[2.6.21-rc5-git1][KVM] exception on start VM

2007-03-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
Starting a VM for Win98SE: posidon:root> /usr/local/kvm-15/bin/qemu -m 128 -hda Win98SE-2.kvm exception 13 (0) rax f000ff53 rbx rcx 005a rdx 000e rsi 001100c4 rdi 0002a002 rsp 00086650 rbp 667a r8

Re: [2.6 patch] the scheduled eepro100 removal

2007-03-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
al as long as there is a legitimate need to support old hardware. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROT

Re: O_DIRECT question

2007-01-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
ay also do that, with more or less valid reasons. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-k

Re: O_DIRECT question

2007-01-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
tes should be slower than O_DIRECT. Other than the copy to buffer taking CPU and memory resources. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe fro

Re: Strange LKML home page!!!

2007-01-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
already explained that that site has nothing to do with kernel.org. why do you care? Some people find the site useful for browsing this list. It's a resource. Not all useful Linux sites are controlled by kernel.org. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bung

Re: Abysmal disk performance, how to debug?

2007-01-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
p/1GB bs=1M count=1024; sync" which will actually time the write with the time command. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this li

Re: O_DIRECT question

2007-01-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Friday 26 January 2007 19:23, Bill Davidsen wrote: Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Thursday 25 January 2007 21:45, Michael Tokarev wrote: Phillip Susi wrote: [...] But even single-threaded I/O but in large quantities benefits from O_DIRECT significantly, and I

Re: O_DIRECT question

2007-01-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 15:01, Bodo Eggert wrote: Denis Vlasenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 26 January 2007 19:23, Bill Davidsen wrote: Denis Vlasenko wrote: On Thursday 25 January 2007 21:45, Michael Tokarev wrote: But even single-thread

Re: Raid 10 question/problem [ot]

2007-01-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
may assist in understanding this. Either use RAID-10 or add md2 to the mdadm.conf to get it started at boot. I suggest using RAID-10. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked."

Re: Raid 10 question/problem [ot]

2007-01-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
Michael Tokarev wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: [] RAID-10 is not the same as RAID 0+1. It is. Yes, there's separate module for raid10, but what it - basically - does is the same as raid0 module over two raid1 modules will do. It's just a bit more efficient (less levels, more room

Re: Free Linux Driver Development!

2007-01-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
people read that even if they can't cope with LKML volume. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe l

Re: [ANN] Userspace M-on-N threading model implementation. Alpha release.

2007-02-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
therefore it's a bad idea" type simply contribute nothing. Because user threading can avoid context switches, there will always be cases where it will outperform o/s threads for hardware reasons. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungli

Re: smp and irq conflict

2007-02-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
that. I think you are just running out of bus. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: [ANN] Userspace M-on-N threading model implementation. Alpha release.

2007-02-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
. at least this part of your argument seems to be incorrect ;) How does that work? Switching between kernel threads requires going into the kernel, user level thread switches are all done in user mode. Do you have some way to change o/s threads w/o going into the kernel? -- Bill Davidsen <[EM

Re: Free Linux Driver Development!

2007-02-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
result, the routing. And if that changes, it need only change in one place. Making good administration difficult because it fits some pedantic metal model is NOT a good way to decide which features to offer in a kernel. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the b

Re: [ANN] Userspace M-on-N threading model implementation. Alpha release.

2007-02-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jakub Jelinek wrote: On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 03:12:32PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: Because user threading can avoid context switches, there will always be cases where it will outperform o/s threads for hardware reasons. actually.. switching from one

Re: [PATCH 000 of 2] md: Introduction - bugfixes for md/raid{1,10}

2007-06-12 Thread Bill Davidsen
ostly" for remote mirrors I do have a few systems doing >2 mirrors as well. This set of patches definitely will be in my kernel by this afternoon. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsubscribe f

Re: raid1 with nbd member hangs MD on SLES10 and RHEL5

2007-06-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
able. The nbd0 device _should_ feel an NBD_DISCONNECT because the nbd-server is no longer running (the node it was running on was powered off)... however the nbd-client is still connected to the kernel (meaning the kernel didn't return an error back to userspace). Also, MD is still blockin

Re: raid5: coding style cleanup / refactor

2007-06-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
series is still passing my tests and Neil's tests in mdadm. When you are ready for wider testing, if you have a patch against a released kernel it makes testing easy, characteristics are pretty well known already. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing inter

Re: raid1 with nbd member hangs MD on SLES10 and RHEL5

2007-06-15 Thread Bill Davidsen
Paul Clements wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Second, AFAIK nbd hasn't working in a while. I haven't tried it in ages, but was told it wouldn't work with smp and I kind of lost interest. If Neil thinks it should work in 2.6.21 or later I'll test it, since I have a machine which wants a fresh

Re: limits on raid

2007-06-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
ertise, and lots of time and coffee?). Well, I gave you two thoughts, one which would be slow until a repair but sounds easy to do, and one which is slightly harder but works better and minimizes performance impact. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing

Re: limits on raid

2007-06-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
to a maintinance window and then recreate the array and reload from backup. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the b

Re: Kaffeine problem with CFS

2007-04-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
. I am going to try some tests on a uniprocessor, though, I have been running everything on either SMP or HT CPUs. But so far it looks fine. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked.&

Re: [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS]

