Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:01 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 20:33 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > In a stunning turn of events, I've actually been able to make another -rc > > > release despite all the discussion

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 07:31:01PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Sunday, 17 June 2007 16:29, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:17:58PM +0200, Michal Piotrowski wrote: > > > On 17/06/07, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >... > > >> Fine with me, but: > > >> > > >>

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Daniel Hazelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 17 June 2007 09:54:39 Michael Poole wrote: >> What in the world makes you think there is a useful analogy >> between communication standards and copyright licenses? > I don't. I was *REPEATING* an example of how TiVO has a

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:18:17PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > where n is a number that needs to be determined (I think that n could be 3). > Well, "negative comments" should also be defined more precisely. ;-) I think that n should be a function of the number of accepted patches that this

Re: limits on raid

2007-06-17 Thread Wakko Warner
dean gaudet wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Wakko Warner wrote: > > > > i use an external write-intent bitmap on a raid1 to avoid this... you > > > could use internal bitmap but that slows down i/o too much for my tastes. > > > > > > i also use an external xfs journal for the same reason. 2

Random oops in Ubuntu 7.04 stock kernel (usb hotplug null pointer dereference).

2007-06-17 Thread Rob Landley
Noticed this in the log. The system's still running fine, I can only assume this happened when I unplugged my external USB disk after the cat knocked it on the floor. Quite possibly already fixed in kernel.org, but just for the record: cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.20-15-generic

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Sunday 17 June 2007 14:46:05 Michael Poole wrote: > Daniel Hazelton writes: > > On Sunday 17 June 2007 09:54:39 Michael Poole wrote: > >> Daniel Hazelton writes: > >> > But your server doesn't run the internet. TiVO may use phone lines to > >> > connect a device to their server (and this is an

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> >> > What I care about is that the GPLv3 is a _worse_license_ than GPLv2, >> >> Even though anti-tivoization furthers the quid-pro-quo spirit that you >> love about v2, and

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Daniel Hazelton
On Sunday 17 June 2007 15:32:34 Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 17, 2007, Daniel Hazelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sunday 17 June 2007 09:54:39 Michael Poole wrote: > >> What in the world makes you think there is a useful analogy > >> between communication standards and copyright

Re: limits on raid

2007-06-17 Thread dean gaudet
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Wakko Warner wrote: > What benefit would I gain by using an external journel and how big would it > need to be? i don't know how big the journal needs to be... i'm limited by xfs' maximum journal size of 128MiB. i don't have much benchmark data -- but here are some rough

Re: 2.6.22-rc5 regression

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:07:14PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > Out of curiousity, I'd like to see your lspci > (not -v or anything, just run with no args) $ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation P965/G965 Memory Controller Hub (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation P965/G965 PCI

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:07:14PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > Sometimes things fall through the cracks.. > I haven't heard any similar problems, which makes it somewhat odd. Ok. Well, the lockup is all to real here :p I suspect a memory corruption going on, as under certain circumstances there

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Stefan Richter
Carlo Wood wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:18:17PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: >> where n is a number that needs to be determined (I think that n could be 3). >> Well, "negative comments" should also be defined more precisely. ;-) > > I think that n should be a function of the number of

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
On 17/06/07, Stefan Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Carlo Wood wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:18:17PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: >> where n is a number that needs to be determined (I think that n could be 3). >> Well, "negative comments" should also be defined more precisely. ;-) >

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alan Cox
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:33:33 -0300 Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 17, 2007, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I don't know any law that requires tivoization. > > > In the USSA it is arguable that wireless might need it (if done in > > software) for certain

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Al Boldi
Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 17, 2007, "Gabor Czigola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I wonder why the linux kernel development community couldn't propose > > an own GPL draft (say v2.2) that is "as free as v2" and that includes > > some ideas (from v3) that are considered as good (free,

