Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-05 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 05:43:13PM +, simo wrote: > > Actually I disagree. I think Christoph is correct. These > > are two independent protocols and should be in two different > > modules. > > They are independent the same way NFS v4 is independent from NFS v3 and > v2. Independent but related

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-04 Thread Steve French
On 5/4/07, Jeremy Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:46:05AM -0500, Gerald Carter wrote: > Long term I agree that CIFS and SMB2 should be in the same .ko Actually I disagree. I think Christoph is correct. These are two independent protocols and should be in two differe

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-04 Thread simo
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 10:12 -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote: > Actually I disagree. I think Christoph is correct. These > are two independent protocols and should be in two different > modules. They are independent the same way NFS v4 is independent from NFS v3 and v2. Independent but related, and mo

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-04 Thread Jeremy Allison
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:46:05AM -0500, Gerald Carter wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Simo, > > > I guess DFS referrals can work cross protocol, so if you are redirected > > from a longhorn server to a windoes 2000 or a samba server you want to > > be able to follow

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 10:35:41AM -0500, Steve French wrote: > If SMB2 protocol support were coded as a distinct module, the smb2.ko > would need to load cifs.ko to complete session setup in many cases > (presumably when mounting to NetApp, EMC, most older Windows servers > and some Samba servers

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread Steve French
To clarify: 1) SMB2 is negotiated like a new dialect (of SMB/CIFS). The new dialects is sent in the same SMB negotiate protocol request that has been used for years. The protocol header format changes to that of SMB2 (if accepted by the server) on all subsequent requests. 2) If the server does

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread Gerald Carter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simo, > I guess DFS referrals can work cross protocol, so if you are redirected > from a longhorn server to a windoes 2000 or a samba server you want to > be able to follow the DFS referral and not return an error. > To do that you need to have either

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread Chuck Ebbert
Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > Can we please stop the bullshitting now? And can you please get a realname > before playing smart ass on filesystem developers lists? Simo's full name is in his .sig - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread simo
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 09:46 -0500, Gerald Carter wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Simo, > > > I guess DFS referrals can work cross protocol, so if you are redirected > > from a longhorn server to a windoes 2000 or a samba server you want to > > be able to follow the DF

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread simo
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 15:43 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 10:36:53AM -0400, simo wrote: > > I guess DFS referrals can work cross protocol, so if you are redirected > > from a longhorn server to a windoes 2000 or a samba server you want to > > be able to follow the DFS re

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 10:36:53AM -0400, simo wrote: > I guess DFS referrals can work cross protocol, so if you are redirected > from a longhorn server to a windoes 2000 or a samba server you want to > be able to follow the DFS referral and not return an error. > To do that you need to have either

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread simo
On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 15:17 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:21:29AM -0400, simo wrote: > > Separate modules would mean the user have to know which protocol to > > choose each time. And this make little sense. > > Of course it makes a lot of sense. We don't have anyfs.

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 09:21:29AM -0400, simo wrote: > Separate modules would mean the user have to know which protocol to > choose each time. And this make little sense. Of course it makes a lot of sense. We don't have anyfs.ko either because some ubuntu users are too braindead to know what's o

Re: [linux-cifs-client] Re: SMB2 file system - should it be a distinct module

2007-05-03 Thread simo
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 10:06 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 05:52:43PM -0500, Steve French wrote: > > Any idea which would be preferred (smb2 support as part of cifs, or as > > a distinct smb2.ko module)? > > Separate module please. If we grow enough common code as some