Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-16 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 14:31, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Denys Vlasenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm with Al on this. 50 Mb for decompression? > > Embedded and small device folks will not love this, I'm sure. > > How often do you unpack the kernel sources on an embedded device? :)

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-16 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 16 2007 14:19, Denys Vlasenko wrote: >Sizes in Kb again: > >32392 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z >33520 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.lzma > >P.S. sorting files by extension in tarball generally helps, but in case >of Linux kernel, they are all C code anyway, so no measurable gain there. Extension is not

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-16 Thread Andreas Schwab
Denys Vlasenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm with Al on this. 50 Mb for decompression? > Embedded and small device folks will not love this, I'm sure. How often do you unpack the kernel sources on an embedded device? :) Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-16 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Sunday 14 October 2007 21:58, Justin Piszcz wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Al Viro wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 09:46:15PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >> (Obviously we shall pick .7z) > > > > The hell it is. Take a look at memory footprint of those suckers... > > For compression

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-16 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Sunday 14 October 2007 21:58, Justin Piszcz wrote: On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Al Viro wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 09:46:15PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: (Obviously we shall pick .7z) The hell it is. Take a look at memory footprint of those suckers... For compression with -mx=9 it

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-16 Thread Andreas Schwab
Denys Vlasenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm with Al on this. 50 Mb for decompression? Embedded and small device folks will not love this, I'm sure. How often do you unpack the kernel sources on an embedded device? :) Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-16 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 16 2007 14:19, Denys Vlasenko wrote: Sizes in Kb again: 32392 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z 33520 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.lzma P.S. sorting files by extension in tarball generally helps, but in case of Linux kernel, they are all C code anyway, so no measurable gain there. Extension is not all so

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-16 Thread Denys Vlasenko
On Tuesday 16 October 2007 14:31, Andreas Schwab wrote: Denys Vlasenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm with Al on this. 50 Mb for decompression? Embedded and small device folks will not love this, I'm sure. How often do you unpack the kernel sources on an embedded device? :) Oops. I

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 16:58, Justin Piszcz wrote: compress: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 10544 war 20 0 700m 681m 1632 S 141 20.7 1:41.46 7z Just how you can utilize a CPU to 141% remains a mystery.. [

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 14 2007 16:58, Justin Piszcz wrote: > > compress: > PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND > 10544 war 20 0 700m 681m 1632 S 141 20.7 1:41.46 7z Just how you can utilize a CPU to 141% remains a mystery.. [ to be noted this is sqrt(2)*100 ] - To

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Al Viro wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 09:46:15PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: (Obviously we shall pick .7z) The hell it is. Take a look at memory footprint of those suckers... For compression with -mx=9 it does use 500-900 MiB of RAM, that is true. For

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Al Viro
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 09:46:15PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > (Obviously we shall pick .7z) The hell it is. Take a look at memory footprint of those suckers... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 15:53, Justin Piszcz wrote: What's with all these odd formats, and where is .zip? :) Somehow... have you tried lrzip? $ apt-cache search lrzip $ I tried most of the main ones in the standard testing distribution within Debian.

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 14 2007 15:53, Justin Piszcz wrote: >> >> What's with all these odd formats, and where is .zip? :) >> Somehow... have you tried lrzip? > $ apt-cache search lrzip > $ > > I tried most of the main ones in the standard testing distribution within > Debian. Debian is not a solution to

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 15:34, Justin Piszcz wrote: It turns out the one I did not test, was actually the best: Used: 7z -mx=9 a linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z linux-2.6.16.17.tar $ du -sk * | sort -n 32392 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z 33520 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.lzma

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 14 2007 15:34, Justin Piszcz wrote: > > It turns out the one I did not test, was actually the best: > > Used: 7z -mx=9 a linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z linux-2.6.16.17.tar > > $ du -sk * | sort -n > 32392 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z > 33520 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.lzma > 33760 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.rar >

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 14 2007 15:34, Justin Piszcz wrote: It turns out the one I did not test, was actually the best: Used: 7z -mx=9 a linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z linux-2.6.16.17.tar $ du -sk * | sort -n 32392 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z 33520 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.lzma 33760 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.rar 38064

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 15:34, Justin Piszcz wrote: It turns out the one I did not test, was actually the best: Used: 7z -mx=9 a linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z linux-2.6.16.17.tar $ du -sk * | sort -n 32392 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.7z 33520 linux-2.6.16.17.tar.lzma

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 14 2007 15:53, Justin Piszcz wrote: What's with all these odd formats, and where is .zip? :) Somehow... have you tried lrzip? $ apt-cache search lrzip $ I tried most of the main ones in the standard testing distribution within Debian. Debian is not a solution to everything.

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 15:53, Justin Piszcz wrote: What's with all these odd formats, and where is .zip? :) Somehow... have you tried lrzip? $ apt-cache search lrzip $ I tried most of the main ones in the standard testing distribution within Debian.

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Al Viro
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 09:46:15PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: (Obviously we shall pick .7z) The hell it is. Take a look at memory footprint of those suckers... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Al Viro wrote: On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 09:46:15PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: (Obviously we shall pick .7z) The hell it is. Take a look at memory footprint of those suckers... For compression with -mx=9 it does use 500-900 MiB of RAM, that is true. For

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Oct 14 2007 16:58, Justin Piszcz wrote: compress: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 10544 war 20 0 700m 681m 1632 S 141 20.7 1:41.46 7z Just how you can utilize a CPU to 141% remains a mystery.. [ to be noted this is sqrt(2)*100 ] - To

Re: In response to kernel compression e-mail a few months ago.

2007-10-14 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Oct 14 2007 16:58, Justin Piszcz wrote: compress: PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 10544 war 20 0 700m 681m 1632 S 141 20.7 1:41.46 7z Just how you can utilize a CPU to 141% remains a mystery.. [