Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-04 Thread James Bruce
As a final update, I added the third card to another machine and that doesn't work either. So after trying 3 kernels on two machines with either one or two cards, and trying the ~120 different card options for bttv to no avail, I'll just guess this card isn't actually supported right now.

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-04 Thread James Bruce
As a final update, I added the third card to another machine and that doesn't work either. So after trying 3 kernels on two machines with either one or two cards, and trying the ~120 different card options for bttv to no avail, I'll just guess this card isn't actually supported right now.

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, James Bruce wrote: > Sorry, I wasn't clear in the previous email; I did try the card= option > anyway. I wrote a looping script and tested first 70 card= options, and > none worked properly for streaming capture. Some did show different > behavior though. I might try the

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread Gerd Knorr
> I did notice one strange thing though; the card= option is only applied > to the first bttv card. All remaining cards in the system are still > autodetected (which ends up assuming card=0 in my case). Not sure if > this is the intended behavior or not, since someone really could run two >

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread James Bruce
Sorry, I wasn't clear in the previous email; I did try the card= option anyway. I wrote a looping script and tested first 70 card= options, and none worked properly for streaming capture. Some did show different behavior though. I might try the remaining 50 later today. I did notice one

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread Paulo Marques
James Bruce wrote: [...] The card= option didn't help in my case since my card is not in the list; For thess cards we went off the reccomendation of other people doing machine vision in Linux; Next time I guess we'll go name brand again... I think you should try it anyway, using all the

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread James Bruce
Forgive me for being annoying; I'm trying to be careful because I get one more failure in a test and then that's it. The manufacturer no longer lists that model as being produced. Thus if there's a way to ruin a bttv card through the V4L2 interface I will no longer be of any assistance in

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread Gerd Knorr
James Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you could suggest a very well tested kernel for bttv (2.6.9?), What do you expect? With just one single report and not remotely being clear what exactly caused it ... > I've heard that there is some way to dump eeproms; Is there a way to > write

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread Gerd Knorr
James Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you could suggest a very well tested kernel for bttv (2.6.9?), What do you expect? With just one single report and not remotely being clear what exactly caused it ... I've heard that there is some way to dump eeproms; Is there a way to write them

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread James Bruce
Forgive me for being annoying; I'm trying to be careful because I get one more failure in a test and then that's it. The manufacturer no longer lists that model as being produced. Thus if there's a way to ruin a bttv card through the V4L2 interface I will no longer be of any assistance in

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread Paulo Marques
James Bruce wrote: [...] The card= option didn't help in my case since my card is not in the list; For thess cards we went off the reccomendation of other people doing machine vision in Linux; Next time I guess we'll go name brand again... I think you should try it anyway, using all the

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread James Bruce
Sorry, I wasn't clear in the previous email; I did try the card= option anyway. I wrote a looping script and tested first 70 card= options, and none worked properly for streaming capture. Some did show different behavior though. I might try the remaining 50 later today. I did notice one

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread Gerd Knorr
I did notice one strange thing though; the card= option is only applied to the first bttv card. All remaining cards in the system are still autodetected (which ends up assuming card=0 in my case). Not sure if this is the intended behavior or not, since someone really could run two

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-03-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, James Bruce wrote: Sorry, I wasn't clear in the previous email; I did try the card= option anyway. I wrote a looping script and tested first 70 card= options, and none worked properly for streaming capture. Some did show different behavior though. I might try the

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread James Bruce
I don't think it was a line spike since one of the video cards that went bad didn't have a video cable attached to it. It could be the computer, but that one hasn't given us a problem for the almost five years we've had it. If I did cause it though with my "buggy program of doom", that

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread James Bruce
Thanks for the hints. Unfortunately the cards in question really are fairly generic and thus don't appear in the list. I tried the first 75 cards as insmod options (using a script of course), and some of them are different, but none work properly. I am lucky in that I still have a spare. If

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
James Bruce wrote: Well, are there any theories as to why it would work flawlessly, then after a hard lockup (due to what I think is a buggy V4L2 application), that the cards no longer work? That was with 2.6.10, but after they started failing I tried 2.6.11-rc5 and it doesn't work either. By

