Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
>
> Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms?
>
> Does it use KNI if it can, for example? We used to
Linus Torvalds wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms?
Does it use KNI if it can, for example? We used to have a problem
On Sun, Jan 28 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >
> > How about this instead?
>
> I really don't like this one. It will basically re-introduce the old
> behaviour of waking people up in a trickle, as far as I can tell. The
> reason we want the batching is
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
>
> How about this instead?
I really don't like this one. It will basically re-introduce the old
behaviour of waking people up in a trickle, as far as I can tell. The
reason we want the batching is to make people have more requests to sort
in the
On Sun, Jan 28 2001, Lorenzo Allegrucci wrote:
> >Ho humm. Jens: imagine that you have more people waiting for requests than
> >"batchcount". Further, imagine that you have multiple requests finishing
> >at the same time. Not unlikely. Now, imagine that one request finishes,
> >and causes
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>
> Why dont you just put set_page_dirty() back in page_launder() in case
> writepage() fails?
Because a EIO or similar should _not_ be re-tried or kept dirty.
Imagine a bad user that goes over his quota on purpose, and then every
single write will
At 15.40 27/01/01 -0800, you wrote:
>
>
>On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Lorenzo Allegrucci wrote:
>>
>> A trivial "while(1) fork()" is enough to trigger it.
>> "mem=32M" by lilo, ulimit -u is 1024.
>
>Hmm.. This does not look like a VM deadlock - it looks like some IO
>request is waiting forever on
On 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
>
> Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms?
>
> Does it use KNI if it can, for
On 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms?
Does it use KNI if it can, for example? We used to
At 15.40 27/01/01 -0800, you wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Lorenzo Allegrucci wrote:
A trivial "while(1) fork()" is enough to trigger it.
"mem=32M" by lilo, ulimit -u is 1024.
Hmm.. This does not look like a VM deadlock - it looks like some IO
request is waiting forever on
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
Why dont you just put set_page_dirty() back in page_launder() in case
writepage() fails?
Because a EIO or similar should _not_ be re-tried or kept dirty.
Imagine a bad user that goes over his quota on purpose, and then every
single write will
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
How about this instead?
I really don't like this one. It will basically re-introduce the old
behaviour of waking people up in a trickle, as far as I can tell. The
reason we want the batching is to make people have more requests to sort
in the elevator,
On Sun, Jan 28 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
How about this instead?
I really don't like this one. It will basically re-introduce the old
behaviour of waking people up in a trickle, as far as I can tell. The
reason we want the batching is to make
Patch appears to work,
for i in [0-9]*; do echo $i; cat $i/stat > /dev/null; done
completes successfully with xmms running in "real-time" priority.
Shawn.
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > >
> > >
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is the smoking gun here, I bet, but I'd like to make sure I see the
> > > > whole thing. I don't see _why_ we'd have
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > >
> > > This is the smoking gun here, I bet, but I'd like to make sure I see the
> > > whole thing. I don't see _why_ we'd have deadlocked on __wait_on_page(),
> > > but I think this is the
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> >
> > This is the smoking gun here, I bet, but I'd like to make sure I see the
> > whole thing. I don't see _why_ we'd have deadlocked on __wait_on_page(),
> > but I think this is the thread that hangs on to the mm semaphore.
>
> I was able to
(ugh, sorry about last mail)
On 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Unfortunately klogd reads /procerg.
> >
> >So the following is a painstakingly slow hand translation, I'll only print
> >the D state entries unless
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > What was the trace of this? Just curious, the below case outlined by
> > > Linus should be pretty generic, but I'd still like to know what
> > > can lead to this condition.
> >
> > It was posted on
> Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms?
>
> Does it use KNI if it can, for example? We used to have a problem
> with KNI+Athlons, for example.
No, it doesn't.
> It might also be that it's threading-related, and that XMMS is one
> of the few things that uses threads.
On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > What was the trace of this? Just curious, the below case outlined by
> > Linus should be pretty generic, but I'd still like to know what
> > can lead to this condition.
>
> It was posted on linux-kernel - I don't save the dang things because I
>
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >
> > So what happens is that somebody takes a page fault (and gets the mm
> > lock), tries to read something in, and never gets anything back, thus
> > leaving the MM locked.
>
> What was the trace of this? Just curious, the below case outlined by
>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Unfortunately klogd reads /procerg.
>
>So the following is a painstakingly slow hand translation, I'll only print
>the D state entries unless someone asks otherwise.
You seem to be pretty much able to reproduce this at
yes, I should also mention I have also a SoundBlaster 32AWE (0MB on the daughterboard).
J Sloan wrote:
> OK, here's the details you asked about:
>
> Soundblaster Awe 32 sound card
> Voodoo 3 pci video card
> Running Xfree86-4.0.0 (rpms from 3dfx.com)
> Playing unreal tournament, no special game
OK, here's the details you asked about:
Soundblaster Awe 32 sound card
Voodoo 3 pci video card
Running Xfree86-4.0.0 (rpms from 3dfx.com)
Playing unreal tournament, no special game
options, just 800x600 graphics @ 16 bits.
