
traffic mainly - most of the other kernel development lists (and i'm
subscribed to many of them) are low-traffic. netdev is the main
* James Bottomley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
> >
> > > In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
> > > some of those bugs
* David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
>
> > In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
> > some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all
> > on lkml we'd
* Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> > countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed
> > it.
>
> I didn't miss your claim.
ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-)
Ingo
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
> countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed it.
I didn't miss your claim.
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* Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> >
> > * Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
> > > > for all of us. I have one main complaint about
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
>
> > In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
> > some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all
> >
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:24:48PM +, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > > Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel
> > > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275
> > > Kernel: 2.6.23
> > > This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM
> >
> > No response from developers
>
>
From: Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
> In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
> some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all
> on lkml we'd all be aware of it.
That's a rediculious argument.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
> Not if you said their regression causing patches will get reverted unless it
> can be fixed for release.
Actually, I'm pretty happy reverting patches that cause regressions even
if it *can* be "fixed for release". If there isn't a fix available
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:07:06AM -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 +
>
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
> > > I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > By doing so you've just said
Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 November 2007 00:27, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>> You missed the following in my email:
>> "we slowly scare them away due to the many bug reports without any
>> reaction."
>>
>> The problem is that bug reports take time. If you go away from easy
>> things like
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:38:20AM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > so please stop this "too busy and too noisy" nonsense already. It was
> > nonsense 10 years ago and it's nonsense today. In 10 years the kernel
> > grew from a 1 million
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
> > > for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
> > > separate netdev list is a bad idea -
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote:
Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros
(gentoo->ubuntu)
and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's
>>> not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you
>>> do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the
>>> linux-2.6
* Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's
>> not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you
>> do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the
>> linux-2.6 directory.
> ..
>
> Ah, I
FWIW, I see the same problem with another HP notebook, DV4378EA with
radeon X700 video card. It does not happen frequently but I can say
that since I disabled the tickless feature I can't reproduce the
problem anymore.
On Nov 14, 2007 2:24 PM, Pavel Machek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > >
* Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
> > for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
> > separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking regressions should
> > be discussed and fixed on lkml, like
Hi!
> > Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel
> > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275
> > Kernel: 2.6.23
> > This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM
>
> No response from developers
Maybe I'm optimistic, but I expected Ingo/Thomas to look after nohz
problems.
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:30 +0100,
Rene Herman wrote:
>
> On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>
> > At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
> > David Miller wrote:
> >> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
> >>
> >>> The fact that it farts
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>> Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their
>> git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then.
>>
>> And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything
>> complex, it mostly
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their
> git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then.
>
> And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything
> complex, it mostly moves code around, removes
On 14-11-07 13:01, David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the
following over the past 2 days.
Nah, in
On 14-11-07 12:56, David Miller wrote:
From: Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list,
it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators
have been doing our best to moderate
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > HID
> >
> > Kernel NULL pointer dereference at :usbhid:hiddev_ioctl+0x2f/0xabc
> > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9216
> > Kernel: 2.6.23.1
> > Looks like this is a
On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
See? I got another one and I have received
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
David Miller wrote:
>
> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
>
> > The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
>
> See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:57:06 +0100
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your mail to 'Alsa-devel' with the subject
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The reason it is being held:
Too many recipients to the messag
From: Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list,
> it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators
> have been doing our best to moderate quickly (I tend to stay logged in to
On 14-11-07 11:07, David Miller wrote:
Added Jaroslav and Takashi to the already extensive CC
From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on
vger? That's also subscribers-only.
The operative term is "alternative" rather than
From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 +
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
> > I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> By doing so you've just said (implicitly) that you can not tolerate
> someone having a different opinion from your
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
> From: Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:32:01 -0800
>
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:27:00PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Let me just say - I'm astonished at how little spam gets though the vger
> lists. Considering how many
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 06:27:00PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Let me just say - I'm astonished at how little spam gets though the vger
lists. Considering how many times those
From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 +
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By doing so you've just said (implicitly) that you can not tolerate
someone having a different opinion from your own.
I
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
From: Andrew Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:32:01 -0800
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
On 14-11-07 11:07, David Miller wrote:
Added Jaroslav and Takashi to the already extensive CC
From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on
vger? That's also subscribers-only.
The operative term is alternative rather than
From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list,
it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators
have been doing our best to moderate quickly (I tend to stay logged in to
]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:57:06 +0100
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Your mail to 'Alsa-devel' with the subject
Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The reason it is being held:
Too many recipients to the message
Either
On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
See? I got another one and I have received at
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
HID
Kernel NULL pointer dereference at :usbhid:hiddev_ioctl+0x2f/0xabc
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9216
Kernel: 2.6.23.1
Looks like this is a regression
No
On 14-11-07 12:56, David Miller wrote:
From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list,
it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators
have been doing our best to moderate
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the
following over
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their
git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then.
And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything
complex, it mostly moves code around, removes
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their
git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then.
