Re: Severe trashing in 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread Mike Galbraith
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Alexander Viro wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Frank de Lange wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:27:29PM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > What about /proc/slabinfo? Notice that 2.4.4 (and couple of the 2.4.4-pre) > > > has a bug in prune_icache() that makes it

DMI deactivated - why?

2001-04-29 Thread Michael Reinelt
Hi there, I found a quite interesting file: arch/i386/kernel/dmi_scan.c It should print some DMI values at boot. As far as I remember, I've seen these at times of 2.4.0 or so. Now these outputs are deactivated with a #define dmi_printk(x) Can someone explain why this has been deactivated? I

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread David Emory Watson
Oh. Well in hindsight, I guess your are right. After all I wouldn't want to be a luser, much less associated with AOL. Gosh I never realized. Maybe I just didn't read the right standards manual when I started using the internet. Where did you learn all of this? No, nevermind I don't care.

Re: deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 10:39 PM -0700 2001-04-29, Steve VanDevender wrote: >Jonathan Lundell writes: > > At 10:03 PM -0400 2001-04-29, Andres Salomon wrote: > > >Americans can spell? Since when? > > Shouldn't that be 'Sinse when'? > > OED 2nd Ed: > > > > deregister. v. trans. To remove from a register.

HPNA

2001-04-29 Thread nervlord
Hello sorry to interupt ur work, i was a subscriber to the kernel mailing list before and realise how much traffic you get. My friend has a DIAMOND homefree network card using HPNA i was wondering what hte status of HPNA is in the kernel? to refresh HPNA allows you to network ur machines via

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, David Emory Watson wrote: > Al, > > I really don't know why you must complain about Eric's sig. I Because violating the common standards is a bad thing? You know, like 4-lines limit on sig size... And no, I don't care how many AOL and WebTV lusers do the same thing.

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space

2001-04-29 Thread dean gaudet
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Fabio Riccardi wrote: > I can disable header caching and see what happens, I'll add an option > for this in the next X15 release. heh, well to be honest, i'd put the (permanent) caching of the Date header into the very slimy, benchmark-only trick category. (right up there

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread David Emory Watson
Al, I really don't know why you must complain about Eric's sig. I personally like them just as they are, but thats strictly besides the point. IMHO, it is just not very intresting to hear you say: > Eric, it's getting tiresome. Kindly learn what the fsck McQ is, OK? Especially after all of

Re: deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Steve VanDevender
Jonathan Lundell writes: > At 10:03 PM -0400 2001-04-29, Andres Salomon wrote: > >Americans can spell? Since when? > > OED 2nd Ed: > > deregister. v. trans. To remove from a register. Hence > deregistration. (first citation 1925) > > unregistered. ppl. a. Not entered in a register;

Re: deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Jonathan Lundell
At 10:40 PM -0600 2001-04-29, Paul Fulghum wrote: >Andres Salomon wrote: > >>I'm kind of curious; "deregister" is used quite often in the kernel: >> >>pcmcia_deregister_client >... > >>matroxfb_dh_deregisterfb >> >>Not to mention in various comments and documentation. Deregister, >>according to

Re: 2.4.4: Kernel crash, possibly tcp related

2001-04-29 Thread David S. Miller
Ralf Nyren writes: > The problem appears when this value is set to 40481 or higher. For ex: > $ tcpblast -d0 -s 40481 another_host 9000 ... > KERNEL: assertion (!skb_queue_empty(>write_queue)) failed at tcp_timer.c(327): > tcp_retransmit_timer > Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer

RE: Lid support for ACPI

2001-04-29 Thread Grover, Andrew
(btw ACPI 2.0 spec section 12.1.1 discusses this) > From: Pavel Machek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > No, the ACPI standard requires CPUs to shut themselves down before > > any damage would occur from overheading. Well, at least the 1.0b > > version of the standard did; I haven't read 2.0 yet.

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Matthew Dharm
I've seen something similar with USB memory stick devices... they don't seem to report a media change in a way that the VFS layer will understand. I think this deserves some _serious_ debugging, personally, as this is going to come back to haunt us over and over again with some types of memory

Re: Dane-Elec PhotoMate Combo

2001-04-29 Thread Matthew Dharm
I would seriously argue with the "works beautifully" part of that. The DPCM code relies on the SDDR09 code, which is horrendously buggy. It's also being actively worked on. I can crash it at will with relatively simple operations. Matt On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 02:21:11PM +0200, [EMAIL

Re: Mounting an external USB host-powered ZIP 250 drive hangs in mount()

2001-04-29 Thread Matthew Dharm
I see you're using the alternate uhci driver... are hte results the same with the other UHCI driver? Can you turn on usb mass storage verbose debuggig (compile option) and then send me the logs? Matt On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 07:58:56AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I cannot seem to mount my

Re: ICQ masq modules for 2.2?

