Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-13 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > Something like that.I have yet to see a even a proof of concept > > of the idea of passing device information, to clean up probes. > > Yes, the kexec-based boot loader first, then this. For a > kexec-based boot

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-13 Thread Adam Sulmicki
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Catalin(ux aka Dino) BOIE wrote: I really suggest to push this limit to 4k. My reason is that under UML I need to put a lot of stuff in command line and uml crash if I not extend this limit. Can we make it depend on arhitecture? another nice feature would be the kernel

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-13 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: > For detecting devices especially in the case that takes > a while that isn't something we need to do early > in the boot process. Yes, but I'd rather have a generic mechanism that works in all reasonable cases. Things have a tendency of growing in the oddest directions.

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-13 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: For detecting devices especially in the case that takes a while that isn't something we need to do early in the boot process. Yes, but I'd rather have a generic mechanism that works in all reasonable cases. Things have a tendency of growing in the oddest directions.

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-13 Thread Adam Sulmicki
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005, Catalin(ux aka Dino) BOIE wrote: I really suggest to push this limit to 4k. My reason is that under UML I need to put a lot of stuff in command line and uml crash if I not extend this limit. Can we make it depend on arhitecture? another nice feature would be the kernel

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-13 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric W. Biederman wrote: Something like that.I have yet to see a even a proof of concept of the idea of passing device information, to clean up probes. Yes, the kexec-based boot loader first, then this. For a kexec-based boot loader,

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-12 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > Actually this is trivial to do by using a file in initramfs. > > If we need something in a well defined format anyway. > > Yes, constructing an additional initramfs, or modifying an existing > one to hold such data is

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-12 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Actually this is trivial to do by using a file in initramfs. > If we need something in a well defined format anyway. Yes, constructing an additional initramfs, or modifying an existing one to hold such data is certainly a possibility. I think there are mainly three

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-12 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andi Kleen wrote: > > It's dependent on the architecture already. I would like to enable > > it on i386/x86-64 because the kernel command line is often used > > to pass parameters to installers, and having a small limit there > > can be awkward. >

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-12 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andi Kleen wrote: It's dependent on the architecture already. I would like to enable it on i386/x86-64 because the kernel command line is often used to pass parameters to installers, and having a small limit there can be awkward. Something

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-12 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric W. Biederman wrote: Actually this is trivial to do by using a file in initramfs. If we need something in a well defined format anyway. Yes, constructing an additional initramfs, or modifying an existing one to hold such data is certainly

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-06 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andi Kleen wrote: > It's dependent on the architecture already. I would like to enable > it on i386/x86-64 because the kernel command line is often used > to pass parameters to installers, and having a small limit there > can be awkward. Something to keep in mind when extending the command line

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-02-06 Thread Werner Almesberger
Andi Kleen wrote: It's dependent on the architecture already. I would like to enable it on i386/x86-64 because the kernel command line is often used to pass parameters to installers, and having a small limit there can be awkward. Something to keep in mind when extending the command line is

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-21 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Matt Domsch wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 08:11:44AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: I really suggest to push this limit to 4k. My reason is that under UML I need to put a lot of stuff in command line and uml crash if I not extend this limit. Can we make it depend on arhitecture? It's dependent on the

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-21 Thread Matt Domsch
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 08:11:44AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: > > I really suggest to push this limit to 4k. My reason is that under UML I > > need to put a lot of stuff in command line and uml crash if I not extend > > this limit. Can we make it depend on arhitecture? > > It's dependent on the

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-21 Thread Matt Domsch
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 08:11:44AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: I really suggest to push this limit to 4k. My reason is that under UML I need to put a lot of stuff in command line and uml crash if I not extend this limit. Can we make it depend on arhitecture? It's dependent on the

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-21 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Matt Domsch wrote: On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 08:11:44AM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote: I really suggest to push this limit to 4k. My reason is that under UML I need to put a lot of stuff in command line and uml crash if I not extend this limit. Can we make it depend on arhitecture? It's dependent on the

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Andi Kleen
> I really suggest to push this limit to 4k. My reason is that under UML I > need to put a lot of stuff in command line and uml crash if I not extend > this limit. Can we make it depend on arhitecture? It's dependent on the architecture already. I would like to enable it on i386/x86-64 because

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Catalin(ux aka Dino) BOIE
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Andi Kleen wrote: AOL: - lilo 22.6.1 - CONFIG_EDD=y - 2.6.10-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1 did boot - 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 didn't boot - 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 with this ChangeSet reverted boots. What I gather so far the problem seems to only happen with lilo and EDID together.