[PATCH 0/3] ACPI autoloading

2007-06-17 Thread Thomas Renninger
This patch series enables ACPI modules to get loaded automatically via module aliases. Thanks to Kay I got help with the udev strings and this got already some testing and review. There are some minor problems left, but this should be mm ready and it would be great if you can add these to your

[PATCH 1/3] ACPI autoloading - ACPICA adjustance

2007-06-17 Thread Thomas Renninger
Define standardized HIDs - Rename current acpi_device_id to __acpi_device_id Signed-off-by: Thomas Renninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- drivers/acpi/events/evrgnini.c|2 +- drivers/acpi/namespace/nsxfeval.c |2 +- drivers/acpi/utilities/uteval.c |4 ++-- include/acpi/acpi_bus.h

[PATCH 3/3] ACPI autoloading - Create __mod_acpi_device_table symbol for all acpi drivers.

2007-06-17 Thread Thomas Renninger
Create __mod_acpi_device_table symbol for all acpi drivers. modpost is going to use this one to create modules.alias Hopefully thinkpad module still works. IMO this one should get restructured and make use of acpi_bus_register_driver and try to avoid to test for HIDs/CIDs for its own.

Re: limits on raid

2007-06-17 Thread david
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Wakko Warner wrote: you can also easily move an ext3 journal to an external journal with tune2fs (see man page). I only have 2 ext3 file systems (One of which is mounted R/O since it's full), all my others are reiserfs (v3). What benefit would I gain by using an external

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Daniel Hazelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay. So they give everyone the right to change the software on the > box, but on connection replace the modified stuff with the official > versions. If I haven't modified it so as to stop them from doing so on my computer, that is

Re: limits on raid

2007-06-17 Thread david
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, dean gaudet wrote: On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Wakko Warner wrote: What benefit would I gain by using an external journel and how big would it need to be? i don't know how big the journal needs to be... i'm limited by xfs' maximum journal size of 128MiB. i don't have much

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:59:01PM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:07:14PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > Sometimes things fall through the cracks.. > > I haven't heard any similar problems, which makes it somewhat odd. > > Ok. Well, the lockup is all to real here :p >

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:33:33 -0300 > Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Jun 17, 2007, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> I don't know any law that requires tivoization. >> >> > In the USSA it is arguable that

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Under what circumstances would it be possible to receive permission for > modification? You have to ask the copyright holder. Affero did just that, and so the Affero GPL was born. Just don't assume the FSF will grant such permissions

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Michael Poole
Daniel Hazelton writes: > Okay. So they give everyone the right to change the software on the box, but > on connection replace the modified stuff with the official versions. Is that > still a copyright problem? Absolutely, positively no. Is the current > situation any different? Not that I can

[PATCH 2/3] ACPI autoloading - Create acpi alias interface

2007-06-17 Thread Thomas Renninger
Create acpi alias interface Modify modpost (file2alias.c) to add acpi*:XYZ0001: alias in modules.alias like: grep acpi /lib/modules/2.6.22-rc4-default/modules.alias alias acpi*:SNY5001:* sony_laptop alias acpi*:SNY6001:* sony_laptop for e.g. the sony_laptop module. This module matches against

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 15:55 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 17, 2007, "Gabor Czigola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I wonder why the linux kernel development community couldn't propose > > an own GPL draft (say v2.2) that is "as free as v2" and that includes > > some ideas (from v3)

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> >> One more time, I'm not talking about the license (the legal terms). > Ok. Then go away. > Everybody else just cares about the legal reasons. That's false, and the reason I know it is

Re: Problems with hda_intel, Santa Rosa, and suspend

2007-06-17 Thread Matt Mullins
I've been reading up on the Intel HD Audio specifications, and I found that the problem is most likely that the driver has to resort to PI/O (single_cmd) mode. I really haven't had enough time or experience to figure out what is actually causing this. This is the first time I've done any kernel

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Bernd Petrovitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 15:55 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> On Jun 17, 2007, "Gabor Czigola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > I wonder why the linux kernel development community couldn't propose >> > an own GPL draft (say v2.2)