2001-04-29 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Frank v Waveren wrote: >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:02:22 +0200 >From: Frank v Waveren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Mike A. Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: Linux Kernel mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Subject: Re: ICQ masq modules for

Re: ICQ masq modules for 2.2?

2001-04-29 Thread Frank v Waveren
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:56:16PM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Any help in obtaining the source for this module would be greatly > appreciated. >From the readme included in the tarball: Homepage primary:http://freeshell.org/~djsf/masq-icq/ alternate:

Re: Alpha compile problem solved by Andrea (pte_alloc)

2001-04-29 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Andrea Arcangeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 05:27:10PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > > > Do you know if anyone has fixed the lazy vmalloc code? I know of > > as of early 2.4 it was broken on alpha. At the time I noticed it I didn't > > have time to persue it,

Re: CML2 1.3.3 is available

2001-04-29 Thread jdnfk kjhds
If only VA Linux had a gonkulator! :-O They've issued their third earnings warning. I found the link on http://www.theGloriousMEEPT.com . --- "Eric S. Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The latest version is always available at > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/cml2/ > > Release 1.3.3: Sun Apr

Re: deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Paul Fulghum
Andres Salomon wrote: > I'm kind of curious; "deregister" is used quite often in the kernel: > > pcmcia_deregister_client ... > matroxfb_dh_deregisterfb > > Not to mention in various comments and documentation. Deregister, > according to www.m-w.com (and many other dictionaries), is not a

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread volodya
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I don't know about whether this is possible with Tcl but have you tried A) > > invisible text and/or B) white space character text (e.g. one or more > > spaces)? That's the kind of thing I usually try

CML2 1.3.3 is available

2001-04-29 Thread Eric S. Raymond
The latest version is always available at http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/cml2/ Release 1.3.3: Sun Apr 29 23:00:33 EDT 2001 * Resync with 2.4.4. * Help texts merged into symbols file; the `helpfile' declaration is gone. (Text is merged in from Documentation/Configure.help

v2.4.4 PCI IRQ 0 / help wanted

2001-04-29 Thread Narang
. If a device is not found by BIOS can it still be used? . Why is the USB device getting IRQ 0? . Why is the Firewire device 8020 unknown? Attached is output of lspci, syslog, and output of lspci -vv. Hoping I can get some help. Please CC me any suggestions. Thanks. lspci 00:00.0

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX bu

2001-04-29 Thread Rick Hohensee
Jim Gettys >The "put the time into a magic location in shared memory" goes back, as >far as I know, to Bob Scheifler or myself for the X Window System, >sometime >around 1984 or 1985: we put it into a page of shared memory where we used >a circular buffer scheme to put input events

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Eric S. Raymond quoted: > Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I don't know about whether this is possible with Tcl but have you tried A) > > invisible text and/or B) white space character text (e.g. one or more > > spaces)? That's the kind of thing I usually try

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread John Cowan
Eric S. Raymond scripsit: > I tried whitespace, but the default Tkinter font isn't fixed-width. How > do you do invisible text? Set the background color and the foreground color to be the same. -- John Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] One art/there is/no less/no

Re: 2.4.4 Sound corruption [PATCH] NEW, ignore previous patch

2001-04-29 Thread Charl P. Botha
Please IGNORE the previous patch, it was faulty (I blame it on the time of day). The one attached with this is guaranteed to be perfect(tm). On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 03:06:26AM +0200, Charl P. Botha wrote: > Attached is a patch to the quirks.c in linux kernel 2.4.4 that fixes the > sound

Re: deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:27:29PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > Not to mention in various comments and documentation. Deregister, > > according to www.m-w.com (and many other dictionaries), is not a word. > > Is there some sort of historical

Re: Severe trashing in 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread David S. Miller
Frank de Lange writes: > Hm, 'twould be nice to know WHAT to look for (if only for educational > purposes), but ok: We're looking to see if queue collapsing is occuring on receive. Later, David S. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Rik van Riel
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Andres Salomon wrote: > Not to mention in various comments and documentation. Deregister, > according to www.m-w.com (and many other dictionaries), is not a word. > Is there some sort of historical significance to this being used, in > place of "unregister"? Yes, we're all