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:13:22AM +0100, Janos Farkas wrote: > > > > Isn't this define a lilo dependence? > > AOL: > - lilo 22.6.1 > - CONFIG_EDD=y > - 2.6.10-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1 did boot > - 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 didn't boot > -

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Andi Kleen
> AOL: > - lilo 22.6.1 > - CONFIG_EDD=y > - 2.6.10-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1 did boot > - 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 didn't boot > - 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 with this ChangeSet reverted boots. What I gather so far the problem seems to only happen with lilo and EDID together. grub appears to work. Or did

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:13:22AM +0100, Janos Farkas wrote: > Hi Andi! > > I had difficulties booting recent rc1-bkN kernels on at least two > Athlon machines (but somehow, on an *old* Pentium laptop booted with the > a very similar system just fine). > > The kernel just hung very early, just

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:13:22AM +0100, Janos Farkas wrote: Hi Andi! I had difficulties booting recent rc1-bkN kernels on at least two Athlon machines (but somehow, on an *old* Pentium laptop booted with the a very similar system just fine). The kernel just hung very early, just after

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Andi Kleen
AOL: - lilo 22.6.1 - CONFIG_EDD=y - 2.6.10-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1 did boot - 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 didn't boot - 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 with this ChangeSet reverted boots. What I gather so far the problem seems to only happen with lilo and EDID together. grub appears to work. Or did

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:13:22AM +0100, Janos Farkas wrote: Isn't this define a lilo dependence? AOL: - lilo 22.6.1 - CONFIG_EDD=y - 2.6.10-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1 did boot - 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 didn't boot - 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 with

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Catalin(ux aka Dino) BOIE
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005, Andi Kleen wrote: AOL: - lilo 22.6.1 - CONFIG_EDD=y - 2.6.10-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1 did boot - 2.6.11-rc1-mm1 and 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 didn't boot - 2.6.11-rc1-mm2 with this ChangeSet reverted boots. What I gather so far the problem seems to only happen with lilo and EDID together.

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-20 Thread Andi Kleen
I really suggest to push this limit to 4k. My reason is that under UML I need to put a lot of stuff in command line and uml crash if I not extend this limit. Can we make it depend on arhitecture? It's dependent on the architecture already. I would like to enable it on i386/x86-64 because the

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-19 Thread Chris Bruner
FYI, I found that the problem I was having was caused by the "BIOS Enhanced Disk Drives" turned on. It was on in previous versions as well, and they worked ok, so I assume that something has changed. In anycase turning it off fixed my problem. Chris Bruner On Wed January 19 2005 06:13 pm,

COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-19 Thread Janos Farkas
Hi Andi! I had difficulties booting recent rc1-bkN kernels on at least two Athlon machines (but somehow, on an *old* Pentium laptop booted with the a very similar system just fine). The kernel just hung very early, just after displaying "BIOS data check successful" by lilo (22.6.1).

COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-19 Thread Janos Farkas
Hi Andi! I had difficulties booting recent rc1-bkN kernels on at least two Athlon machines (but somehow, on an *old* Pentium laptop booted with the a very similar system just fine). The kernel just hung very early, just after displaying BIOS data check successful by lilo (22.6.1). Ctrl-Alt-Del

Re: COMMAND_LINE_SIZE increasing in 2.6.11-rc1-bk6

2005-01-19 Thread Chris Bruner
FYI, I found that the problem I was having was caused by the BIOS Enhanced Disk Drives turned on. It was on in previous versions as well, and they worked ok, so I assume that something has changed. In anycase turning it off fixed my problem. Chris Bruner On Wed January 19 2005 06:13 pm,