And mind you, the patch is not trying to do anything
complex, it mostly moves code
On 14-11-07 13:01, David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread.
See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the
following over the past 2 days.
Nah, in
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:30 +0100,
Rene Herman wrote:
On 14-11-07 09:25, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:31 -0800 (PST),
David Miller wrote:
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST)
The fact that it farts at me every time I
Hi!
Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275
Kernel: 2.6.23
This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM
No response from developers
Maybe I'm optimistic, but I expected Ingo/Thomas to look after nohz
problems. nohz=off
FWIW, I see the same problem with another HP notebook, DV4378EA with
radeon X700 video card. It does not happen frequently but I can say
that since I disabled the tickless feature I can't reproduce the
problem anymore.
On Nov 14, 2007 2:24 PM, Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
* Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's
not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you
do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the
linux-2.6 directory.
..
Ah, I wondered why
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking regressions should
be discussed and fixed on lkml, like most other
Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Mark Lord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're assuming that everything in linux-2.6 was downloaded; that's
not true. Everything in linux-2.6/.git was downloaded; but then you
do a checkout which happens to approximately double the size of the
linux-2.6 directory.
..
Adrian Bunk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote:
Btw, I used to test every -mm kernel. But since I've switched distros
(gentoo-ubuntu)
and I have less time, I feel it's harder to test -rc
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
separate netdev list is a bad idea - networking
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:38:20AM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
so please stop this too busy and too noisy nonsense already. It was
nonsense 10 years ago and it's nonsense today. In 10 years the kernel
grew from a 1 million lines
Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 00:27, Adrian Bunk wrote:
You missed the following in my email:
we slowly scare them away due to the many bug reports without any
reaction.
The problem is that bug reports take time. If you go away from easy
things like compile errors
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 02:07:06AM -0800, David Miller wrote:
From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:07 +
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:55:51PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
By doing so you've just said (implicitly) that you can
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Nick Piggin wrote:
Not if you said their regression causing patches will get reverted unless it
can be fixed for release.
Actually, I'm pretty happy reverting patches that cause regressions even
if it *can* be fixed for release. If there isn't a fix available within
a
From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all
on lkml we'd all be aware of it.
That's a rediculious argument.
One
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:24:48PM +, Pavel Machek wrote:
Hi!
Suspend to RAM resume hangs on a tickless (NO_HZ) kernel
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9275
Kernel: 2.6.23
This is HP notebook nc6320 T2400 945GM
No response from developers
Maybe I'm optimistic,
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote:
From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all
on lkml we'd
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(and this is in no way directed at the networking folks - it holds
for all of us. I have one main complaint about networking: the
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed it.
I didn't miss your claim.
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* Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:16:39 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
countered by the underlined sentences above, just in case you missed
it.
I didn't miss your claim.
ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-)
Ingo
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* David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
some of those bugs were already discussed and resolved. Had it been all
on lkml we'd all be aware
* James Bottomley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 11:56 -0800, David Miller wrote:
From: Ingo Molnar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100
In fact this thread is the very example: David points out that on netdev
some of those bugs were already
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
Dumping even more crap on lkml is not the answer.
that crap that i'd like to see dumped upon lkml would be netdev
traffic mainly - most of the other kernel development lists (and i'm
subscribed to many of them) are low-traffic. netdev is the main reason
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:37:37 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
ok, then you conceded it by not replying to it? good ;-)
No, I don't intend to carry on this discussion,
but I appreciate the smiley.
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hi Matthew,
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 06:35, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their
git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply since then.
And
Denys Vlasenko wrote:
hi Matthew,
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 06:35, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
Matthew Wilcox wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:20AM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Finally they replied and asked to rediff it against their
git tree. I did that and sent patches back. No reply
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 11:54:16AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
Actually, I'm pretty happy reverting patches that cause regressions even
if it *can* be fixed for release. If there isn't a fix available within
a day or two, it should get reverted.
...
Also, please notice the latter part of
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Theodore Tso wrote:
There are two parts to this. One is a Ubuntu development kernel which
we can give to large numbers of people to expand our testing pool.
But if we don't do a better job of responding to bug reports that
would be generated by expanded testing this
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Heikki Orsila wrote:
See
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9321
for more information.
That's a pretty unhelpful thing. It doesn't describe the breakage at all,
so there is hardly much more info.
You've also apparently made all the attachements
On Wednesday November 14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:38:20AM -0800, Randy Dunlap wrote:
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:47 +0100 Ingo Molnar wrote:
so please stop this too busy and too noisy nonsense already. It was
nonsense 10 years ago and it's nonsense today. In 10
On Tuesday November 13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 07:08, Mark Lord wrote:
Ingo Molnar wrote:
..