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Anton Altaparmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I don't know about whether this is possible with Tcl but have you tried A) > invisible text and/or B) white space character text (e.g. one or more > spaces)? That's the kind of thing I usually try in this situation... Just > an idea... I tried

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread Anton Altaparmakov
At 23:35 29/04/2001, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Also, the buttons on the right hand side for HELP, are wider when they > > have text in them, but slightly narrower when they are blank. They > > should be the same width no matter what. It looks ragged and ugly.

Re: deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:10:49PM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: [snip] > Not to mention in various comments and documentation. Deregister, > according to www.m-w.com (and many other dictionaries), is not a word. > Is there some sort of historical significance to this being used, in > place of

Re: ServerWorks LE and MTRR

2001-04-29 Thread Dave Jones
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Steffen Persvold wrote: > ... > Therefore please consider my small patch to allow the > good ones to be able to use write-combining. I have several rev 06 and they are > working fine with this patch. > ... ObPedant: Can you make a note of this in the comment a few lines

deregister?

2001-04-29 Thread Andres Salomon
I'm kind of curious; "deregister" is used quite often in the kernel: pcmcia_deregister_client pcmcia_deregister_erase_queue misc_deregister atm_dev_deregister atm_proc_dev_deregister usb_deregister_bus usb_deregister usb_serial_deregister scsi_deregister_blocked_host matroxfb_dh_deregisterfb

Re: 2.4.4 Sound corruption [PATCH]

2001-04-29 Thread Charl P. Botha
Attached is a patch to the quirks.c in linux kernel 2.4.4 that fixes the sound corruption problem (thanks to Dan Hollis for the info). Do I have to send this anywhere else as well? On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 05:29:05PM -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Charl P. Botha wrote: > > I

Re: 2.4.4 Sound corruption [FIXED]

2001-04-29 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Charl P. Botha wrote: > I have removed this code and everything is now fine on my system. The > problem is that the 686A and 686B have the same PCI IDs, else I would have > submitted a patch. 686a is rev 0x10 - 0x2f, 686b is rev 0x40 - 0x4f. The fixup code should take this

Re: Severe trashing in 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread Frank de Lange
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:45:00PM -0700, David S. Miller wrote: > > Frank de Lange writes: > > What do you want me to check for? /proc/net/netstat is a rather busy place... > > Just show us the contents after you reproduce the problem. > We just want to see if a certain event if being

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:18:27PM -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > having both the code and a comprehensive jump-table might become tough in a In the x86-64 implementation there's no jump table. The original design had a jump table but Peter raised the issue that indirect jumps are very costly

Re: 2.4.4 Sound corruption [FIXED]

2001-04-29 Thread Charl P. Botha
I have found the problem. The VIA latency patch in linux/drivers/pci/quirks.c at line 92 (quirk_vialatency()) should NOT be applied for the VIA VT82C686A (only for the 686B). On my machine (at least) it's causing problems (as documented below) and this bug (along with fix) is only applicable on

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:38:04PM +0200, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Fwiw, modern x86 has global TLB entries too. my x86-64 implementation is marking the tlb entry global of course (so it's not flushed during context switch): #define __PAGE_KERNEL_VSYSCALL \ (_PAGE_PRESENT | _PAGE_USER |

Re: Alpha compile problem solved by Andrea (pte_alloc)

2001-04-29 Thread Andrea Arcangeli
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 05:27:10PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote: > > Do you know if anyone has fixed the lazy vmalloc code? I know of > as of early 2.4 it was broken on alpha. At the time I noticed it I didn't > have time to persue it, but before I forget to even put in a bug > report I

Re: 2.4.3 2.4.4pre8: aic7xxx showstopper bug fails to detect sda

2001-04-29 Thread Matthias Andree
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, J . A . Magallon wrote: > > Command found on device queue > > aic7xxx_abort returns 8194 > > I have seen blaming for this error to aic7xxx new driver prior to version > 6.1.11. It was included in the 2.4.3-ac series, but its has not got into > main 2.4.4 (there

Re: 8139too in 2.4.4 Hanging/Locking

2001-04-29 Thread Ignacio Monge
The same thing happens to me. I've tried to start my ethernet, but my system hangs and, after a forced restart, the BIOS has cleared all my setup configuration (!). kernel 2.4.4 / modutils 2.4.5 VIA 868a, Athlon Thunderbidth 1 Ghz, 384 Mb RAM. Mandrake 8. Gcc 2.96.

