Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2001-01-18 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I agree writing the code to understand the table may be a significant > > issue. On the other hand I still think it is worth a look, being > > able to unify option parsing for multiple platforms is not a small > > gain, nor is getting out from

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2001-01-18 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree writing the code to understand the table may be a significant issue. On the other hand I still think it is worth a look, being able to unify option parsing for multiple platforms is not a small gain, nor is getting out from short

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-19 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > The code wasn't trivially reusable, and the structures had a lot > > of overhead. > > There's some overhead, but I think it's not too bad. I'll give it a > try ... > > > The rebooting is done the rest is not yet. >

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-19 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: > The code wasn't trivially reusable, and the structures had a lot > of overhead. There's some overhead, but I think it's not too bad. I'll give it a try ... > The rebooting is done the rest is not yet. Ah, and I already wondered where in all the APIC code you've

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-19 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > Well there is that. Somehow implementing scatter/gather from > > a user space process seemed like a potential mess, and extra work. > > Did you look at kiobufs ? I think they may just have the right > functionality.

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-19 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric W. Biederman wrote: Well there is that. Somehow implementing scatter/gather from a user space process seemed like a potential mess, and extra work. Did you look at kiobufs ? I think they may just have the right functionality. I always

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-19 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: The code wasn't trivially reusable, and the structures had a lot of overhead. There's some overhead, but I think it's not too bad. I'll give it a try ... The rebooting is done the rest is not yet. Ah, and I already wondered where in all the APIC code you've hidden

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-19 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric W. Biederman wrote: The code wasn't trivially reusable, and the structures had a lot of overhead. There's some overhead, but I think it's not too bad. I'll give it a try ... The rebooting is done the rest is not yet. Ah, and I

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-18 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: > Well there is that. Somehow implementing scatter/gather from > a user space process seemed like a potential mess, and extra work. Did you look at kiobufs ? I think they may just have the right functionality. I always wanted bootimg to be able to memory-map things to

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-18 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: Well there is that. Somehow implementing scatter/gather from a user space process seemed like a potential mess, and extra work. Did you look at kiobufs ? I think they may just have the right functionality. I always wanted bootimg to be able to memory-map things to

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-16 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > There are a couple of differences. > > But the big one is I'm trying to do it right. > > So why do you need a file-based interface then ? ;-) When possible it is nice to set as much policy as possible, without

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-16 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Werner Almesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric W. Biederman wrote: There are a couple of differences. But the big one is I'm trying to do it right. So why do you need a file-based interface then ? ;-) When possible it is nice to set as much policy as possible, without removing

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-15 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Erik Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue Nov 14, 2000 at 07:59:18AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > > > All mkelfImage does is the pasting of initrd's, command lines, > > and just a touch of argument conversion code. > > You can link in an initrd using linker magic, i.e. >

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-15 Thread Erik Andersen
On Tue Nov 14, 2000 at 07:59:18AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > All mkelfImage does is the pasting of initrd's, command lines, > and just a touch of argument conversion code. You can link in an initrd using linker magic, i.e. $(OBJCOPY) --add-section=image=kernel

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-15 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Erik Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu Nov 09, 2000 at 01:18:24AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > > > I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot > > into another linux kernel. > > Looks very cool. I'm curious about your decision to use ELF images.

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-15 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu Nov 09, 2000 at 01:18:24AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot into another linux kernel. Looks very cool. I'm curious about your decision to use ELF images. This makes

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-15 Thread Erik Andersen
On Tue Nov 14, 2000 at 07:59:18AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: All mkelfImage does is the pasting of initrd's, command lines, and just a touch of argument conversion code. You can link in an initrd using linker magic, i.e. $(OBJCOPY) --add-section=image=kernel

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-15 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue Nov 14, 2000 at 07:59:18AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: All mkelfImage does is the pasting of initrd's, command lines, and just a touch of argument conversion code. You can link in an initrd using linker magic, i.e. $(OBJCOPY)

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: > There are a couple of differences. > But the big one is I'm trying to do it right. So why do you need a file-based interface then ? ;-) Since this is a highly privileged operation anyway, you may as well trust user space to use the right data format ... I get the

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Eric W. Biederman wrote: There are a couple of differences. But the big one is I'm trying to do it right. So why do you need a file-based interface then ? ;-) Since this is a highly privileged operation anyway, you may as well trust user space to use the right data format ... I get the