To recap, the symptoms (hung ps, etc) occurred
on kernel 2.4.1-pre8 +
It is important to note that when I hit the magic key and rebooted (SUB), a
split second before it rebooted, a stalled 'lspci' snapped back to life and
printed out my expected data.
-d
--
There is a natural aristocracy among men. The grounds of this are virtue and
talents. Thomas Jefferson
On 2.4.0-ac12, I played music for about 30 minutes without any problems. I started up
an mpeg in xmms and it
locked in short order. I'm sure now that it has something to do with the graphics.
What DGA or other config
options do you have enabled for your game?
What video and sound card?
I
Unfortunately klogd reads /procerg.
So the following is a painstakingly slow hand translation, I'll only print
the D state entries unless someone asks otherwise.
Prior to this:
XMMS is running playing star wars mpeg. (regular user) (frozen)
TOP is running (regular user) (frozen)
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:42:45PM -0800, J Sloan wrote:
> But at least the sound card was in use, FWIW -
Not for me. My xmms was sitting idle when it froze.
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Sorry, there was no xmms involved here -
The behavior occurred while playing unreal tournament.
But at least the sound card was in use, FWIW -
jjs
David Ford wrote:
> We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
>
> -d
>
> J Sloan wrote:
>
> > Just for the record, the
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
>
> Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms?
Not sure.
> Does it use KNI if it can, for example? We
This system is the following:
AcerOPEN AP53/AX Motherboard, Intel Pentium 200Mhz w/o MMX (1996-1997)
Chipsets: 430HX, PIIX3 (EIDE)
64MB RAM EDO 60ns (Kingston brand)
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >We've narrowed it down
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms?
Does it use KNI if it can, for example? We used to have a problem with
KNI+Athlons, for
At the time I had temporary access to my notebook and had a mismatched System.map
file :S
-d
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
> >mpegs in xmms. It may take
We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
-d
J Sloan wrote:
> Just for the record, the system where I saw the problem
> has only ext2 -
--
There is a natural aristocracy among men. The grounds of this are virtue and
talents. Thomas Jefferson
The good thing about
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:33:42AM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote:
> Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
I don't.
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Just for the record, the system where I saw the problem
has only ext2 -
jjs
Shawn Starr wrote:
> Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
>
> David Ford wrote:
>
> > I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
> > mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
>mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.
>
>xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls. If I get
>the
I have not compiled or used reiserfs here yet.
compiling Mikes semaphore debug patch now and adding sysrq
- but this took three days to happen just once here.
..john
Shawn Starr wrote:
>
> Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
>
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Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
David Ford wrote:
> I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
> mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.
>
> xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls. If I get
> the time to do
I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.
xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls. If I get
the time to do it, I'll take a gander at it with kdb.
I have no patches applied to
I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.
xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls. If I get
the time to do it, I'll take a gander at it with kdb.
I have no patches applied to
Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
David Ford wrote:
I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.
xmms stalls flat on it's face and anything accessing /proc stalls. If I get
the time to do it,
I have not compiled or used reiserfs here yet.
compiling Mikes semaphore debug patch now and adding sysrq
- but this took three days to happen just once here.
..john
Shawn Starr wrote:
Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
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Just for the record, the system where I saw the problem
has only ext2 -
jjs
Shawn Starr wrote:
Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
David Ford wrote:
I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
mpegs in xmms. It may take a few minutes but it's guaranteed.
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:33:42AM -0500, Shawn Starr wrote:
Yes, I have ReiserFS as well...hrm...
I don't.
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At the time I had temporary access to my notebook and had a mismatched System.map
file :S
-d
Linus Torvalds wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can quickly and easily duplicate it on my notebook by playing music or
mpegs in xmms. It may take a few
This system is the following:
AcerOPEN AP53/AX Motherboard, Intel Pentium 200Mhz w/o MMX (1996-1997)
Chipsets: 430HX, PIIX3 (EIDE)
64MB RAM EDO 60ns (Kingston brand)
Linus Torvalds wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We've narrowed it down to "we're
Sorry, there was no xmms involved here -
The behavior occurred while playing unreal tournament.
But at least the sound card was in use, FWIW -
jjs
David Ford wrote:
We've narrowed it down to "we're all running xmms" when it happend.
-d
J Sloan wrote:
Just for the record, the system
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 04:42:45PM -0800, J Sloan wrote:
But at least the sound card was in use, FWIW -
Not for me. My xmms was sitting idle when it froze.
-
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Please read the FAQ
Unfortunately klogd reads /procerg.
So the following is a painstakingly slow hand translation, I'll only print
the D state entries unless someone asks otherwise.
Prior to this:
XMMS is running playing star wars mpeg. (regular user) (frozen)
TOP is running (regular user) (frozen)
On 2.4.0-ac12, I played music for about 30 minutes without any problems. I started up
an mpeg in xmms and it
locked in short order. I'm sure now that it has something to do with the graphics.
What DGA or other config
options do you have enabled for your game?
What video and sound card?
I
It is important to note that when I hit the magic key and rebooted (SUB), a
split second before it rebooted, a stalled 'lspci' snapped back to life and
printed out my expected data.