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Gerd Knorr
> I remember something about that you shouldn't use the teletext-decoder > at the same time as viewing regular tv. That would damage the eeprom. > Maybe it is related? No. Thats (a) very old and about two drivers banging on the bt848 card at the same time, where the second doesn't even exist for

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Folkert van Heusden
> > Well, are there any theories as to why it would work flawlessly, then > > after a hard lockup (due to what I think is a buggy V4L2 application), > > that the cards no longer work? > No idea why the eeprom doesn't respond any more. Maybe it's really > broken. Note that the eeprom is read only

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Gerd Knorr
James Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, are there any theories as to why it would work flawlessly, then > after a hard lockup (due to what I think is a buggy V4L2 application), > that the cards no longer work? No idea why the eeprom doesn't respond any more. Maybe it's really broken.

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread James Bruce
Well, are there any theories as to why it would work flawlessly, then after a hard lockup (due to what I think is a buggy V4L2 application), that the cards no longer work? That was with 2.6.10, but after they started failing I tried 2.6.11-rc5 and it doesn't work either. By the way, I sent

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Gerd Knorr
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:57:49PM -0500, James Bruce wrote: > Hi I've read elsewhere that the following message: > "tveeprom(bttv internal): Huh, no eeprom present (err=-121)?" > Means that a bttv card is dead. Or i2c communication to the eeprom failed. There used to be some -mm kernels with

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Gerd Knorr
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 11:57:49PM -0500, James Bruce wrote: Hi I've read elsewhere that the following message: tveeprom(bttv internal): Huh, no eeprom present (err=-121)? Means that a bttv card is dead. Or i2c communication to the eeprom failed. There used to be some -mm kernels with

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread James Bruce
Well, are there any theories as to why it would work flawlessly, then after a hard lockup (due to what I think is a buggy V4L2 application), that the cards no longer work? That was with 2.6.10, but after they started failing I tried 2.6.11-rc5 and it doesn't work either. By the way, I sent

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Gerd Knorr
James Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, are there any theories as to why it would work flawlessly, then after a hard lockup (due to what I think is a buggy V4L2 application), that the cards no longer work? No idea why the eeprom doesn't respond any more. Maybe it's really broken. Note

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Folkert van Heusden
Well, are there any theories as to why it would work flawlessly, then after a hard lockup (due to what I think is a buggy V4L2 application), that the cards no longer work? No idea why the eeprom doesn't respond any more. Maybe it's really broken. Note that the eeprom is read only at

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Gerd Knorr
I remember something about that you shouldn't use the teletext-decoder at the same time as viewing regular tv. That would damage the eeprom. Maybe it is related? No. Thats (a) very old and about two drivers banging on the bt848 card at the same time, where the second doesn't even exist for

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
James Bruce wrote: Well, are there any theories as to why it would work flawlessly, then after a hard lockup (due to what I think is a buggy V4L2 application), that the cards no longer work? That was with 2.6.10, but after they started failing I tried 2.6.11-rc5 and it doesn't work either. By

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread James Bruce
Thanks for the hints. Unfortunately the cards in question really are fairly generic and thus don't appear in the list. I tried the first 75 cards as insmod options (using a script of course), and some of them are different, but none work properly. I am lucky in that I still have a spare. If

Re: Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-28 Thread James Bruce
I don't think it was a line spike since one of the video cards that went bad didn't have a video cable attached to it. It could be the computer, but that one hasn't given us a problem for the almost five years we've had it. If I did cause it though with my buggy program of doom, that

Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-25 Thread James Bruce
Hi I've read elsewhere that the following message: "tveeprom(bttv internal): Huh, no eeprom present (err=-121)?" Means that a bttv card is dead. If so, then I've apparently found a way to kill bttv cards in vanilla 2.6.10. They worked fine a few days ago, but after running some "cleaned up"

Potentially dead bttv cards from 2.6.10

2005-02-25 Thread James Bruce
Hi I've read elsewhere that the following message: tveeprom(bttv internal): Huh, no eeprom present (err=-121)? Means that a bttv card is dead. If so, then I've apparently found a way to kill bttv cards in vanilla 2.6.10. They worked fine a few days ago, but after running some cleaned up