RE: 2.4.3 2.4.4pre8: aic7xxx showstopper bug fails to detect sda

2001-04-29 Thread Steve 'Denali' McKnelly
Ahh... It doesn't even get that far... It just dies with the undefined symbols... -Original Message- From: David Relson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 11:32 AM To: Steve 'Denali' McKnelly Cc: Linux-Kernel mailing list Subject: RE: 2.4.3 2.4.4pre8: aic7xxx

Re: Alpha compile problem solved by Andrea (pte_alloc)

2001-04-29 Thread Eric W. Biederman
Do you know if anyone has fixed the lazy vmalloc code? I know of as of early 2.4 it was broken on alpha. At the time I noticed it I didn't have time to persue it, but before I forget to even put in a bug report I thought I'd ask if you know anything about it? Eric - To unsubscribe from this

Re: 2.4.4 Sound corruption

2001-04-29 Thread Charl P. Botha
FWIW, I have established that my sound broke between 2.4.4-pre5 and 2.4.4-pre6. I.e. in pre5 it works and in pre6 it doesn't, same .config. If anyone has any clues, I'd be glad to know. On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 04:55:01PM +0200, Charl P. Botha wrote: > 2.4.4 has broken sound here in a very

Re: best zero-copy example?

2001-04-29 Thread David S. Miller
Albert D. Cahalan writes: > > What would be the cleanest driver that does everything right? All of 3c59x, acenic, sunhme, sungem do all of ipv4 right. sunhme and sungem get ipv6 right as well because they just treat the checksummed area as an opaque buffer, whereas the other chips really do

Re: reiserfs autofix?

2001-04-29 Thread Chris Mason
On Sunday, April 29, 2001 02:48:27 PM -0700 putter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I am kernel newbie, especially with logging filesystems. > Now I am using Mandrake 7.1 with 2.4.3 kernel and imon patch > and NVidia drivers compiled into the kernel. ^^^ The binary only

Re: 2.4.3 2.4.4pre8: aic7xxx showstopper bug fails to detect sda

2001-04-29 Thread Matthias Andree
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Steve 'Denali' McKnelly wrote: > Let me ask a possibly stupid question... How do you tell > what version of the Gibbs Adaptec driver you're using? Did I > misunderstand you when you said the 2.4.4 kernel is using 6.1.5? > Also, did I understand you to say the 6.1.12

2.4.3-ac14: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual addressbccfbcd0

2001-04-29 Thread BERECZ Szabolcs
Hello! I just did my daily apt-get upgrade + netscape w/ 32Mb ram, so it swapped a lot. at that time there was a swap file on an ext2fs, but I think it's not about swapping. so the screen I saw (there is one digit missing): [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread Eric S. Raymond
John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Before on startup it would give: > > [root@jfs linux]# make config > rm -f include/asm > ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) > python -O scripts/cmlconfigure.py -DX86 -B 2.4.4-pre7 -W -i config.out > rules.out > ISA=y (deduced from X86)

Re: [kbuild-devel] Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Eric S. Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > USB and SCSI are both enabled/disabled in the system buses menu. The > apparent confusion Sorry, I typoed... USB and SCSI are both enabled/disabled in the system buses menu. The apparent confusion happens because of their defaults. --

Re: ServerWorks LE and MTRR

2001-04-29 Thread Steffen Persvold
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Steffen Persvold wrote: > > > I've learned it the hard way, I have two types : Compaq DL360 (rev 5) and a > > Tyan S2510 (rev 6). On the compaq machine I constantly get data corruption on > > the last double word (4 bytes) in a 64 byte PCI burst

Re: CML2 1.3.1, aka "I stick my neck out a mile..."