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-13 Thread Erik Andersen
On Thu Nov 09, 2000 at 01:18:24AM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot > into another linux kernel. Looks very cool. I'm curious about your decision to use ELF images. This makes it much less conveinient to use due to the

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
"H. Peter Anvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Eric W. Biederman" wrote: > > > > Hmm. You must mean similiar to milo. > > > > Have fun. With linuxBIOS I'm working exactly the other way. Killing > > off the BIOS. And letting the initial firmware be just a boot loader. > > The reduction is

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread H. Peter Anvin
"Eric W. Biederman" wrote: > > Hmm. You must mean similiar to milo. > > Have fun. With linuxBIOS I'm working exactly the other way. Killing > off the BIOS. And letting the initial firmware be just a boot loader. > The reduction is complexity should make it more reliable. > ... except that

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Adam Lazur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Eric W. Biederman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > Michael Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This would rock. One place I can think of using it is with distro > > > installers. The installer boots a generic i386 kernel, and then installs > > > an

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Adam Lazur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Eric W. Biederman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot > > into another linux kernel. With the code freeze it appears > > inappropriate to submit it at this time. > > Aside from what looks

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
"H. Peter Anvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric W. Biederman) > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > > > > > The interface is designed to be simple and inflexible yet very > > > > powerful. To that end the code just

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Adam Lazur
Eric W. Biederman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > Michael Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This would rock. One place I can think of using it is with distro > > installers. The installer boots a generic i386 kernel, and then installs > > an optimized (i.e, PIII, etc.) kernel for run-time. >

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Adam Lazur
Eric W. Biederman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot > into another linux kernel. With the code freeze it appears > inappropriate to submit it at this time. Aside from what looks to be support for SMP, how does this differ from the

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric W. Biederman) In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > > > The interface is designed to be simple and inflexible yet very > > > powerful. To that end the code just takes an elf binary, and a > > > command line. The started

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Michael Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Eric W. Biederman" wrote: > > > > I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot > > into another linux kernel. > > This would rock. One place I can think of using it is with distro > installers. The installer boots a

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Michael Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Eric W. Biederman" wrote: I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot into another linux kernel. This would rock. One place I can think of using it is with distro installers. The installer boots a generic i386

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric W. Biederman) In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel The interface is designed to be simple and inflexible yet very powerful. To that end the code just takes an elf binary, and a command line. The started image also

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Adam Lazur
Eric W. Biederman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot into another linux kernel. With the code freeze it appears inappropriate to submit it at this time. Aside from what looks to be support for SMP, how does this differ from the two

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Adam Lazur
Eric W. Biederman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Michael Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This would rock. One place I can think of using it is with distro installers. The installer boots a generic i386 kernel, and then installs an optimized (i.e, PIII, etc.) kernel for run-time. This

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
"H. Peter Anvin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Followup to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric W. Biederman) In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel The interface is designed to be simple and inflexible yet very powerful. To that end the code just takes an elf binary,

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Adam Lazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric W. Biederman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Michael Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This would rock. One place I can think of using it is with distro installers. The installer boots a generic i386 kernel, and then installs an optimized (i.e,

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Adam Lazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric W. Biederman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot into another linux kernel. With the code freeze it appears inappropriate to submit it at this time. Aside from what looks to be

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread H. Peter Anvin
"Eric W. Biederman" wrote: Hmm. You must mean similiar to milo. Have fun. With linuxBIOS I'm working exactly the other way. Killing off the BIOS. And letting the initial firmware be just a boot loader. The reduction is complexity should make it more reliable. ... except that you

Re: Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-11 Thread Eric W. Biederman
"H. Peter Anvin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Eric W. Biederman" wrote: Hmm. You must mean similiar to milo. Have fun. With linuxBIOS I'm working exactly the other way. Killing off the BIOS. And letting the initial firmware be just a boot loader. The reduction is complexity

Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-09 Thread Eric W. Biederman
I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot into another linux kernel. With the code freeze it appears inappropriate to submit it at this time. Linus in principal do you have any trouble with this kind of functionality? The immediate applications of this code, are:

Q: Linux rebooting directly into linux.

2000-11-09 Thread Eric W. Biederman
I have recently developed a patch that allows linux to directly boot into another linux kernel. With the code freeze it appears inappropriate to submit it at this time. Linus in principal do you have any trouble with this kind of functionality? The immediate applications of this code, are: