Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Vitaly Luban wrote: > Dan Hollis wrote: > > Easy for ethernet where you have shared media and switches, but what about > > ptp synchronous serial lines? Oh dear thats a problem isnt it 8) > Not, if one have two USARTs, receivers paralleled & syncronized, transmitters >

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Vitaly Luban
Dan Hollis wrote: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Vitaly Luban wrote: > > One may have cPCI configuration with two or more NICs on each side > > of the router, with dynamic IP reallocation and hotswap that's make sense > > IMHO. > > Easy for ethernet where you have shared media and switches, but what

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Vitaly Luban wrote: > Dan Hollis wrote: > > Alan, you want an ISP to configure identical machines for linux routers > > just so they can hotswap NICs? What have you been putting in your tea > > lately 8) > [...] > One may have cPCI configuration with two or more NICs on each

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Vitaly Luban
Dan Hollis wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > I'd disagree on the ISP thing too btw. Telcos care a lot about hotswap PCI, > > but ISP services you can take a down box with a failover of a machine - > > which in general is a lot easier and overall better coverage > > Alan, you want

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Alan Cox
> Yes you can failover your mail server, but your core linux routers are > another story and thats where hotswap really counts. Customers can > tolerate short mailserver outages but they cant tolerate short router > outages. Then they shouldnt be using the internet for a few more years ;) I see

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Alan Cox
Yes you can failover your mail server, but your core linux routers are another story and thats where hotswap really counts. Customers can tolerate short mailserver outages but they cant tolerate short router outages. Then they shouldnt be using the internet for a few more years ;) I see

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Vitaly Luban
Dan Hollis wrote: On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: I'd disagree on the ISP thing too btw. Telcos care a lot about hotswap PCI, but ISP services you can take a down box with a failover of a machine - which in general is a lot easier and overall better coverage Alan, you want an ISP

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Vitaly Luban wrote: Dan Hollis wrote: Alan, you want an ISP to configure identical machines for linux routers just so they can hotswap NICs? What have you been putting in your tea lately 8) [...] One may have cPCI configuration with two or more NICs on each side of

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Vitaly Luban
Dan Hollis wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Vitaly Luban wrote: One may have cPCI configuration with two or more NICs on each side of the router, with dynamic IP reallocation and hotswap that's make sense IMHO. Easy for ethernet where you have shared media and switches, but what about ptp

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-22 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Vitaly Luban wrote: Dan Hollis wrote: Easy for ethernet where you have shared media and switches, but what about ptp synchronous serial lines? Oh dear thats a problem isnt it 8) Not, if one have two USARTs, receivers paralleled syncronized, transmitters wired-OR and

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-21 Thread Dan Hollis
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > I'd disagree on the ISP thing too btw. Telcos care a lot about hotswap PCI, > but ISP services you can take a down box with a failover of a machine - > which in general is a lot easier and overall better coverage Alan, you want an ISP to configure identical

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-21 Thread Alan Cox
> } On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Adrian Cox wrote: > } > cPCI is PCI + hotswap. Most people seem to ignore the hotswap, except at > } > tradeshows. > } > } ISPs certainly don't ignore hotswap. Unfortunately, Linux does. :) :( > > PowerPC has hotswap for Motorola boards thanks to Johnnie Peters and Matt

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-21 Thread Alan Cox
} On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Adrian Cox wrote: } cPCI is PCI + hotswap. Most people seem to ignore the hotswap, except at } tradeshows. } } ISPs certainly don't ignore hotswap. Unfortunately, Linux does. :) :( PowerPC has hotswap for Motorola boards thanks to Johnnie Peters and Matt Porter.

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-21 Thread Dan Hollis
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: I'd disagree on the ISP thing too btw. Telcos care a lot about hotswap PCI, but ISP services you can take a down box with a failover of a machine - which in general is a lot easier and overall better coverage Alan, you want an ISP to configure identical

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Cort Dougan
} On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Adrian Cox wrote: } > cPCI is PCI + hotswap. Most people seem to ignore the hotswap, except at } > tradeshows. } } ISPs certainly don't ignore hotswap. Unfortunately, Linux does. :) :( PowerPC has hotswap for Motorola boards thanks to Johnnie Peters and Matt Porter. - To

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Adrian Cox wrote: > cPCI is PCI + hotswap. Most people seem to ignore the hotswap, except at > tradeshows. ISPs certainly don't ignore hotswap. Unfortunately, Linux does. :) :( -Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Adrian Cox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Am I right in assumming that 2.2.14 (as from RH6.2) supports cPCI? Or do I > need to start developing on 2.4? > > I really do need to do some research into this, if I knew where to start. I > need some docs! (either paper, URL, or the straight-jacket kind) cPCI is PCI

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Vitaly Luban
Ondrej Feela Filip wrote: > On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Am I right in assumming that 2.2.14 (as from RH6.2) supports cPCI? Or do I > > need to start developing on 2.4? > > ? I believe, that PCI and cPCI are from SW view identical. I run linux > (2.2.13+) on many cPCI

RE: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Justin . Skists
Am I right in assumming that 2.2.14 (as from RH6.2) supports cPCI? Or do I need to start developing on 2.4? I really do need to do some research into this, if I knew where to start. I need some docs! (either paper, URL, or the straight-jacket kind) Justin. > -Original Message- > From:

RE: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Justin . Skists
Am I right in assumming that 2.2.14 (as from RH6.2) supports cPCI? Or do I need to start developing on 2.4? I really do need to do some research into this, if I knew where to start. I need some docs! (either paper, URL, or the straight-jacket kind) Justin. -Original Message- From:

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Vitaly Luban
Ondrej Feela Filip wrote: On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I right in assumming that 2.2.14 (as from RH6.2) supports cPCI? Or do I need to start developing on 2.4? ? I believe, that PCI and cPCI are from SW view identical. I run linux (2.2.13+) on many cPCI systems and it

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Adrian Cox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I right in assumming that 2.2.14 (as from RH6.2) supports cPCI? Or do I need to start developing on 2.4? I really do need to do some research into this, if I knew where to start. I need some docs! (either paper, URL, or the straight-jacket kind) cPCI is PCI +

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-20 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Adrian Cox wrote: cPCI is PCI + hotswap. Most people seem to ignore the hotswap, except at tradeshows. ISPs certainly don't ignore hotswap. Unfortunately, Linux does. :) :( -Dan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-18 Thread Russell King
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm about to embark on some compact-PCI driver development for Linux and I > was wondering where I can find some info. Is there any difference between > PCI and cPCI development on Linux? > > URLs would be great! Or, if this is the wrong list for driver development >

Re: cPCI development

2000-09-18 Thread Russell King
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to embark on some compact-PCI driver development for Linux and I was wondering where I can find some info. Is there any difference between PCI and cPCI development on Linux? URLs would be great! Or, if this is the wrong list for driver development