-d
--
There is a natural aristocracy among men. The grounds of this are virtue and
talents. Thomas Jefferson
OK, here's the details you asked about:
Soundblaster Awe 32 sound card
Voodoo 3 pci video card
Running Xfree86-4.0.0 (rpms from 3dfx.com)
Playing unreal tournament, no special game
options, just 800x600 graphics @ 16 bits.
To recap, the symptoms (hung ps, etc) occurred
on kernel 2.4.1-pre8 +
yes, I should also mention I have also a SoundBlaster 32AWE (0MB on the daughterboard).
J Sloan wrote:
OK, here's the details you asked about:
Soundblaster Awe 32 sound card
Voodoo 3 pci video card
Running Xfree86-4.0.0 (rpms from 3dfx.com)
Playing unreal tournament, no special game
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately klogd reads /procerg.
So the following is a painstakingly slow hand translation, I'll only print
the D state entries unless someone asks otherwise.
You seem to be pretty much able to reproduce this at will,
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
So what happens is that somebody takes a page fault (and gets the mm
lock), tries to read something in, and never gets anything back, thus
leaving the MM locked.
What was the trace of this? Just curious, the below case outlined by
Linus should
On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
What was the trace of this? Just curious, the below case outlined by
Linus should be pretty generic, but I'd still like to know what
can lead to this condition.
It was posted on linux-kernel - I don't save the dang things because I
have too
Does anybody have a clue about what is different with xmms?
Does it use KNI if it can, for example? We used to have a problem
with KNI+Athlons, for example.
No, it doesn't.
It might also be that it's threading-related, and that XMMS is one
of the few things that uses threads. Things like
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Jens Axboe wrote:
On Sat, Jan 27 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
What was the trace of this? Just curious, the below case outlined by
Linus should be pretty generic, but I'd still like to know what
can lead to this condition.
It was posted on linux-kernel - I
(ugh, sorry about last mail)
On 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately klogd reads /procerg.
So the following is a painstakingly slow hand translation, I'll only print
the D state entries unless someone asks
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
This is the smoking gun here, I bet, but I'd like to make sure I see the
whole thing. I don't see _why_ we'd have deadlocked on __wait_on_page(),
but I think this is the thread that hangs on to the mm semaphore.
I was able to reproduce it
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
This is the smoking gun here, I bet, but I'd like to make sure I see the
whole thing. I don't see _why_ we'd have deadlocked on __wait_on_page(),
but I think this is the thread that hangs
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
This is the smoking gun here, I bet, but I'd like to make sure I see the
whole thing. I don't see _why_ we'd have deadlocked on
Patch appears to work,
for i in [0-9]*; do echo $i; cat $i/stat /dev/null; done
completes successfully with xmms running in "real-time" priority.
Shawn.
Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
This is the
OK, It's official now, I didn't know if it was some
weird hardware fluke or something, but one of
the computers here exhibited the same problem -
The system in question is a Pentium II 400, scsi
only (aic7xxx), running 2.4.1-pre8 plus Andrew
Morton's low latency patches.
The user was playing
I noticed this problem in 2.4.1-pre8.
Odd, thats EXACLY what happened to me. I had to do a hard restart as killall
locked when i tried to kill ps.
Any word on why this is happening?
Aaron Lehmann wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 03:34:26PM +1100, John Sheahan wrote:
> > Hi
> > my box has
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 03:34:26PM +1100, John Sheahan wrote:
> Hi
> my box has been running 2.4.1-pre10 for three days.
> This morning I noticed odd behavioue - ps and top wouuld freeze
> with no output.
I had the same problem with 2.4.1-pre10 and the zerocopy patchset.
I came home one day and
Hi
my box has been running 2.4.1-pre10 for three days.
This morning I noticed odd behavioue - ps and top wouuld freeze
with no output.
running strace on 'ps'
open("/proc/669/environ", O_RDONLY) = 7
read(7, "INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.78\0previ"..., 2047) = 254
close(7)
Hi
my box has been running 2.4.1-pre10 for three days.
This morning I noticed odd behavioue - ps and top wouuld freeze
with no output.
running strace on 'ps'
open("/proc/669/environ", O_RDONLY) = 7
read(7, "INIT_VERSION=sysvinit-2.78\0previ"..., 2047) = 254
close(7)
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 03:34:26PM +1100, John Sheahan wrote:
Hi
my box has been running 2.4.1-pre10 for three days.
This morning I noticed odd behavioue - ps and top wouuld freeze
with no output.
I had the same problem with 2.4.1-pre10 and the zerocopy patchset.
I came home one day and
I noticed this problem in 2.4.1-pre8.
Odd, thats EXACLY what happened to me. I had to do a hard restart as killall
locked when i tried to kill ps.
Any word on why this is happening?
Aaron Lehmann wrote:
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 03:34:26PM +1100, John Sheahan wrote:
Hi
my box has been
OK, It's official now, I didn't know if it was some
weird hardware fluke or something, but one of
the computers here exhibited the same problem -
The system in question is a Pentium II 400, scsi
only (aic7xxx), running 2.4.1-pre8 plus Andrew
Morton's low latency patches.
The user was playing
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