2001-04-29 Thread Eric S. Raymond
John Stoffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Which is a real PITA because now I have to edit my .config file to > have: > >CONFIG_RTC=y The correct fix for this PITA is for Linus not to ship a broken defconfig. > Now when I do a 'make config' it comes up properly. I > think this is a

Re: panic when booting 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread Jan Niehusmann
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:43:17PM -0700, Manuel McLure wrote: > Does your motherboard have a Promise FastTrak on it? If so this is a bug I > reported in 2.4.3-ac10/11 and that Alan Cox fixed in -ac12 - for some > reason it didn't make it into 2.4.4. I was just about to report it myself > when I

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Richard Gooch
H. Peter Anvin writes: > The thing that made me say we discussed this last month was > Richard's comment that it had already been implemented (which it > has, by Andrea, for x86-64.) The idea of doing it for i386 has been > kicked around for Correction: I didn't say it had been implemented. I

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Richard Gooch
Gregory Maxwell writes: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:11:59PM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: > [snip] > > The point is: The code in that "magic page" that considers the > > tradeoff is KERNEL code, which is designed to care about such > > trade-offs for that machine. Glibc never knows this stuff and > >

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Richard Gooch
Ingo Oeser writes: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:48:06PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote: > > Ingo Oeser writes: > > > There we have 10x faster memmove/memcpy/bzero for 1K blocks > > > granularity (== alignment is 1K and size is multiple of 1K), that > > > is done by the memory controller. > > This

Re: Severe trashing in 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread Frank de Lange
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:06:52AM +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote: > You could enable STATS in mm/slab.c, then the number of alloc and free > calls would be printed in /proc/slabinfo. > > > Yeah, those as well. I kinda guessed they were related... > > Could you check

Re: ServerWorks LE and MTRR

2001-04-29 Thread nick
Are you sure that is not due to board design differences? Nick On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Steffen Persvold wrote: > Gérard Roudier wrote: > > > > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Steffen Persvold wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I just compiled 2.4.4 and are running it on a Serverworks LE

Re: Severe trashing in 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread Manfred Spraul
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:58:52PM -0400, Alexander Viro wrote: > > Hmm... I'd say that you also have a leak in kmalloc()'ed stuff - > > something in 1K--2K range. From your logs it looks like the > > thing never shrinks and grows prettu fast... You could enable STATS in mm/slab.c, then the

8139too in 2.4.4 Hanging/Locking

2001-04-29 Thread Adam
Please CC this back, as I'm not yet on the kernel-mailing-list I'm currently running the following: kernel 2.4.3 gcc 2.95.3 modutils 2.4.2 dhcpcd v.1.3.19-pl8 The problem is, after compiling the 2.4.4 kernel with the exact configuration as I had used on the 2.4.3 kernel, my system hangs at:

Re: question regarding cpu selection

2001-04-29 Thread Ville Herva
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 11:13:12PM +0200, you [Erik Mouw] claimed: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 11:32:51PM +0300, Ville Herva wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:28:48PM -0400, you [Duncan Gauld] claimed: > > > I would supply a patch, but I don't know how to write such a thing :) > > > > It seems

Re: #define HZ 1024 -- negative effects?

2001-04-29 Thread Michael Rothwell
Great. I'm running 4.02. How do I enable "silken mouse"? Thanks, -Michael On 29 Apr 2001 14:44:11 -0700, Jim Gettys wrote: > The biggest single issue in GUI responsiveness on Linux has been caused > by XFree86's implementation of mouse tracking in user space. > > On typical UNIX systems, the

reiserfs autofix?

2001-04-29 Thread putter
Hi, I am kernel newbie, especially with logging filesystems. Now I am using Mandrake 7.1 with 2.4.3 kernel and imon patch and NVidia drivers compiled into the kernel. Now, all my partitions are ReiserFS. I usually play quake once or twice a day. Sometimes graphics subsystem freezes up, so it

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Jim Gettys
> > Short summary: depending on how much you were talking general idea versus > specifics, you can go arbitrarily far back (I wouldn't be surprised if > shared memory techniques were used regularly before memory protection.) > > Fair? Very fair. > > Not to pick on you or anyone else, but it

Re: #define HZ 1024 -- negative effects?

