Re: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2013-03-11 Thread Andreas Dilger
On 2013-03-10, at 6:06, Lijo Antony wrote: > On 03/10/2013 08:51 AM, Simeon Bird wrote: >> >> We (nepomuk) recently looked at using fanotify, and indeed we would >> need user watches, support for moves and recursive directory watches >> (we need to support the case where /home is not a separate

Re: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2013-03-11 Thread Andreas Dilger
On 2013-03-10, at 6:06, Lijo Antony lijo.ker...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/10/2013 08:51 AM, Simeon Bird wrote: We (nepomuk) recently looked at using fanotify, and indeed we would need user watches, support for moves and recursive directory watches (we need to support the case where /home is not

Re: Fwd: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2013-03-10 Thread Lijo Antony
On 03/10/2013 08:51 AM, Simeon Bird wrote: Hi, We (nepomuk) recently looked at using fanotify, and indeed we would need user watches, support for moves and recursive directory watches (we need to support the case where /home is not a separate filesystem) before it would be useful to us. If you

Re: Fwd: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2013-03-10 Thread Lijo Antony
On 03/10/2013 08:51 AM, Simeon Bird wrote: Hi, We (nepomuk) recently looked at using fanotify, and indeed we would need user watches, support for moves and recursive directory watches (we need to support the case where /home is not a separate filesystem) before it would be useful to us. If you

Fwd: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2013-03-09 Thread Simeon Bird
Sent again in plain-text - apologies. -- Forwarded message -- From: Simeon Bird Date: 9 March 2013 23:49 Subject: Re: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications To: Tvrtko Ursulin Cc: Martin Steigerwald , Jan Kara , Robert Love , linux-kernel

Fwd: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2013-03-09 Thread Simeon Bird
Sent again in plain-text - apologies. -- Forwarded message -- From: Simeon Bird bla...@gmail.com Date: 9 March 2013 23:49 Subject: Re: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications To: Tvrtko Ursulin tvrtko.ursu...@onelan.co.uk Cc: Martin Steigerwald

Re: Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-12 Thread Tvrtko Ursulin
On Saturday 10 November 2012 17:53:45 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Still fanotify needs root access and thus this would need a daemon running > as root and some policy kit stuff to access it and in case of mount point > watches robust and secure code so that each user may only see his/her own >

Re: Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-12 Thread Tvrtko Ursulin
On Saturday 10 November 2012 17:53:45 Martin Steigerwald wrote: Still fanotify needs root access and thus this would need a daemon running as root and some policy kit stuff to access it and in case of mount point watches robust and secure code so that each user may only see his/her own

Re: Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 1. November 2012 schrieb Tvrtko Ursulin: > On Thursday 01 November 2012 13:52:42 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > ... > > > The following two main issues led to the discussion about adding > > notification about user inotify watch limit or even having it raised > > automatically via

Re: Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 1. November 2012 schrieb Tvrtko Ursulin: On Thursday 01 November 2012 13:52:42 Martin Steigerwald wrote: ... The following two main issues led to the discussion about adding notification about user inotify watch limit or even having it raised automatically via some policy

Re: Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-01 Thread Tvrtko Ursulin
On Thursday 01 November 2012 13:52:42 Martin Steigerwald wrote: ... > The following two main issues led to the discussion about adding > notification about user inotify watch limit or even having it raised > automatically via some policy kit mechanism: > > 1) Watches are not working recursively.

Re: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 1. November 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Furthermore there is an issue with updating the file index on login or > service start. In order to catch all other file renames a indexer would > have to run over every directory whose modification time stamp has > changed again in

Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Some time ago I stumpled over a blog entry that kernel user inotify watch limit is often not enough for Nepomuk File Watcher to be notified of file renames, new files and file deletes reliably[1]. There has been a discussion about that on various places[2,3,4] and likely others. I am

Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Some time ago I stumpled over a blog entry that kernel user inotify watch limit is often not enough for Nepomuk File Watcher to be notified of file renames, new files and file deletes reliably[1]. There has been a discussion about that on various places[2,3,4] and likely others. I am

Re: [Nepomuk] Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 1. November 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: Furthermore there is an issue with updating the file index on login or service start. In order to catch all other file renames a indexer would have to run over every directory whose modification time stamp has changed again in order

Re: Better support for (desktop) file search / indexing applications

2012-11-01 Thread Tvrtko Ursulin
On Thursday 01 November 2012 13:52:42 Martin Steigerwald wrote: ... The following two main issues led to the discussion about adding notification about user inotify watch limit or even having it raised automatically via some policy kit mechanism: 1) Watches are not working recursively. Thus