Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Heinz J. Mauelshagen wrote: > Linux LVM is a Sistina GPL project and there's no danger at all > that we want to change its GPL nature! I think the general sentiment is that LVM is a Linux project, currently being managed by Sistina. Also, since you have merged patches from other you

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Patrick Caulfield
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:09:32PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > AJ Lewis wrote: > > Ok, the issue here is that we're trying to get a release out and so anything > > that majorly changes the code is getting shunted aside for the moment. It > > would be stupid to just add everything that comes in

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Jeff Garzik
Luca Berra wrote: > we have some serous problems here. [...] > a better lvm (still buggy according to many kernel hackers, but better still), > which does not get into the kernel for communication reasons. (Alan can you help? > there is a lot of stuff that goes in -ac before going to mainstream)

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Luca Berra
Fuck! I hate these things early in the morning. what gets me extremely pissed in the whole business is that i don't believe that splitting the mailing list is the solution to LVM problems. Escpecially since we have a number of lusers of lwm at the time being. I believe sistina is mostly at

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Luca Berra
Fuck! I hate these things early in the morning. what gets me extremely pissed in the whole business is that i don't believe that splitting the mailing list is the solution to LVM problems. Escpecially since we have a number of lusers of lwm at the time being. I believe sistina is mostly at

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Jeff Garzik
Luca Berra wrote: we have some serous problems here. [...] a better lvm (still buggy according to many kernel hackers, but better still), which does not get into the kernel for communication reasons. (Alan can you help? there is a lot of stuff that goes in -ac before going to mainstream) I

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Patrick Caulfield
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:09:32PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: AJ Lewis wrote: Ok, the issue here is that we're trying to get a release out and so anything that majorly changes the code is getting shunted aside for the moment. It would be stupid to just add everything that comes in on the

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Heinz J. Mauelshagen wrote: Linux LVM is a Sistina GPL project and there's no danger at all that we want to change its GPL nature! I think the general sentiment is that LVM is a Linux project, currently being managed by Sistina. Also, since you have merged patches from other you

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Paul Jakma
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andreas Dilger wrote: > went in, but not other stuff. Also, it doesn't appear that any of the > LVM changes are making it into the stock kernel, which is basically a > recepie for disaster. agreed... after the problematic inclusion of 0.9 into the kernel i asked on sistina

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Andreas Dilger
AJ writes: > Ok, the issue here is that we're trying to get a release out and so anything > that majorly changes the code is getting shunted aside for the moment. Actually, the whole idea of "trying to get a release out" is part of the problem. If patches were included into CVS and sent sent to

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Miles Lane
Alan Cox wrote: >>As far as getting patches into the stock kernel, we've been sending patches >>to Linus for over a month now, and none of them have made it in. Maybe >>someone has some pointers on how we get our code past his filters. >> > > Has it occured to you that some of this might be

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Kurt Garloff
Hi AJ, On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:40:15PM -0500, AJ Lewis wrote: > The list is now open. I've talked to our admin and he's opening it up. > Send me e-mail if it doesn't work, 'cause something else is broken. to me it looks like your reactions are too late. I suggest you Sistina people accept

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread AJ Lewis
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:09:32PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > AJ Lewis wrote: > > Ok, the issue here is that we're trying to get a release out and so anything > > that majorly changes the code is getting shunted aside for the moment. It > > would be stupid to just add everything that comes in

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
AJ Lewis wrote: > Ok, the issue here is that we're trying to get a release out and so anything > that majorly changes the code is getting shunted aside for the moment. It > would be stupid to just add everything that comes in on the ML without > review. Linus does the exact same thing. I've

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Alan Cox
> As far as getting patches into the stock kernel, we've been sending patches > to Linus for over a month now, and none of them have made it in. Maybe > someone has some pointers on how we get our code past his filters. Has it occured to you that some of this might be because the code does

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:20PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote: > I don't think that the subscription is necessarily the only issue. I'm > subscribed to all of the LVM mailing lists, and still a lot of what I > submit (legitimate bug fixes, and not just features/code cleanup) does > not get

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Jens Axboe
On Thu, Apr 19 2001, AJ Lewis wrote: > As far as getting patches into the stock kernel, we've been sending patches > to Linus for over a month now, and none of them have made it in. Maybe > someone has some pointers on how we get our code past his filters. The diff between 2.4.4-pre LVM and

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Rik van Riel
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andreas Dilger wrote: > I don't think that the subscription is necessarily the only > issue. I'm subscribed to all of the LVM mailing lists, and > still a lot of what I submit (legitimate bug fixes, and not just > features/code cleanup) does not get added to CVS. Yes, the

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread AJ Lewis
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:20PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote: > I don't think that the subscription is necessarily the only issue. I'm > subscribed to all of the LVM mailing lists, and still a lot of what I > submit (legitimate bug fixes, and not just features/code cleanup) does > not get

