Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-27 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > >Is read access safe ? > > > > Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY > > nothing can happen to it in any way, your NTFS data is at least safe. > > Isn't it still theoretcially possible for the driver to send commands to the > disk controller that

Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-27 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! Is read access safe ? Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY nothing can happen to it in any way, your NTFS data is at least safe. Isn't it still theoretcially possible for the driver to send commands to the disk controller that cause data to

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-25 Thread Sergey Kubushin
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: Thank you for a reply, but I don't think it's just the ide stuff which broken. ext2fs is also broken and I suspect that all the rest is broken too. It looks like there was a single change which affected all the modules... > Working to clean all the

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-25 Thread Matthias Andree
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: > > Working to clean all the modular natures of ATA/IDE now > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Sergey Kubushin wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > > > Modules don't load. I do usually compile heavily modular kernels, with ide > > and ext2fs

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-25 Thread Matthias Andree
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Andre Hedrick wrote: Working to clean all the modular natures of ATA/IDE now On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Sergey Kubushin wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Modules don't load. I do usually compile heavily modular kernels, with ide and ext2fs being also

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Andre Hedrick
Working to clean all the modular natures of ATA/IDE now On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Sergey Kubushin wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > Modules don't load. I do usually compile heavily modular kernels, with ide > and ext2fs being also modular. When trying to load them from initrd, I

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Sergey Kubushin
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: Don't be silly. I do not use RedHat (I do my own distribution, KSI Linux) and their mkinitrd is just a script. Furthermore, I don't have ext2fs in the kernel so their mkinitrd won't work. I do not have ide in the kernel either... > As I don't use

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
As I don't use initrd at all I am a bit out of my depth here but according to Documentation/Changes you need a new mkinitrd and the version suggested seems to be 2.8-1. Checking my up-to-date RedHat 7.0 workstation it has mkinitrd version 2.6-1, so this might be your problem? Best regards,

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Sergey Kubushin
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Modules don't load. I do usually compile heavily modular kernels, with ide and ext2fs being also modular. When trying to load them from initrd, I have the following output: === Cut === ide-mod.o: Can't handle sections of type 32131 ide-probe-mod.o: Can't

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Alan Cox
> does that mean, if I apply ac11 I have already the same like pre9 patch > plus you patches? Yes - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Luc de Louw
Hi Alan On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > o Resync with Linus 2.4.1pre9 does that mean, if I apply ac11 I have already the same like pre9 patch plus you patches? I know, its not the most intelligent question, but nobody could tell me... rgds Luc de Louw - To unsubscribe from

Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
At 17:03 24/01/01, Timur Tabi wrote: >** Reply to message from Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 24 Jan >2001 16:54:36 + > > > >Is read access safe ? > > > > Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY > > nothing can happen to it in any way, your

Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread mirabilos
Timur Tabi wrote: > Isn't it still theoretcially possible for the driver to send commands to the > disk controller that cause data to become overwritten, even when it's just > supposed to read that data? IMHO the NTFS driver creators weren't bloody newbies and won't do such a bug, even not by

Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Timur Tabi
** Reply to message from Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:54:36 + > >Is read access safe ? > > Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY > nothing can happen to it in any way, your NTFS data is at least safe. Isn't it still

NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
At 15:05 24/01/01, Cataldo Thomas wrote: >On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > > 2.4.0-ac11 > > o Major NTFS updates (Anton Altaparmakov) > >Is read access safe ? Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY nothing can happen to

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Cataldo Thomas
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/ > > Slightly delayed because I had take some time out to fall off a horse.. > > > 2.4.0-ac11 > o Major NTFS updates (Anton Altaparmakov) Is read access safe ? I would

Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Alan Cox
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/ Slightly delayed because I had take some time out to fall off a horse.. 2.4.0-ac11 o Raid5 corruption fix(Neil Brown) o Add Etrax 'cris' architecture support (Axis) o APIC

Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Alan Cox
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/ Slightly delayed because I had take some time out to fall off a horse.. 2.4.0-ac11 o Raid5 corruption fix(Neil Brown) o Add Etrax 'cris' architecture support (Axis) o APIC

NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
At 15:05 24/01/01, Cataldo Thomas wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: 2.4.0-ac11 o Major NTFS updates (Anton Altaparmakov) Is read access safe ? Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY nothing can happen to it in

Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Timur Tabi
** Reply to message from Anton Altaparmakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:54:36 + Is read access safe ? Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY nothing can happen to it in any way, your NTFS data is at least safe. Isn't it still

Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread mirabilos
Timur Tabi wrote: Isn't it still theoretcially possible for the driver to send commands to the disk controller that cause data to become overwritten, even when it's just supposed to read that data? IMHO the NTFS driver creators weren't bloody newbies and won't do such a bug, even not by

Re: NTFS safety and lack thereof - Was: Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
At 17:03 24/01/01, Timur Tabi wrote: ** Reply to message from Anton Altaparmakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:54:36 + Is read access safe ? Of course read-only is safe. As long as you mount the partition READ-ONLY nothing can happen to it in any way, your NTFS data is at

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Alan Cox
does that mean, if I apply ac11 I have already the same like pre9 patch plus you patches? Yes - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Sergey Kubushin
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Modules don't load. I do usually compile heavily modular kernels, with ide and ext2fs being also modular. When trying to load them from initrd, I have the following output: === Cut === ide-mod.o: Can't handle sections of type 32131 ide-probe-mod.o: Can't

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
As I don't use initrd at all I am a bit out of my depth here but according to Documentation/Changes you need a new mkinitrd and the version suggested seems to be 2.8-1. Checking my up-to-date RedHat 7.0 workstation it has mkinitrd version 2.6-1, so this might be your problem? Best regards,

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Sergey Kubushin
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: Don't be silly. I do not use RedHat (I do my own distribution, KSI Linux) and their mkinitrd is just a script. Furthermore, I don't have ext2fs in the kernel so their mkinitrd won't work. I do not have ide in the kernel either... As I don't use

Re: Linux 2.4.0ac11

2001-01-24 Thread Andre Hedrick
Working to clean all the modular natures of ATA/IDE now On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Sergey Kubushin wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Alan Cox wrote: Modules don't load. I do usually compile heavily modular kernels, with ide and ext2fs being also modular. When trying to load them from initrd, I have