Re: [PATCH] (Re: regression tracking (Re: Linux 2.6.21))

2007-06-17 Thread Oleg Verych
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:44:39AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Oleg Verych wrote: [] > >That's wrong if developers are tending to reply only one thing -- > >git-bisect. > > > >If things are going to be that bad, then better to start dealing with the > >cause, not

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:49:04PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > That's pretty bad corruption indeed. What I'm puzzling over though > is why other 965G users aren't seeing the same thing. > My own 965G seems to be fine, though that's using Intel graphics > instead of nvidia. > > (Just to rule it

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread david
you argue that it is evil for tivo to produce a pice of hardware that they can modify and the user can't but you then argue that it's a good thing for the FSF to produce a license that they can modify and others can't in the first case tivo is limiting their hardware, releases all the

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alan Cox
> > That accurately describes the FCC wireless rules. > > AFAIK the FCC mandates not permitting the user to tinker. It doesn't > mandate the vendor to retain this ability to itself. In practical terms it does since a recall/replacement in the event of rule changes is a bit impractical >

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 18:07 -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: [...] > However, as Ingo argued, not being able to patch holes, fix bugs and > add new features is a very bad idea. He was talking about the > software, but this is as true when it comes to the license. Yes, but the license of the license

Re: [Bug 8646] New: fw-ohci and ohci1394: panic in softirq, below smp_apic_timer_interrupt

2007-06-17 Thread Stefan Richter
For the lists: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8646 > >Summary: fw-ohci and ohci1394: panic in softirq, below > smp_apic_timer_interrupt >Product: Drivers >Version: 2.5 > KernelVersion: all >

[PATCH] Add new ICH9M pci id (8086:2850) to ata_piix id list

2007-06-17 Thread Maurizio Monge
To make ata_piix recognize my ich9m chip i had to apply the modification that follows. Best regards Maurizio Monge diff -Nurb old/drivers/ata/ata_piix.c new/drivers/ata/ata_piix.c --- old/drivers/ata/ata_piix.c 2007-06-17 23:06:12.0 +0200 +++ new/drivers/ata/ata_piix.c 2007-06-17

FS block count, size and seek offset?

2007-06-17 Thread David Brown
I was looking at various file systems and how they return stat.st_blocks and stat.st_size for directories and had some questions on how a fuse filesystem is supposed to implement readdir with the seek offset when trying to union two directories together. Is the offset a byte offset into the DIR

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:13:38PM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:49:04PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > That's pretty bad corruption indeed. What I'm puzzling over though > > is why other 965G users aren't seeing the same thing. > > My own 965G seems to be fine, though

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Sunday 17 June 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:53:41 +0200 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > IMO we should concentrate more on preventing regressions than on fixing > > them. > > In the long-term preventing bugs is cheaper than fixing

Re: [PATCH, 3rd try] make disable_console_suspend runtime configurable

2007-06-17 Thread Pavel Machek
On Fri 2007-06-15 00:20:28, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Thursday, 14 June 2007 15:59, Frank Seidel wrote: > > From: Stefan Seyfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I hate having to recompile the kernel, just to be able to debug suspend. > > Remove CONFIG_DISABLE_CONSOLE_SUSPEND, replace it by a

Re: [PATCH] Add new ICH9M pci id (8086:2850) to ata_piix id list

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
Hi, Maurizio Monge pisze: To make ata_piix recognize my ich9m chip i had to apply the modification that follows. Best regards Maurizio Monge diff -Nurb old/drivers/ata/ata_piix.c new/drivers/ata/ata_piix.c --- old/drivers/ata/ata_piix.c 2007-06-17 23:06:12.0 +0200 +++

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Jesper Juhl
On 17/06/07, Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Serious, what's so hard to understand about: no tivoization => more users able to tinker their formerly-tivoized computers => more users make useful modifications => more contributions in kind ? Sure, there's a downside

