Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-19 Thread Tsugikazu Shibata
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:24:07 +0800, leo wrote: (snip) > Here is the helper process I propose to help more people to participate. > Suggestions and comments are welcomed. I think this seems mostly good. I will try to comment a bit. > 1) Developer who can't speak English or has a problem going

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-19 Thread Tsugikazu Shibata
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:24:07 +0800, leo wrote: (snip) Here is the helper process I propose to help more people to participate. Suggestions and comments are welcomed. I think this seems mostly good. I will try to comment a bit. 1) Developer who can't speak English or has a problem going

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-17 Thread Rob Landley
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 12:24:07 pm Li Yang wrote: > Here is the helper process I propose to help more people to participate. > Suggestions and comments are welcomed. > > 1) Developer who can't speak English or has a problem going through the > submission process sends patches to the Language

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-17 Thread Li Yang
Tsugikazu Shibata wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:42:07 +0800, leo wrote: On 7/14/07, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 13 July 2007 8:43:03 am Li Yang wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel,

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-17 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
> Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> preferred. Moreover, technical education is completely in English. I don't >> see much value in translating developer documentation into Indian >> languages. User documentation is another story. > I am not convinced that users do not become

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-17 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: preferred. Moreover, technical education is completely in English. I don't see much value in translating developer documentation into Indian languages. User documentation is another story. I am not convinced that users do not become developers, nor that

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-17 Thread Li Yang
Tsugikazu Shibata wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:42:07 +0800, leo wrote: On 7/14/07, Rob Landley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 13 July 2007 8:43:03 am Li Yang wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-17 Thread Rob Landley
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 12:24:07 pm Li Yang wrote: Here is the helper process I propose to help more people to participate. Suggestions and comments are welcomed. 1) Developer who can't speak English or has a problem going through the submission process sends patches to the Language

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-16 Thread Alan Cox
> preferred. Moreover, technical education is completely in English. I don't > see much value in translating developer documentation into Indian > languages. User documentation is another story. I am not convinced that users do not become developers, nor that we should have language barriers

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-16 Thread Dr. Keith G. Bowden
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Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-16 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
> Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That aside, please remember that Europe as a whole is a small place on the > bigger world stage. The total volume of potential developers in the huge > and rapidly modernising nations like India and China is vast, and there > are large highly skilled

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-16 Thread Ganesan Rajagopal
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That aside, please remember that Europe as a whole is a small place on the bigger world stage. The total volume of potential developers in the huge and rapidly modernising nations like India and China is vast, and there are large highly skilled technical

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-16 Thread Dr. Keith G. Bowden
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Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Tsugikazu Shibata wrote: > > Yes, In Japan, situation is mostly the same. > We are trying to increase number of Linux community developer with > Linux Foundation Japan or CELF people in Japan. > In our discussion, the problem is not only Language. > > In case of some developer, once he step

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Tsugikazu Shibata
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:42:07 +0800, leo wrote: > On 7/14/07, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 13 July 2007 8:43:03 am Li Yang wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: > > > > +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written in > > >

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/15/2007 08:12 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote: Li Yang wrote: I think you worried too much about this problem. :) Let me explain the situation here in China more clearly. Actually, English is mandatory in most schools and universities. Only very few people learn other language as a second

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Rik van Riel
H. Peter Anvin wrote: Alan Cox wrote: Key documents in other languages is a big help, especially those about values, culture and standards because they are things that are not easy to understand if your use of English is technically oriented. In that sense, a translation of "Linux Kernel

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Alan Cox wrote: > O> Actually, I disagree. English *is* the second language learned in >> school for most European developers (except, obviously, the ones from >> the British isles), and we don't have that problem. > > Not all those from the British Isles. A first language an English as > school

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Li Yang
On 7/16/07, H. Peter Anvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Li Yang wrote: > > I think you worried too much about this problem. :) Let me explain > the situation here in China more clearly. Actually, English is > mandatory in most schools and universities. Only very few people > learn other

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Alan Cox
O> Actually, I disagree. English *is* the second language learned in > school for most European developers (except, obviously, the ones from > the British isles), and we don't have that problem. Not all those from the British Isles. A first language an English as school language is not that

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Li Yang wrote: > > I think you worried too much about this problem. :) Let me explain > the situation here in China more clearly. Actually, English is > mandatory in most schools and universities. Only very few people > learn other language as a second language. Therefore software >

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Li Yang
On 7/14/07, Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 13 July 2007 8:43:03 am Li Yang wrote: > On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: > > +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written in C, > > from +authors who do not also speak English. The language

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Li Yang
On 7/14/07, Rob Landley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 13 July 2007 8:43:03 am Li Yang wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written in C, from +authors who do not also speak English. The language

