Hi guys,
I've read the discussion, I think I understand the problem and I'll
get back to this thread with more information as soon as I've got some
internal feedback.
BTW, lovely to see so many MX Anywhere 2 users :)
-nestor
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 6:48 PM Harry Cutts wrote:
>
> Thanks for
Hi guys,
I've read the discussion, I think I understand the problem and I'll
get back to this thread with more information as soon as I've got some
internal feedback.
BTW, lovely to see so many MX Anywhere 2 users :)
-nestor
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 6:48 PM Harry Cutts wrote:
>
> Thanks for
Thanks for the analysis, Peter.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 23:27, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> IMO this is a lost battle because you cannot know when the ratchet is
> enabled or not (at least not on all mice). Users switch between ratchet and
> freewheeling time and once you're out of one mode, you have
Thanks for the analysis, Peter.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 23:27, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> IMO this is a lost battle because you cannot know when the ratchet is
> enabled or not (at least not on all mice). Users switch between ratchet and
> freewheeling time and once you're out of one mode, you have
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 11:27 PM Peter Hutterer
wrote:
>
> Other issues I found with an MX Anywhere 2S is that on slow scroll and in
> ratchet mode we get some scroll jitter. In ratchet mode we can get this
> sequence if you scroll just past the notch and it snaps back:
> [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 11:27 PM Peter Hutterer
wrote:
>
> Other issues I found with an MX Anywhere 2S is that on slow scroll and in
> ratchet mode we get some scroll jitter. In ratchet mode we can get this
> sequence if you scroll just past the notch and it snaps back:
> [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
Em Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:08:31 -0700
Linus Torvalds escreveu:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:13 PM Linus Torvalds
> wrote:
> >
> > So the recent change to enable the high-res scrolling really seems a
> > bit *too* extreme.
> >
> > Is there some middle ground that turns the mouse from "look at it
>
Em Sun, 28 Oct 2018 14:08:31 -0700
Linus Torvalds escreveu:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:13 PM Linus Torvalds
> wrote:
> >
> > So the recent change to enable the high-res scrolling really seems a
> > bit *too* extreme.
> >
> > Is there some middle ground that turns the mouse from "look at it
>
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:03:54PM -0700, Harry Cutts wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 15:01, Linus Torvalds
> wrote:
> > That would work, yes.
>
> OK, I'll write a patch for this. (It may be next week, though, as I
> have a deadline on a separate project this week.)
>
> > Except I think you
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:03:54PM -0700, Harry Cutts wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 15:01, Linus Torvalds
> wrote:
> > That would work, yes.
>
> OK, I'll write a patch for this. (It may be next week, though, as I
> have a deadline on a separate project this week.)
>
> > Except I think you
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 15:01, Linus Torvalds
wrote:
> That would work, yes.
OK, I'll write a patch for this. (It may be next week, though, as I
have a deadline on a separate project this week.)
> Except I think you *do* want the "reset on direction change" logic,
> because otherwise we still
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 15:01, Linus Torvalds
wrote:
> That would work, yes.
OK, I'll write a patch for this. (It may be next week, though, as I
have a deadline on a separate project this week.)
> Except I think you *do* want the "reset on direction change" logic,
> because otherwise we still
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:42 PM Harry Cutts wrote:
>
> Ah, I see what you mean. So, if we move the threshold to (multiplier -
> 1)/multiplier (7/8) in this case, I think the equivalent scenario
> would be:
That would work, yes.
Except I think you *do* want the "reset on direction change" logic,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 2:42 PM Harry Cutts wrote:
>
> Ah, I see what you mean. So, if we move the threshold to (multiplier -
> 1)/multiplier (7/8) in this case, I think the equivalent scenario
> would be:
That would work, yes.
Except I think you *do* want the "reset on direction change" logic,
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 14:12, Linus Torvalds
> So what the half-multiplier did, assuming a multiplier of 8 (which is
> what my MX Anywhere 2S reports) would be:
>
> - remainder starts at 3
> - high-res is +1
> - now remainder is 3+1, and it triggers the >= half logic
> - 4/8 is 0, but then
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 14:12, Linus Torvalds
> So what the half-multiplier did, assuming a multiplier of 8 (which is
> what my MX Anywhere 2S reports) would be:
>
> - remainder starts at 3
> - high-res is +1
> - now remainder is 3+1, and it triggers the >= half logic
> - 4/8 is 0, but then
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:17 PM Harry Cutts wrote:
>
> I don't really understand why the half-multiplier thing would cause
> the instability; there's still a low-res threshold every 8 high-res
> units whichever way you do it
No there isn't.
So what the half-multiplier did, assuming a
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:17 PM Harry Cutts wrote:
>
> I don't really understand why the half-multiplier thing would cause
> the instability; there's still a low-res threshold every 8 high-res
> units whichever way you do it
No there isn't.
So what the half-multiplier did, assuming a
As I explained in the comments, the reason for triggering at the half
multiplier point and then setting a negative remainder is to cater for
wheels that sometimes rest just before they complete a whole "notch"
in clicky mode. On those mice, setting the threshold at a full notch
means that you
As I explained in the comments, the reason for triggering at the half
multiplier point and then setting a negative remainder is to cater for
wheels that sometimes rest just before they complete a whole "notch"
in clicky mode. On those mice, setting the threshold at a full notch
means that you
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 8:16 AM Linus Torvalds
wrote:
>
> Patch I'm using attached. I'm inclined to just commit it, but if
> somebody has a better idea, I can test alternatives too.
I committed my patch, as it at least makes the scroll wheel usable.
I'm more than open to further improvements,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 8:16 AM Linus Torvalds
wrote:
>
> Patch I'm using attached. I'm inclined to just commit it, but if
> somebody has a better idea, I can test alternatives too.
I committed my patch, as it at least makes the scroll wheel usable.
I'm more than open to further improvements,
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:18 AM Jiri Kosina wrote:
>
> Benjamin indicated that Peter probably has found the issue in the code
> (failure to properly reset on direction change) that might be causing
> this.
So honestly, once I looked at that hid_scroll_counter_handle_scroll()
function, that's the
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 6:18 AM Jiri Kosina wrote:
>
> Benjamin indicated that Peter probably has found the issue in the code
> (failure to properly reset on direction change) that might be causing
> this.
So honestly, once I looked at that hid_scroll_counter_handle_scroll()
function, that's the
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So I use a Logitech MX Anywhere 2S mouse, and really like it. I have
> the scroll-wheel unlocked, because I like flicking once to scroll a
> lot.
>
> However, the new high-res scroll code means that the scroll wheel
> action is now much too sensitive.
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> So I use a Logitech MX Anywhere 2S mouse, and really like it. I have
> the scroll-wheel unlocked, because I like flicking once to scroll a
> lot.
>
> However, the new high-res scroll code means that the scroll wheel
> action is now much too sensitive.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:13 PM Linus Torvalds
wrote:
>
> So the recent change to enable the high-res scrolling really seems a
> bit *too* extreme.
>
> Is there some middle ground that turns the mouse from "look at it
> sideways and it starts scrolling" to something slightly more
> reasonable?
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:13 PM Linus Torvalds
wrote:
>
> So the recent change to enable the high-res scrolling really seems a
> bit *too* extreme.
>
> Is there some middle ground that turns the mouse from "look at it
> sideways and it starts scrolling" to something slightly more
> reasonable?
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