Please revert 21564fd2a3deb48200b595332f9ed4c9f311f2a7

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
Linus, please revert commit 21564fd2a3deb48200b595332f9ed4c9f311f2a7 It's not acceptable since illegal modules should definitely not get write access to paravirt_ops. Andi forwarded it although the following people had already NAK'ed it: - Christoph Hellwig [1] - Peter Zijlstra [2] - Alan Cox

Re: [BUG] long freezes on thinkpad t60

2007-06-17 Thread Miklos Szeredi
Chuck, Ingo, thanks for the responses. > > The pattern that emerges is that on CPU0 we have an interrupt, which > > is trying to acquire the rq lock, but can't. > > > > On CPU1 we have strace which is doing wait_task_inactive(), which sort > > of spins acquiring and releasing the rq lock.

[PATCH] ieee1394: nodemgr: parallelize between several hosts

2007-06-17 Thread Stefan Richter
Remove the global nodemgr_serialize mutex which enclosed most of the host thread event loop. This allows for parallelism between several host adapter cards. Properly serialize the driver hooks .update(), .suspend(), .resume(), and .remove() by means of device->sem. These hooks can be called

Re: 2.6.22-rc5 regression

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
Because I CC new people, let me summarize: 2.6.18 works fine. Most kernels after that print "agpgart: Detected an Intel 965G Chipset." and then either hang (I have to hard reset them), hard reset by themselves or print one or two more lines mostly related to hardcrashes (memory page faults or

Re: [Suspend-devel] [PATCH, 3rd try] make disable_console_suspend runtime configurable

2007-06-17 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > > I hate having to recompile the kernel, just to be able to debug suspend. > > > Remove CONFIG_DISABLE_CONSOLE_SUSPEND, replace it by a tunable in > > > /sys/power/disable_console_suspend. > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Stefan Seyfried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Signed-off-by: Frank

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 05:33:55PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > What would the name be of such module? > > intel-agp > > Though by the looks of things, with the working kernel, you don't have > it loaded (it's dependant upon the 'agpgart' module, which prints the > "Detected" line that was

Re: [PATCH 1/6] make pci_ids lowercase hexa

2007-06-17 Thread Greg KH
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:08:31AM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote: > Greg KH napsal(a): > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 05:44:52PM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote: > >> make pci_ids lowercase hexa > > > > Why? What good is this going to do in the long run? > > It's just cleanup to get rid of things like this: >

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jesper Juhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Let's say I'm the owner of a company selling some device that uses a >GPLv2 OS and some GPLv2 applications to do the job. Let's say that for >some reason I don't want the end users of my device to tinker with the >software inside my device.

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Al Boldi
Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Jun 17, 2007, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Under what circumstances would it be possible to receive permission for > > modification? > > You have to ask the copyright holder. > > Affero did just that, and so the Affero GPL was born. > > Just don't assume the

Re: Versioning file system

2007-06-17 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 11:17:58PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > > (Vax/VMS System Software Handbook) > > (TOPS-20 User's Manual) > > Also Files/11 And don't forget the really ground breaking work (for the time) done by the Xanadu folk. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 05:33:55PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > What would the name be of such module? > > intel-agp > > Though by the looks of things, with the working kernel, you don't have > it loaded (it's dependant upon the 'agpgart' module, which prints the > "Detected" line that was

[patch] use __asm__ and __volatile__ in i386/arm/s390 byteorder.h

2007-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
This changes asm() to __asm__() and volatile to __volatile__ so that these headers can be used with gcc's -std=c99. Signed-off-by: Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- diff --git a/include/asm-arm/byteorder.h b/include/asm-arm/byteorder.h index e6f7fcd..39105dc 100644 ---