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Li Yang wrote: I think you worried too much about this problem. :) Let me explain the situation here in China more clearly. Actually, English is mandatory in most schools and universities. Only very few people learn other language as a second language. Therefore software developers who

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Alan Cox
O Actually, I disagree. English *is* the second language learned in school for most European developers (except, obviously, the ones from the British isles), and we don't have that problem. Not all those from the British Isles. A first language an English as school language is not that

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Li Yang
On 7/16/07, H. Peter Anvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Li Yang wrote: I think you worried too much about this problem. :) Let me explain the situation here in China more clearly. Actually, English is mandatory in most schools and universities. Only very few people learn other language as a

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Alan Cox wrote: O Actually, I disagree. English *is* the second language learned in school for most European developers (except, obviously, the ones from the British isles), and we don't have that problem. Not all those from the British Isles. A first language an English as school language

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Rik van Riel
H. Peter Anvin wrote: Alan Cox wrote: Key documents in other languages is a big help, especially those about values, culture and standards because they are things that are not easy to understand if your use of English is technically oriented. In that sense, a translation of Linux Kernel

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Rene Herman
On 07/15/2007 08:12 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote: Li Yang wrote: I think you worried too much about this problem. :) Let me explain the situation here in China more clearly. Actually, English is mandatory in most schools and universities. Only very few people learn other language as a second

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread Tsugikazu Shibata
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:42:07 +0800, leo wrote: On 7/14/07, Rob Landley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 13 July 2007 8:43:03 am Li Yang wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written in C, from

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-15 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Tsugikazu Shibata wrote: Yes, In Japan, situation is mostly the same. We are trying to increase number of Linux community developer with Linux Foundation Japan or CELF people in Japan. In our discussion, the problem is not only Language. In case of some developer, once he step forward (he

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-13 Thread Rob Landley
On Friday 13 July 2007 8:43:03 am Li Yang wrote: > On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: > > Proposed patch adding Li Yang to MAINTAINERS, and Documentation > > describing what a language maintainer is. > > > > Signed-off-by: Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Signed-off-by: Li

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-13 Thread Rob Landley
On Thursday 12 July 2007 4:02:47 pm Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ > > +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. > > +(Note that Linus Torvalds' native language is Swedish, yet he chose > > choose? I was trying for past tense. > > +A language

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-13 Thread Li Yang
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: > Proposed patch adding Li Yang to MAINTAINERS, and Documentation > describing what a language maintainer is. > > Signed-off-by: Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Signed-off-by: Li Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -- > > On Thursday 12 July 2007

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Pavel Machek wrote: > > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ > > +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. > > +(Note that Linus Torvalds' native language is Swedish, yet he chose > > choose? >From `dict choose': Choose \Choose\, v. t. [imp. {Chose}; p. p.

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-13 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Pavel Machek wrote: @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. +(Note that Linus Torvalds' native language is Swedish, yet he chose choose? From `dict choose': Choose \Choose\, v. t. [imp. {Chose}; p. p. {Chosen},

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-13 Thread Li Yang
On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: Proposed patch adding Li Yang to MAINTAINERS, and Documentation describing what a language maintainer is. Signed-off-by: Rob Landley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by: Li Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- On Thursday 12 July 2007 9:53:54 am

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-13 Thread Rob Landley
On Thursday 12 July 2007 4:02:47 pm Pavel Machek wrote: Hi! @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. +(Note that Linus Torvalds' native language is Swedish, yet he chose choose? I was trying for past tense. +A language maintainer

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-13 Thread Rob Landley
On Friday 13 July 2007 8:43:03 am Li Yang wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-12 at 12:05 -0400, Rob Landley wrote: Proposed patch adding Li Yang to MAINTAINERS, and Documentation describing what a language maintainer is. Signed-off-by: Rob Landley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signed-off-by: Li Yang [EMAIL

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-12 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ > +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. > +(Note that Linus Torvalds' native language is Swedish, yet he chose choose? > +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written in C, from > +authors who do not also speak

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-12 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Rob Landley wrote: > --- /dev/null 2007-04-23 11:59:00.0 -0400 > +++ linux-2.6/Documentation/language-maintainers.txt 2007-07-12 > 11:49:20.0 -0400 > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ > +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. ^

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-12 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007, Rob Landley wrote: --- /dev/null 2007-04-23 11:59:00.0 -0400 +++ linux-2.6/Documentation/language-maintainers.txt 2007-07-12 11:49:20.0 -0400 @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. ^

Re: [PATCH] Chinese Language Maintainer

2007-07-12 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@ +The langauges in which the Linux kernel is developed are C and English. +(Note that Linus Torvalds' native language is Swedish, yet he chose choose? +A language maintainer accepts patches to the Linux kernel, written in C, from +authors who do not also speak English.