This is all QA-101 that _cannot be argued against on a rational basis_,
it's just that these sorts of things have been largely ignored for
years, in favor of
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:24PM +0100, Rene Herman wrote:
On 14-11-07 11:07, David Miller wrote:
Added Jaroslav and Takashi to the already extensive CC
From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on
vger? That's also
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote:
And congratulations to him for that. We almost entirely dropped 2.6.16,
but there's a regression some time since then that makes large MMAPed
files a major pain (specifically the dcc database clean takes about 5
minutes on 2.6.16 and about 12
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:56:01PM +0100, Christian Kujau wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Andrew Morton wrote:
There are a number of process things we _could_ do. Like
- have bugfix-only kernel releases
Adrian Bunk does (did?) this with 2.6.16.x, although it always seemed to me
like an
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 08:24:53PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote:
And congratulations to him for that. We almost entirely dropped 2.6.16,
but there's a regression some time since then that makes large MMAPed
files a major pain (specifically
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Bron Gondwana wrote:
So we've already been running those settings for a while. They didn't
help.
Ok, so something else is up. If the mmap file is 2G, and you have 6G of
RAM, you shouldn't be hitting the dirty limits with those setups.
Of course, it may still be that
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Linus Torvalds wrote:
So even at 100% dirty limits, it won't let you dirty more than 1GB on the
default 32-bit setup.
Side note: all of these are obviously still just heuristics. If you really
*do* run on a 32-bit kernel, and you want to have the pain, I'm sure you
On 15-11-07 05:16, Bron Gondwana wrote:
Totally unrelated - I sent something to the kolab mailing list a couple
[ ... ]
I'm sure if I had something that I considered worth informing the ALSA
project of, I'd be wary of spending the same effort writing a good post
knowing it may be dropped in
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 00:27, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> You missed the following in my email:
> "we slowly scare them away due to the many bug reports without any
> reaction."
>
> The problem is that bug reports take time. If you go away from easy
> things like compile errors then even things
On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:39:45PM -0700, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 November 2007 10:56, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:13:56PM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:52:32PM +0100, Benoit Boissinot wrote:
> > > > Btw, I used to test every -mm
From: Sam Ravnborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:56:06 +0100
> >
> > > If so, MANITAINERS claims that it is subscribers-only. That would cause
> > > some bug reporters to give up and go away.
> >
> > Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
> >
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:56:06AM +0100, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> >
> > > If so, MANITAINERS claims that it is subscribers-only. That would cause
> > > some bug reporters to give up and go away.
> >
> > Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
> > non-subscribers
>
> > If so, MANITAINERS claims that it is subscribers-only. That would cause
> > some bug reporters to give up and go away.
>
> Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
> non-subscribers only mailing list. Period. Not negotiable, so don't even
> try to change
From: "Martin Bligh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:46:08 -0800
> This is a technical issue with vger.kernel.org mailing lists that I've tried
> addressing before - maybe davem can help fix it?
I think the problem is that certain mail headers show up multiple
times and this makes
rant on :) ... These aren't directed specifically at Andrew, but
everyone who merges patches or is involved in the release process.
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 08:04, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:00:30 +0100 (CET) Christian Kujau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Nov
From: Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:27:00 -0800
> Let me just say - I'm astonished at how little spam gets though the vger
> lists. Considering how many times those email addresses must have been
> added to spam databases.
>
> It must be a lot of work, and whoever
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've created [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Let me just say - I'm astonished at how little spam gets though the vger
lists. Considering how many times those email addresses must have been
added to spam databases.
It must be
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:11:36 -0800 Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:52:17 -0500
> Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 11/13/2007 04:12 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
> > >> Bug fixing is not about finding someone to blame, it's about getting the
> > >> bug
From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:40:33 +
> ARM ep93xx defconfig has been broken since 2.6.23-git1 due to:
>
> drivers/net/arm/ep93xx_eth.c:420: error: implicit declaration of function
> '__netif_rx_schedule_prep'
>
> caused by: [NET]: Make NAPI polling
From: Andrew Morton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:32:01 -0800
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:18:01 + Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Find some other mailing list; I'm not hosting *nor* am I willing to run a
> > non-subscribers only mailing list. Period. Not
Please stop cross-posting this thread at least to linux-pcmcia
until your post is relevant to PCMCIA.
Sorry for being a bore. (Not that I don't love reading LKML
discussions, but I found that it took too much time, and now
they're over at linux-pcmcia too! :)
Thank you in advance.
//Peter
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:52:17 -0500
Chuck Ebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/13/2007 04:12 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
> >> Bug fixing is not about finding someone to blame, it's about getting the
> >> bug fixed.
> >
> > Partly - its also about understanding why the bug occurred and making it
> >
From: Mark Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:18:43 -0500
> Mind you, no arguing that this is effective when that poor bloke has
> a day free to download the git-tree and build/reboot a dozen times.
Like the internet, this time spent is beneficial because it's
pushing the work
On 11/13/2007 04:12 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> Bug fixing is not about finding someone to blame, it's about getting the
>> bug fixed.
>
> Partly - its also about understanding why the bug occurred and making it
> not happen again.
Very few people think about that part.
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