[PATCH] clarify the GPL version of contributions by Jesper Juhl in CREDITS

2007-06-17 Thread Jesper Juhl
Just to make things clear in the light of recent discussions. Stuff I contribute to the Linux kernel are licensed under the terms of the GPL version 2. Signed-off-by: Jesper Juhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- CREDITS |1 + 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 05:33:55PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > intel-agp > > Though by the looks of things, with the working kernel, you don't have > it loaded (it's dependant upon the 'agpgart' module, which prints the > "Detected" line that was missing). You are wrong. 1) I don't have any

Re: Machine Check Exception: 0...04

2007-06-17 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello All , As a continuation . On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: Hello All , Does anoyone know howto identify a cause for these(*) ? Or of any tools to help in the identification of the cause ? So far the Machine checks only happen when I am running

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Al Boldi
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > On Sunday 17 June 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: > > We of course do want to minimise the amount of overhead for each > > developer. I'm a strong believer in specialisation: rather than > > requiring that *every* developer/maintainer integrate new steps in their > >

Re: Machine Check Exception: 0...04

2007-06-17 Thread Jesper Juhl
On 18/06/07, Mr. James W. Laferriere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello All , As a continuation . On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: > Hello All , Does anoyone know howto identify a cause for these(*) ? > Or of any tools to help in the identification of the

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:36:49AM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 05:33:55PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > intel-agp > > > > Though by the looks of things, with the working kernel, you don't have > > it loaded (it's dependant upon the 'agpgart' module, which prints the >

Re: [PATCH 3/3] ACPI autoloading - Create __mod_acpi_device_table symbol for all acpi drivers.

2007-06-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Thomas Renninger wrote: > Create __mod_acpi_device_table symbol for all acpi drivers. thinkpad-acpi will autoload by DMI ids in 2.6.23, which is a much better solution for model-specific drivers like thinkpad-acpi than autoloading by HID, IMHO. Thus, I'd prefer if your

Re: [patch] use __asm__ and __volatile__ in i386/arm/s390 byteorder.h

2007-06-17 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 18:33 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > This changes asm() to __asm__() and volatile to __volatile__ so that these > headers can be used with gcc's -std=c99. hmm but the kernel doesn't use -std=c99... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"

[patch] make hdrscheck.sh force __asm__ in exported headers

2007-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
This updates scripts/hdrschecks.sh by grepping for asm() constructs and rejecting them in favor of __asm__() in exported headers. Signed-off-by: Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- diff --git a/scripts/hdrcheck.sh b/scripts/hdrcheck.sh index 3159858..33d17cc 100755 --- a/scripts/hdrcheck.sh

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Michal Piotrowski
On 18/06/07, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > On Sunday 17 June 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: > > We of course do want to minimise the amount of overhead for each > > developer. I'm a strong believer in specialisation: rather than > > requiring that *every*

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Sunday, 17 June 2007 23:49, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > On Sunday 17 June 2007, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:53:41 +0200 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> wrote: [--snip--] > > > > yup, Reviewed-by: is good and I do think we should start adopting it,

mea culpa on the meaning of Tivoization (was: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3)

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > That accurately describes the FCC wireless rules. >> >> AFAIK the FCC mandates not permitting the user to tinker. It doesn't >> mandate the vendor to retain this ability to itself. > In practical terms it does since a recall/replacement

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Stefan Richter
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > despite the fact that audit takes > more time/knowledge then making the patch you will end up with zero credit > if patch turns out to be (luckily) correct. Even if you find out issues > and report them you are still on mercy of author for being credited If we

Re: 2.6.22-rc5 regression

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Mundt
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:49:05PM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > Kernels that work do NOT print "agpgart: Detected an Intel > 965G Chipset." (All I know is that I have an ASUS P5B motherboard > with a iP965, whether it's this 'G' or not I don't know). > The obvious question of course is whether

Re: [patch] use __asm__ and __volatile__ in i386/arm/s390 byteorder.h

2007-06-17 Thread Arnd Bergmann
On Monday 18 June 2007, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 18:33 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > This changes asm() to __asm__() and volatile to __volatile__ so that these > > headers can be used with gcc's -std=c99. > > hmm but the kernel doesn't use -std=c99... The byteorder