2001-04-29 Thread Jim Gettys
The biggest single issue in GUI responsiveness on Linux has been caused by XFree86's implementation of mouse tracking in user space. On typical UNIX systems, the mouse was often controlled in the kernel driver. Until recently (XFree86 4.0 days), the XFree86 server's reads of mouse/keyboard

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Jim Gettys wrote: > > The "put the time into a magic location in shared memory" goes back... > Short summary: depending on how much you were talking general idea versus specifics, you can go arbitrarily far back (I wouldn't be surprised if shared memory techniques were used regularly before

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space

2001-04-29 Thread Fabio Riccardi
I can disable header caching and see what happens, I'll add an option for this in the next X15 release. Nevertheless I don't know how much this is interesting in real life, since on the internet most static pages are cached on proxies. I agree that the RFC asks for a date for the original

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Jim Gettys
The "put the time into a magic location in shared memory" goes back, as far as I know, to Bob Scheifler or myself for the X Window System, sometime around 1984 or 1985: we put it into a page of shared memory where we used a circular buffer scheme to put input events (keyboard/mice), so that we

Re: question regarding cpu selection

2001-04-29 Thread Erik Mouw
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 11:32:51PM +0300, Ville Herva wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:28:48PM -0400, you [Duncan Gauld] claimed: > > I would supply a patch, but I don't know how to write such a thing :) > > It seems Erik Mouw already submitted a patch, altough I agree that "Celeron > II"

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space

2001-04-29 Thread Fabio Riccardi
Linux 2.4 is surely one of the most advanced OSs ever happened, especially from the optimization point of view and for the admirable economy of concepts on which it lies. I definitively hope that X15 helps reinforcing the success to this amazing system. TUX has definitively been my performance

Not just RealTek 8139/dhcpcd..epic100 broken also

2001-04-29 Thread James M
Kernel 2.4.2(working) 2.4.4(broken), Xeon 2-way SMP 400 mhz, 128 mem, gcc 2.95.3, DHCP Client Daemon v.1.3, Mandrake 7.2 2.4.4 is broken with my epic100/dhcpcd2.4.2 works fine. I copied /lib/module/2.4.2../epic100.o to /lib/modules/2.4.4/../epic100.o with no success. Messages error: Apr 29

Re: ServerWorks LE and MTRR

2001-04-29 Thread Steffen Persvold
Gérard Roudier wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Steffen Persvold wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I just compiled 2.4.4 and are running it on a Serverworks LE motherboard. > > Whenever I try to add a write-combining region, it gets rejected. I took a peek > > in the arch/i386/kernel/mtrr.c and found

ICQ masq modules for 2.2?

2001-04-29 Thread Mike A. Harris
Where can one obtain the ip_masq_icq.o module source for 2.2.x? Searches on freshmeat turn up nothing, search on google turns up a page that has module source for 2.2.x, 2.0.x but when downloaded the file is corrupt (on the server side, not just my download). Further searching reveals nothing

Re: [PATCH][CFT] (updated) ext2 directories in pagecache

2001-04-29 Thread Daniel Phillips
> Patch is on ftp.math.psu.edu/pub/viro/ext2-dir-patch-S4.gz Here is my ext2 directory index as a patch against your patch: http://kernelnewbies.org/~phillips/htree/dx.pcache-2.4.4 Changes: - COMBSORT macro replaced by custom sort code - Most #ifdef CONFIG_EXT2_INDEX's changed

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Arjan van de Ven
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Yes, but we currently have more than 10K cycles for doing > memset of a page. make that 3800 or so. (700 Mhz AMD Duron) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Rogier Wolff
H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Rogier Wolff wrote: > > The image of the disk (including partition table) is at: > > > > ftp://ftp.bitwizard.nl/misc_junk/formatted.img.gz > > > > It's 63kb and uncompresses to the 64Mb (almost) that it's sold as. > > > > And on at least this kernel (2.4.0)

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread mirabilos
Btw, the root dir contains 512 entries. Just from the dump. (I would let the partition start at sector ptabl+1, not wasting so much space... but M$ fdisk.exe neither does.) -mirabilos - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Rogier Wolff
mirabilos wrote: [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Btw, the root dir contains 512 entries. > Just from the dump. Jep. > (I would let the partition start at sector ptabl+1, not wasting > so much space... but M$ fdisk.exe neither does.) This was formatted by my Sony

Re: traceroute breaks with 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread Mohammad A. Haque
David Konerding wrote: > OK, I'm unable to fix this by reverting to 2.4.2 using the same config as > 2.4.2. > However, an older compiled 2.4.2 worked, so I think I must have changed > some configuration which affects it. Can't for the life of me figure out what > it is, > tho'. Send me your

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Rogier Wolff wrote: > > H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > > > > > > I doubt the kernel is seeing it without it being there (it doesn't have > > > > much imagination.) However, it may very well be there in a funny > > > > manner. You do realize, of course, that it's pretty

