Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-11-07 14:00, Jörn Engel wrote: And even without mails being held hostage for weeks, every single moderation mail is annoying. Like the one I'm sure to receive after sending this out. Certainly. Upto this thread I wasn't actually aware the list was doing that. While it might be

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:17:27 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 06:59:34AM +0100, Rene Herman wrote: > > Totally unrelated indeed so why are spouting crap? If the kohab list has a > > problem take it up with them but keep ALSA out of it. alsa-devel has only > > ever

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 06:59:34AM +0100, Rene Herman wrote: > Totally unrelated indeed so why are spouting crap? If the kohab list has a > problem take it up with them but keep ALSA out of it. alsa-devel has only > ever moderated out spam -- nothing else. That is incorrect. Hopefully it is

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Jörn Engel
On Thu, 15 November 2007 13:26:51 +0100, Rene Herman wrote: > > Can you please just shelve this crap? You have a way of knowing that "ALSA > will accept you" and that is knowing or assuming that the ALSA project > doesn't consist of drooling retards. Well, my experience with moderation has

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-11-07 13:02, Bron Gondwana wrote: I get the same information from both project websites: "moderated for non-members, public archives" - no way of knowing that ALSA will accept me informing them of something they would be interested without committing to reading or bit-bucketing their

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 06:59:34AM +0100, Rene Herman wrote: > On 15-11-07 05:16, Bron Gondwana wrote: > >> Totally unrelated - I sent something to the kolab mailing list a couple > > [ ... ] > >> I'm sure if I had something that I considered worth informing the ALSA >> project of, I'd be wary of

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 06:59:34AM +0100, Rene Herman wrote: On 15-11-07 05:16, Bron Gondwana wrote: Totally unrelated - I sent something to the kolab mailing list a couple [ ... ] I'm sure if I had something that I considered worth informing the ALSA project of, I'd be wary of spending

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-11-07 13:02, Bron Gondwana wrote: I get the same information from both project websites: moderated for non-members, public archives - no way of knowing that ALSA will accept me informing them of something they would be interested without committing to reading or bit-bucketing their list.

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Jörn Engel
On Thu, 15 November 2007 13:26:51 +0100, Rene Herman wrote: Can you please just shelve this crap? You have a way of knowing that ALSA will accept you and that is knowing or assuming that the ALSA project doesn't consist of drooling retards. Well, my experience with moderation has been that

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Olivier Galibert
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 06:59:34AM +0100, Rene Herman wrote: Totally unrelated indeed so why are spouting crap? If the kohab list has a problem take it up with them but keep ALSA out of it. alsa-devel has only ever moderated out spam -- nothing else. That is incorrect. Hopefully it is the

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:17:27 +0100, Olivier Galibert wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 06:59:34AM +0100, Rene Herman wrote: Totally unrelated indeed so why are spouting crap? If the kohab list has a problem take it up with them but keep ALSA out of it. alsa-devel has only ever moderated

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-11-07 14:00, Jörn Engel wrote: And even without mails being held hostage for weeks, every single moderation mail is annoying. Like the one I'm sure to receive after sending this out. Certainly. Upto this thread I wasn't actually aware the list was doing that. While it might be

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-11-07 05:16, Bron Gondwana wrote: Totally unrelated - I sent something to the kolab mailing list a couple [ ... ] I'm sure if I had something that I considered worth informing the ALSA project of, I'd be wary of spending the same effort writing a good post knowing it may be dropped in

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:24PM +0100, Rene Herman wrote: > On 14-11-07 11:07, David Miller wrote: > > Added Jaroslav and Takashi to the already extensive CC > >> From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on >>> vger?

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-11-07 13:01, David Miller wrote: From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST) The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread. See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the following over the past 2 days. Nah, in

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-11-07 12:56, David Miller wrote: From: Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list, it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators have been doing our best to moderate

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread David Miller
PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:57:06 +0100 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your mail to 'Alsa-devel' with the subject Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Too many recipients to the messag

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread David Miller
From: Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list, > it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators > have been doing our best to moderate quickly (I tend to stay logged in to

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-11-07 11:07, David Miller wrote: Added Jaroslav and Takashi to the already extensive CC From: Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on vger? That's also subscribers-only. The operative term is "alternative" rather than

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-11-07 11:07, David Miller wrote: Added Jaroslav and Takashi to the already extensive CC From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on vger? That's also subscribers-only. The operative term is alternative rather than

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread David Miller
From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list, it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators have been doing our best to moderate quickly (I tend to stay logged in to

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread David Miller
] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:57:06 +0100 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your mail to 'Alsa-devel' with the subject Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Too many recipients to the message Either

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-11-07 12:56, David Miller wrote: From: Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscriber-only. Same as that arm list, it's _moderated_ for non-subscribers and given that I and other moderators have been doing our best to moderate

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 14-11-07 13:01, David Miller wrote: From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:56:57 -0800 (PST) The fact that it farts at me every time I post to this thread. See? I got another one and I have received at least 10 of the following over the past 2 days. Nah, in

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:46:24PM +0100, Rene Herman wrote: On 14-11-07 11:07, David Miller wrote: Added Jaroslav and Takashi to the already extensive CC From: Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, when are you creating a replacement alsa-devel mailing list on vger? That's also

Re: [alsa-devel] [BUG] New Kernel Bugs

2007-11-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-11-07 05:16, Bron Gondwana wrote: Totally unrelated - I sent something to the kolab mailing list a couple [ ... ] I'm sure if I had something that I considered worth informing the ALSA project of, I'd be wary of spending the same effort writing a good post knowing it may be dropped in