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > you argue that it is evil for tivo to produce a pice of hardware that > they can modify and the user can't s/evil/unethical/, because I understand that denying people the ability to enjoy the four freedoms of Free Software is unethical, and accepting

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > > A third way of stating it is "software for software". No, the romans never > > said that, but I just did, to make it just more obvious that the whole > > point is that you are expected to answer IN KIND! > > Yes. And this was precisely what

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:46:44PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > My perception is that the first easily dominates the second, and so > you are better off without tivoization. Your perception is quite flawed. I see where you come from, I know your intentions are absolutely genuine, but there's

[2.6 patch] proper prototype for proc_nr_files()

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
This patch adds a proper prototype for proc_nr_files() in include/linux/fs.h Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- include/linux/fs.h |5 + kernel/sysctl.c|4 +--- 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- linux-2.6.22-rc4-mm2/include/linux/fs.h.old

[2.6 patch] fs/namespace.c should #include "internal.h"

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
Every file should include the headers containing the prototypes for it's global functions. Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- --- linux-2.6.22-rc4-mm2/fs/namespace.c.old 2007-06-17 15:24:24.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22-rc4-mm2/fs/namespace.c 2007-06-17 15:24:50.0

[2.6 patch] fix devres_release_all() return value

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
Every file should include the headers containing the prototypes for it's global functions. Since the GNU C compiler is now able to detect that the function prototype of devres_release_all() in the header and the actual function disagree regarding the return value, this patch also fixes this

[-mm patch] arch/i386/video/fbdev.c should #include

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
Every file should include the headers containing the prototypes for it's global functions. Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- --- linux-2.6.22-rc4-mm2/arch/i386/video/fbdev.c.old2007-06-17 15:48:25.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22-rc4-mm2/arch/i386/video/fbdev.c

[2.6 patch] kernel/sys_ni.c should #include

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
Every file should include the headers containing the prototypes for it's global functions. Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- --- linux-2.6.22-rc4-mm2/kernel/sys_ni.c.old2007-06-17 16:03:11.0 +0200 +++ linux-2.6.22-rc4-mm2/kernel/sys_ni.c2007-06-17

[2.6 patch] include/linux/kprobes.h: always offer show_registers() prototype

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
Allow gcc to perform show_registers() type checking also with CONFIG_KPROBES=n. Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This patch has been sent on: - 27 Apr 2007 - 27 Mar 2007 include/linux/kprobes.h |4 +++- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) ---

[2.6 patch] mm/slab.c: start_cpu_timer() should be __cpuinit

2007-06-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
start_cpu_timer() should be __cpuinit (which also matches what it's callers are). __devinit didn't cause problems, it simply wasted a few bytes of memory for the common CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=n case. Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This patch has been sent on: - 28 Apr 2007

Re: mea culpa on the meaning of Tivoization (was: Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3)

2007-06-17 Thread Alan Cox
> > In practical terms it does since a recall/replacement in the event of > > rule changes is a bit impractical > > Indeed. But that's not a legal requirement, it's an economic reason. Cynical Economists would argue 'legal requirements' are just changes to the cost of the various economic

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:58:40PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Jesper Juhl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >Let's say I'm the owner of a company selling some device that uses a > >GPLv2 OS and some GPLv2 applications to do the job. Let's say that for > >some reason I don't want the

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:01 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 20:33 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > In a stunning turn of events, I've actually been able to make another >

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, "Jesper Juhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/06/07, Alexandre Oliva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] >> Serious, what's so hard to understand about: >> no tivoization => more users able to tinker their formerly-tivoized >> computers => more users make useful

Re: [patch] use __asm__ and __volatile__ in i386/arm/s390 byteorder.h

2007-06-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 17 June 2007, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > On Monday 18 June 2007, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 18:33 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > This changes asm() to __asm__() and volatile to __volatile__ so that > > > these headers can be used with gcc's -std=c99. > > > > hmm

