[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote on 30.04.01 in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>
> > I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about
> > 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my sig
> > until about 1996,
I'm fairly sure if he attached the BZ2'd sigs (exact same sigs, just bz2'd
and tacked on like they are currently) would offend at least three camps,
and have the benifit of showing up many broken mailers, filters, and
various other mail related items.
Nick
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Gerhard Mac
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I think ppl are recommending you BZ2 all your sigs..
>
> Yes, I got that. Except for the people saying they like them as-is.
>
> In the absence of a clear consensus on the matter, I'm going to do
> as
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [esr]
> > Besides, right now the configurator has a simple invariant. It will
> > only accept consistent configurations
>
> So you are saying that the old 'vi .config; make oldconfig' trick is
> officially unsupported? That's too bad, it was quite handy.
[esr]
> Besides, right now the configurator has a simple invariant. It will
> only accept consistent configurations
So you are saying that the old 'vi .config; make oldconfig' trick is
officially unsupported? That's too bad, it was quite handy.
Peter
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Leif Sawyer wrote:
> Oh for fsck's sake. You've now wasted 1000x more bandwidth bitching
> about sig length than the the actual sig used up.
Nope, between esr's sigs and your geek code block+sig+stuff, we are
still playing catch-up... More posting to do!
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Jeff Garzik writes:
> Does anybody have a procmail recipe that filters out e-mail to
> linux-kernel that contain ridiculously long .sigs?
> --
> Jeff Garzik | Game called on account of naked chick
Oh for fsck's sake. You've now wasted 1000x more bandwidth bitching
about sig length than th
John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It should then highlight *all* of the potential problem config
> setting(s) and let the user deal. But they should never be forced to
> hand edit their config file because a dependency is broken somewhere.
> CML2 should enforce the *writing* of compliant files,
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Does anybody have a procmail recipe that filters out e-mail to
> linux-kernel that contain ridiculously long .sigs?
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> Jeff Garzik | Game called on account of naked chick
^
Why that? I se
Does anybody have a procmail recipe that filters out e-mail to
linux-kernel that contain ridiculously long .sigs?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think ppl are recommending you BZ2 all your sigs..
Yes, I got that. Except for the people saying they like them as-is.
In the absence of a clear consensus on the matter, I'm going to do
as I please. Especially since I have a strong suspicion that
Eric> John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Which is a real PITA because now I have to edit my .config file to
>> have:
>>
>> CONFIG_RTC=y
Eric> The correct fix for this PITA is for Linus not to ship a broken
Eric> defconfig.
While I can sympathize with this comment, I still feel that CML2 need
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >I tried whitespace, but the default Tkinter font isn't fixed-width. How
> > >do you do invisible text?
> >
> > Text colour = background colour -> invisible
>
> Well, duh. Unfortunately, it doesn't see
I think ppl are recommending you BZ2 all your sigs..
Nick
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >From AFW FAQ:
> >
> > Q11. What is the McQuary limit?
> > A11. "There once was a man from Nantucket,
> > who lost his .sig in a bucke
Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> We hang in different parts of USENET
I don't hang in Usenet at all, any more. Gave up on it about '98.
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You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to
follow the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> Maybe I just didn't read the right standards manual when I started
> using the internet.
Then read it now. http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about
> 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my
> sig until about 1996, well after the "standard" was effectively dead.
RFC 1855 is dated October 1995.
- If you include a signa
Eric S. Raymond scripsit:
> I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about
> 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my sig
> until about 1996, well after the "standard" was effectively dead.
I have always obeyed it.
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At 09:03 30/04/2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >I tried whitespace, but the default Tkinter font isn't fixed-width. How
> > >do you do invisible text?
> >
> > Text colour = background colour -> invisible
>
>Well, duh. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to ha
Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >I tried whitespace, but the default Tkinter font isn't fixed-width. How
> >do you do invisible text?
>
> Text colour = background colour -> invisible
Well, duh. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have occured to the dozen or
so people who suggested thi
At 02:41 30/04/2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I don't know about whether this is possible with Tcl but have you tried A)
> > invisible text and/or B) white space character text (e.g. one or more
> > spaces)? That's the kind of thing I usually try in this
Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >From AFW FAQ:
>
> Q11. What is the McQuary limit?
> A11. "There once was a man from Nantucket,
> who lost his .sig in a bucket.
> Five lines was too long,
> columns 80 just strong,
> so he didn't know where to tuck it."
