Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-12-14 Thread Andreas Leitgeb
Just a Thank you & EOThread message :-) On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 09:24:15PM +0900, Tejun Heo wrote: > Dunno about IDE layer. It has been done that way for long time and not > sure whether adding such option will happen, but for libata, hpa > handling is still not implemented ... I'm now (since

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-28 Thread Tejun Heo
Andreas Leitgeb wrote: [--snip--] This theory is backed by my observation of a nearly-broken disk, that the quantity "3)" gradually goes down one step after some time. The first such step was, when I noticed the problem about half a year ago, and just recently it stepped down by another one. Ok

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Leitgeb
It seems I was too eagerly deleting context from my mails. This made people misunderstand my questions or answer details that have been clarified in previous mails already. I did learn quite a lot already about harddisks during this thread. "Thank you" to Alan. In particular, about the quantities

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-28 Thread Tejun Heo
Andreas Leitgeb wrote: On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 07:59:40PM +, Alan wrote: size remains still constant, and the exceeding damaged sectors are auto-"hidden" by the drive by means of HPA. Still incorrect? Still incorrect. HPA has nothing to do with damaged sectors. The damaged sectors are repl

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-28 Thread Andreas Leitgeb
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 07:59:40PM +, Alan wrote: > > size remains still constant, and the exceeding damaged sectors are > > auto-"hidden" by the drive by means of HPA. > > Still incorrect? > Still incorrect. HPA has nothing to do with damaged sectors. The damaged > sectors are replaced from a

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-27 Thread Alan
> size remains still constant, and the exceeding damaged sectors are > auto-"hidden" by the drive by means of HPA. > > Still incorrect? Still incorrect. HPA has nothing to do with damaged sectors. The damaged sectors are replaced from a pool of sectors that are reserved for this purpose. Alan

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-27 Thread Andreas Leitgeb
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 06:10:33PM +, Alan wrote: > > What else (if not sector remapping) could make the "current" > > size gradually smaller between reboots. And why is "native" > > size still constant? And why does now even access to the but-last > > native sector fail? The explanation with

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-27 Thread Alan
> What else (if not sector remapping) could make the "current" > size gradually smaller between reboots. And why is "native" > size still constant? And why does now even access to the but-last > native sector fail? The explanation with block-reads no longer > works. The presented size of an ATA d

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-27 Thread Andreas Leitgeb
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 04:33:28PM +, Alan wrote: > > So after real remaining capacity has dropped > > below original capacity, querying the "native" size still > > returns the original size, which is no longer physically > > backed. > This is incorrect. Please, also give some hints, what act

Re: Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-27 Thread Alan
> What the drive reports as "native" capacity indeed does > *not* take into (negative-)account those sectors, that have > been remapped. So after real remaining capacity has dropped > below original capacity, querying the "native" size still > returns the original size, which is no longer physic

Allow turning off hpa-checking.

2006-11-27 Thread Andreas Leitgeb
On Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 01:30:44PM +, Alan wrote: > HPA has nothign to do with sector remapping. What the drive reports as "native" capacity indeed does *not* take into (negative-)account those sectors, that have been remapped. So after real remaining capacity has dropped below original capa