Re: question regarding cpu selection

2001-04-29 Thread Ville Herva
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:28:48PM -0400, you [Duncan Gauld] claimed: > > compiling kernel 2.4.4 on mandrake 8. > Just checked - no mention of Celeron II in there- >Pentium Pro/Pentium II/Celeron > is the only line mentioning the celeron; maybe the PIII line could be changed > to something

Re: question regarding cpu selection

2001-04-29 Thread Duncan Gauld
On Sunday 29 April 2001 3:36 pm, Ville Herva wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 02:56:08PM -0400, you [William Park] claimed: > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 07:07:51PM -0400, Duncan Gauld wrote: > > > Hi, > > > This seems a silly question but - I have an intel celeron 800mhz CPU > > > and thus it is

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Rogier Wolff
H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > > > > I doubt the kernel is seeing it without it being there (it doesn't have > > > much imagination.) However, it may very well be there in a funny > > > manner. You do realize, of course, that it's pretty much impossible for > > > us to

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Rogier Wolff wrote: > > > > I doubt the kernel is seeing it without it being there (it doesn't have > > much imagination.) However, it may very well be there in a funny > > manner. You do realize, of course, that it's pretty much impossible for > > us to help you answer that question without a

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Rogier Wolff
Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:09:22PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > Rogier Wolff wrote: > > > > > > H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) > > > > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > > > >

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By author:dean gaudet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > > "H. Peter Anvin" wrote: > > > We discussed this at the Summit, not a year or two ago. x86-64 has > > > it, and it wouldn't be too bad

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Rogier Wolff
H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Rogier Wolff wrote: > > > > H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) > > > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > > > > > # l /mnt/d1 > > > > total 16 > > > > drwxr-xr-x 512 root root

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:11:59PM +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote: [snip] > The point is: The code in that "magic page" that considers the > tradeoff is KERNEL code, which is designed to care about such > trade-offs for that machine. Glibc never knows this stuff and > shouldn't, because it is already

Re: ServerWorks LE and MTRR

2001-04-29 Thread Gérard Roudier
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Steffen Persvold wrote: > Hi all, > > I just compiled 2.4.4 and are running it on a Serverworks LE motherboard. > Whenever I try to add a write-combining region, it gets rejected. I took a peek > in the arch/i386/kernel/mtrr.c and found that this is just as expected with

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > > > I doubt the kernel is seeing it without it being there (it doesn't have > > much imagination.) However, it may very well be there in a funny > > manner. You do realize, of course, that it's pretty much impossible for > > us to help you answer that question without

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 01:09:22PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Rogier Wolff wrote: > > > > H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) > > > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > > > > > # l /mnt/d1 > > > > total 16 > > >

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Ingo Oeser
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 12:48:06PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote: > Ingo Oeser writes: > > There we have 10x faster memmove/memcpy/bzero for 1K blocks > > granularity (== alignment is 1K and size is multiple of 1K), that > > is done by the memory controller. > This sounds different to me. Using the

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Rogier Wolff wrote: > > H. Peter Anvin wrote: > > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) > > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > > > # l /mnt/d1 > > > total 16 > > > drwxr-xr-x 512 root root16384 Mar 24 17:26 dcim/ > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-29 Thread Rogier Wolff
H. Peter Anvin wrote: > Followup to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > By author:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) > In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > > > # l /mnt/d1 > > total 16 > > drwxr-xr-x 512 root root16384 Mar 24 17:26 dcim/ > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root0 May 23 2000

Re: X15 alpha release: as fast as TUX but in user space (fwd)

2001-04-29 Thread Richard Gooch
Gregory Maxwell writes: > Would it make sence to have libc use the magic page for all > syscalls? Then on cpus with a fast syscall instruction, the magic > page could contain the needed junk in userspace to use it. That's pretty much what Linus suggested. He proposed having a new syscall

Re: question regarding cpu selection

2001-04-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 07:07:51PM -0400, Duncan Gauld wrote: > Hi, > This seems a silly question but - I have an intel celeron 800mhz CPU and thus > it is of the Coppermine breed. But under cpu selection when configuring the > kernel, should I select PIII or PII/Celeron? Just wondering, since

Re: question regarding cpu selection

2001-04-29 Thread Erik Mouw
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 07:07:51PM -0400, Duncan Gauld wrote: > This seems a silly question but - I have an intel celeron 800mhz CPU and thus > it is of the Coppermine breed. But under cpu selection when configuring the > kernel, should I select PIII or PII/Celeron? Just wondering, since

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