> A11. The limit o
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Eric, it's getting tiresome. Kindly learn what the fsck McQ is, OK?
>
> Just out of curiousity - what is McQ ?
>
> Vladimir Dergachev
>
> PS And no, I am very sure there is no such thing in Star Trek.
McQ:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> I don't think I've heard anyone invoke the 4-line rule since about
> 1992, though. I didn't start generating short random quotes into my sig
> until about 1996, well after the "standard" was effectively dead.
We hang in different parts of USENET
"Eric S. Raymond" wrote:
> Actually, Al is sort of half-right here. There used to be a 4-lines-or-less
> convention on USENET, back in the days when bandwidth was expensive. I
> adhered to it then, because it mattered.
>
> Nowadays it doesn't -- at least not at that level. Huge sigs with
> emb
>
> Eric, it's getting tiresome. Kindly learn what the fsck McQ is, OK?
Just out of curiousity - what is McQ ?
Vladimir Dergachev
PS And no, I am very sure there is no such thing in Star Trek.
>
> /me abstains from attaching Kibo's .sig - 1Mb of PDF is unfortu
David Emory Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Oh. Well in hindsight, I guess your are right. After all I wouldn't
> want to be a luser, much less associated with AOL. Gosh I never
> realized. Maybe I just didn't read the right standards manual when I
> started using the internet. Where did you l
Oh. Well in hindsight, I guess your are right. After all I wouldn't
want to be a luser, much less associated with AOL. Gosh I never
realized. Maybe I just didn't read the right standards manual when I
started using the internet. Where did you learn all of this? No,
nevermind I don't care.
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, David Emory Watson wrote:
> Al,
>
> I really don't know why you must complain about Eric's sig. I
Because violating the common standards is a bad thing? You know, like
4-lines limit on sig size... And no, I don't care how many AOL and
WebTV lusers do the same thing.
Al,
I really don't know why you must complain about Eric's sig. I
personally like them just as they are, but thats strictly besides the
point. IMHO, it is just not very intresting to hear you say:
> Eric, it's getting tiresome. Kindly learn what the fsck McQ is, OK?
Especially after all of
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I don't know about whether this is possible with Tcl but have you tried A)
> > invisible text and/or B) white space character text (e.g. one or more
> > spaces)? That's the kind of thing I usually try in
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond quoted:
> Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I don't know about whether this is possible with Tcl but have you tried A)
> > invisible text and/or B) white space character text (e.g. one or more
> > spaces)? That's the kind of thing I usually try i
Eric S. Raymond scripsit:
> I tried whitespace, but the default Tkinter font isn't fixed-width. How
> do you do invisible text?
Set the background color and the foreground color to be the same.
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One art/there is/no less/no more/
Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I don't know about whether this is possible with Tcl but have you tried A)
> invisible text and/or B) white space character text (e.g. one or more
> spaces)? That's the kind of thing I usually try in this situation... Just
> an idea...
I tried whitespa
At 23:35 29/04/2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Also, the buttons on the right hand side for HELP, are wider when they
> > have text in them, but slightly narrower when they are blank. They
> > should be the same width no matter what. It looks ragged and ugly.
John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Before on startup it would give:
>
> [root@jfs linux]# make config
> rm -f include/asm
> ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
> python -O scripts/cmlconfigure.py -DX86 -B 2.4.4-pre7 -W -i config.out
> rules.out
> ISA=y (deduced from X86)
Eric S. Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> USB and SCSI are both enabled/disabled in the system buses menu. The
> apparent confusion
Sorry, I typoed...
USB and SCSI are both enabled/disabled in the system buses menu. The
apparent confusion happens because of their defaults.
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ht
John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Which is a real PITA because now I have to edit my .config file to
> have:
>
>CONFIG_RTC=y
The correct fix for this PITA is for Linus not to ship a broken defconfig.
> Now when I do a 'make config' it comes up properly. I
> think this is a
Eric> I'm going to stick my neck out a mile and say that I think this
Eric> is a stable release. Doing so, of course, is in reality a
Eric> clever plan which ensures that at least three embarrassing bugs
Eric> will be discovered within the next 24 hours...
I've just downloaded and installed cml
Release 1.3.1: Fri Apr 27 19:02:31 EDT 2001
* kxref.py can now replace the unmaintained checkhelp.pl,
checkconfig.pl, and checkincludes.pl scripts.
I'm going to stick my neck out a mile and say that I think this is a
stable release. Doing so, of course, is in reality a clever
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