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:58:40PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > The reason is that if there ever is a security hole in the routing > engine software (FreeBSD kernel, OpenSSH, etc.), it would be a really > bad thing if crackers could load arbitrary software (rootkits, spam > software, etc.) directly

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:49:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > ok, then you must have CONFIG_AGP=y I do - not voluntary however. For some mysterious reason I am unable to set it to n or m. I am also not able to set CONFIG_AGP_INTEL to n, only to y or m. (using make 'menuconfig' for example). > >

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Monday 18 June 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > despite the fact that audit takes > > more time/knowledge then making the patch you will end up with zero credit > > if patch turns out to be (luckily) correct. Even if you find out issues > > and report them you

Re: 2.6.22-rc5 regression

2007-06-17 Thread Carlo Wood
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:18:58AM +0900, Paul Mundt wrote: > The obvious question of course is whether actually reverting this > changeset fixes your problem? I would be very surprised if it did. Having a git commit Id, like d09c6b809432668371b5de9102f4f9aa6a7c79cc, how can I create a .diff file

AT_ENTROPY1 and AT_ENTROPY2 values for include/linux/auxvec.h

2007-06-17 Thread Alexander Gabert
Hello glibc and kernel maintainers, could you please add two AT_ entries to include/linux/auxvec.h in the upstream kernel and the respective elf/elf.h definitions in glibc. #define AT_ENTROPY1 24 /* kernel entropy in auxiliary vector */ #define AT_ENTROPY2 25 /* second field for kernel

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 16:49 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 10:01 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > > > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 2007-06-16 at 20:33 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > >

Re: [AGPGART] intel_agp: use table for device probe

2007-06-17 Thread Dave Jones
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 02:06:43AM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:49:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > > ok, then you must have CONFIG_AGP=y > > I do - not voluntary however. For some mysterious reason I am > unable to set it to n or m. You likely have CONFIG_IOMMU set.

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Nicholas Miell wrote: > Ah, ok, that's great. > > I didn't see anything like that in linux.git, missed Ben's patch to the > list, and mixed up your description with the original TIF_SIGPENDING > work. They will still race on the signal queue though. That is, if you create a

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> On Jun 17, 2007, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Under what circumstances would it be possible to receive permission for >> > modification? >> >> You have to ask the copyright holder. >> >> Affero did just

Re: 2.6.22-rc5 regression

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Mundt
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 02:10:49AM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 08:18:58AM +0900, Paul Mundt wrote: > > The obvious question of course is whether actually reverting this > > changeset fixes your problem? I would be very surprised if it did. > > Having a git commit Id, like

Re: asm-sh64/module.h defines 32 bit ELF types

2007-06-17 Thread Paul Mundt
On Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 01:10:40PM -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > I'm doing a little cleanup of ELF stuff around the tree, and I noticed > that asm-sh64/module.h defines 32 bit versions of the ELF types rather > than 64. Is this right? > Yes, that's correct. sh64 supports both a 64-bit and

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jun 17, 2007, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> /me hands Linus a mirror > "I'm a damn handsome dude, ain't I?" Heh. I beg to differ ;-) >> Serious, what's so hard to understand about: > You're talking about something totally

Re: How to improve the quality of the kernel?

2007-06-17 Thread Stefan Richter
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > In case of being maintainer "bastard approach" is more about not discouraging > developers by holding patches for too long than about getting credit. The maintainer who is about to suffocate in newly contributed code is actually a lucky guy: He can ask his

Re: And now for something _totally_ different: Linux v2.6.22-rc5

2007-06-17 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 17:20 -0700, Davide Libenzi wrote: > > > > I didn't see anything like that in linux.git, missed Ben's patch to > the > > list, and mixed up your description with the original TIF_SIGPENDING > > work. > > They will still race on the signal queue though. That is, if you >

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