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Alan Cox
> Not to be negative, but isn't Alan the pot calling the kettle black? You > use ORBS to block email as well, with no hope of reprieve. AFAIK, the I dont stop other people discussing the kernel. Its very very different. > linux-lvm list has a moderator which _should_ forward legitimate emails

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Alan Cox
> All it would have taken was a request and a good reason for doing so, but > I guess this is one way to do it. Just don't complain about spam. :) I think you'll find several folks who run linux-kernel and other lists like the linux.nl mailhub more than happy to help there Alan - To

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Andreas Dilger
AJ Lewis writes: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:02:50PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > Well their approach to patches that fix bugs is to reject emails. They've > > done that to stuff I've reported any many others. So there is a problem. > > And it's kind of hard to discuss a problem when you are being

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread AJ Lewis
The list is now open. I've talked to our admin and he's opening it up. Send me e-mail if it doesn't work, 'cause something else is broken. All it would have taken was a request and a good reason for doing so, but I guess this is one way to do it. Just don't complain about spam. :) Regards,

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread AJ Lewis
The list is now open. I've talked to our admin and he's opening it up. Send me e-mail if it doesn't work, 'cause something else is broken. All it would have taken was a request and a good reason for doing so, but I guess this is one way to do it. Just don't complain about spam. :) Regards,

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Andreas Dilger
AJ Lewis writes: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:02:50PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: Well their approach to patches that fix bugs is to reject emails. They've done that to stuff I've reported any many others. So there is a problem. And it's kind of hard to discuss a problem when you are being

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Alan Cox
All it would have taken was a request and a good reason for doing so, but I guess this is one way to do it. Just don't complain about spam. :) I think you'll find several folks who run linux-kernel and other lists like the linux.nl mailhub more than happy to help there Alan - To

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Alan Cox
Not to be negative, but isn't Alan the pot calling the kettle black? You use ORBS to block email as well, with no hope of reprieve. AFAIK, the I dont stop other people discussing the kernel. Its very very different. linux-lvm list has a moderator which _should_ forward legitimate emails

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread AJ Lewis
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:20PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote: I don't think that the subscription is necessarily the only issue. I'm subscribed to all of the LVM mailing lists, and still a lot of what I submit (legitimate bug fixes, and not just features/code cleanup) does not get added to

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Rik van Riel
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andreas Dilger wrote: I don't think that the subscription is necessarily the only issue. I'm subscribed to all of the LVM mailing lists, and still a lot of what I submit (legitimate bug fixes, and not just features/code cleanup) does not get added to CVS. Yes, the

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 01:45:20PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote: I don't think that the subscription is necessarily the only issue. I'm subscribed to all of the LVM mailing lists, and still a lot of what I submit (legitimate bug fixes, and not just features/code cleanup) does not get added to

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Jens Axboe
On Thu, Apr 19 2001, AJ Lewis wrote: As far as getting patches into the stock kernel, we've been sending patches to Linus for over a month now, and none of them have made it in. Maybe someone has some pointers on how we get our code past his filters. The diff between 2.4.4-pre LVM and your

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Alan Cox
As far as getting patches into the stock kernel, we've been sending patches to Linus for over a month now, and none of them have made it in. Maybe someone has some pointers on how we get our code past his filters. Has it occured to you that some of this might be because the code does stuff

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Jeff Garzik
AJ Lewis wrote: Ok, the issue here is that we're trying to get a release out and so anything that majorly changes the code is getting shunted aside for the moment. It would be stupid to just add everything that comes in on the ML without review. Linus does the exact same thing. I've said

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread AJ Lewis
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:09:32PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: AJ Lewis wrote: Ok, the issue here is that we're trying to get a release out and so anything that majorly changes the code is getting shunted aside for the moment. It would be stupid to just add everything that comes in on the

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Kurt Garloff
Hi AJ, On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:40:15PM -0500, AJ Lewis wrote: The list is now open. I've talked to our admin and he's opening it up. Send me e-mail if it doesn't work, 'cause something else is broken. to me it looks like your reactions are too late. I suggest you Sistina people accept

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Miles Lane
Alan Cox wrote: As far as getting patches into the stock kernel, we've been sending patches to Linus for over a month now, and none of them have made it in. Maybe someone has some pointers on how we get our code past his filters. Has it occured to you that some of this might be because the

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Andreas Dilger
AJ writes: Ok, the issue here is that we're trying to get a release out and so anything that majorly changes the code is getting shunted aside for the moment. Actually, the whole idea of "trying to get a release out" is part of the problem. If patches were included into CVS and sent sent to

Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [repost] Announce: Linux-OpenLVM mailing list

2001-04-19 Thread Paul Jakma
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andreas Dilger wrote: went in, but not other stuff. Also, it doesn't appear that any of the LVM changes are making it into the stock kernel, which is basically a recepie for disaster. agreed... after the problematic inclusion of 0.9 into the kernel i asked on sistina