Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-20 Thread Michael Tirado
James, and our other friends, On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:59 PM James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity More than one ambiguity. This whole file needs to go. >* Trolling, Who decides what is trolling, and what is a technique for raising awareness or sparking

Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-20 Thread Michael Tirado
James, and our other friends, On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 2:59 PM James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity More than one ambiguity. This whole file needs to go. >* Trolling, Who decides what is trolling, and what is a technique for raising awareness or sparking

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/18/18 12:57, James Bottomley wrote: > On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 19:49 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Frank Rowand >>> >>> On 10/18/18 07:56, James Bottomley wrote: On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/17/18 12:08, James

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/18/18 12:57, James Bottomley wrote: > On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 19:49 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Frank Rowand >>> >>> On 10/18/18 07:56, James Bottomley wrote: On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/17/18 12:08, James

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 19:49 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Frank Rowand > > > > On 10/18/18 07:56, James Bottomley wrote: > > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > > > > On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > > [...] > >

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread James Bottomley
On Thu, 2018-10-18 at 19:49 +, tim.b...@sony.com wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Frank Rowand > > > > On 10/18/18 07:56, James Bottomley wrote: > > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > > > > On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > > [...] > >

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: Frank Rowand > > On 10/18/18 07:56, James Bottomley wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > >> On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > > [...] > Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment vs what > I

RE: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Tim.Bird
> -Original Message- > From: Frank Rowand > > On 10/18/18 07:56, James Bottomley wrote: > > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > >> On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > > [...] > Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment vs what > I

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/18/18 07:56, James Bottomley wrote: > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >> On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > [...] Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment vs what I intended to communicate, it seems to me that you are focused on

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/18/18 07:56, James Bottomley wrote: > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >> On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > [...] Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment vs what I intended to communicate, it seems to me that you are focused on

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread James Bottomley
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: [...] > > > Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment vs what > > > I intended to communicate, it seems to me that you are focused on > > > the "where allowed" and I am focused on the

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-18 Thread James Bottomley
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 12:53 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: [...] > > > Trying to understand how you are understanding my comment vs what > > > I intended to communicate, it seems to me that you are focused on > > > the "where allowed" and I am focused on the

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:49 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >> On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: >>> On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > [...] Repeating my comment on version 1: My understanding of the concern

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/17/18 12:08, James Bottomley wrote: > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:49 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >> On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: >>> On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > [...] Repeating my comment on version 1: My understanding of the concern

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Alexandre Belloni
Hello, On 17/10/2018 11:49:06-0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > Permission vs exclusion is orthogonal to my comments. > > "building linux" is not the patch wording. "ordinarily collected by the > project" is a much broader universe. > > A very simplistic definition of public _could_ be: > > -

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Alexandre Belloni
Hello, On 17/10/2018 11:49:06-0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > Permission vs exclusion is orthogonal to my comments. > > "building linux" is not the patch wording. "ordinarily collected by the > project" is a much broader universe. > > A very simplistic definition of public _could_ be: > > -

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread James Bottomley
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:49 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: [...] > > > Repeating my comment on version 1: > > > > > > My understanding of the concern behind this change is that we > > > should be

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread James Bottomley
On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 11:49 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: [...] > > > Repeating my comment on version 1: > > > > > > My understanding of the concern behind this change is that we > > > should be

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 10/17/18 11:49 AM, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: >> On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >>> On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing private

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Randy Dunlap
On 10/17/18 11:49 AM, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: >> On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >>> On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing private

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >> On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: >>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers >>> publishing >>> private information such as email addresses unacceptable >>>

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-17 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/16/18 19:41, James Bottomley wrote: > On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: >> On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: >>> The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers >>> publishing >>> private information such as email addresses unacceptable >>>

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread James Bottomley
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > publishing > > private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > behaviour. Since > > the Linux kernel collects

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread James Bottomley
On Tue, 2018-10-16 at 19:10 -0700, Frank Rowand wrote: > On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: > > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers > > publishing > > private information such as email addresses unacceptable > > behaviour. Since > > the Linux kernel collects

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch > process, add an

Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread Frank Rowand
On 10/16/18 07:58, James Bottomley wrote: > The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing > private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since > the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch > process, add an

[PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread James Bottomley
The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily

[PATCH v3 1/3] code-of-conduct: Fix the ambiguity about collecting email addresses

2018-10-16 Thread James Bottomley
The current code of conduct has an ambiguity in the it considers publishing private information such as email addresses unacceptable behaviour. Since the Linux kernel collects and publishes email addresses as part of the patch process, add an exception clause for email addresses ordinarily