2007-04-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
ow my movie and echo my typing, and if that's hard on compiles or the file transfer, so be it. Con doesn't want to compromise his goals, I agree but want to have an option if I don't share them. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of t

Re: [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS]

2007-04-20 Thread Bill Davidsen
has tried this, perhaps they would report what they saw. People are talking about smoothness, but not how many pages per second come out of their overloaded web server. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from th

Re: [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS]

2007-04-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
be soluble. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [

Re: [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS]

2007-04-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
d for some database applications, everyone in a group may connect with the same login-id, then do sub authorization to the database application. euid may be an issue there as well. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than f

Re: [Announce] [patch] Modular Scheduler Core and Completely Fair Scheduler [CFS]

2007-04-21 Thread Bill Davidsen
retty nice from many POVs) is the real challenge. yeah. Ingo -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "

[RFC] another scheduler beater

2007-04-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
The small attached script does a nice job of showing animation glitches in the glxgears animation. I have run one set of tests, and will have several more tomorrow. I'm off to a poker game, and would like to let people draw their own conclusions. Based on just this script as load I would say

[REPORT] First "glitch1" results, 2.6.21-rc7-git6-CFSv5

2007-04-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
I am not sure a binary attachment will go thru, I will move to the web ste if not. GL2.6.21-rc7-git6-CFSv5_nice0_jump Description: Binary data GL2.6.21-rc7-git6-CFSv5_nice0_nojump Description: Binary data GL2.6.21-rc7-git6-CFSv5_nice19_nojump Description: Binary data

Re: Linux 2.6.21

2007-04-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
in stable and mainline before N+1 release. Measuring releases or your own value against perfection is thankless! -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To

Re: Linux 2.6.21

2007-04-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
ot; of policy, I think that's a reasonable commitment to the people doing the work. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send t

Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)

2007-04-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
have forgotten some things. Honestly, I like this laptop when it works flawlessly, so I don't see many reasons to try *susp* again. I'll do it when I'm bored, just not today. Actually on some old laptops I just use the apm command, with -s (or -S, I forget by now), and that works. -- Bill Davidsen

Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy)

2007-04-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
doing, I wish I could have found a nicer way to say that. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-

Re: init's children list is long and slows reaping children.

2007-04-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
em, VM, SysV semaphore state, namespaces etc. The "struct signal_struct" is the random *leftovers* from all the other stuff. It's *not* about "processes". Never has been, and never will be. I proposed "struct task_shared_ctx" but you ducked :) Descriptive, correct,

Re: Performance Stats: Kernel patch

2007-04-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
umbers (even counting stats for dead threads) -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PRO

Re: init's children list is long and slows reaping children.

2007-04-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
ld getppid() and start sending signals to a program not expecting them. Invites undefined behavior. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list

Re: Add a norecovery option to ext3/4?

2007-04-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
e mounting garbage, and isn't likely to suffer terminal damage. I wonder what happens if the device is really read-only and the o/s tries to replay the journal as part of a r/o mount? I suspect the system will refuse totally with an i/o error, not what you want. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROT

Re: init's children list is long and slows reaping children.

2007-04-11 Thread Bill Davidsen
Eric W. Biederman wrote: Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: As long as the original parent is preserved for getppid(). There are programs out there which communicate between the parent and child with signals, and if the original parent dies, it undesirable to have the child g

Re: sched_yield proposals/rationale

2007-04-12 Thread Bill Davidsen
with a company which seemed to have a whole part of purchasing dedicated to buying same. :-( -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this lis

Re: sched_yield proposals/rationale

2007-04-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Mark Lord wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill Davidsen And having gotten same, are you going to code up what appears to be a solution, based on this feedback? The feedback was helpful in verifying whether there are any arguments against my approach. The real proof is in the pudding

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
f power. I haven't checked on that in a while, I'm just supplying one reason since you wondered. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this li

Re: [PATCH][RFC] Kill off legacy power management stuff.

2007-04-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: [appropriate CCs added] On Friday, 13 April 2007 02:33, Robert P. J. Day wrote: just something i threw together, not in final form, but it represents tossing the legacy PM stuff

glitch1 results - 2.6.21.3-cfs-v15

2007-06-04 Thread Bill Davidsen
relatively light load: nice -10 make -j4 -s of a kernel would cause jumps on the video, gears or youtube. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from

Re: [2.6.21.1] resume doesn't run suspended kernel?

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
Stefan Seyfried wrote: Hi, On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 06:42:37PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: I was testing susp2disk in 2.6.21.1 under FC6, to support reliable computing environment (RCE) needs. The idea is that if power fails, after some short time on UPS the system does susp2disk with a time

Re: [Patch 04/18] include/linux/logfs.h

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Davidsen
kernel, or that it should be added to gcc, but in some use like embedded applications where memory use is an important cost driver, people are probably doing it already by hand to pack struct arrays into minimal bytes. It's neither impossible nor totally useless. -- bill davidsen <[EM

Re: [RFC] Extend Linux to support proportional-share scheduling

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Davidsen
on... what people will tolerate is a bounded value. Not an easy thing to do, but probably very complementary to your work IMHO. Agree, not easy at all. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsu

Scheduler responsiveness under load

2007-05-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
I am just running a new series of response tests, which I expect to send to the list today or tomorrow. It includes operating at some high (LA>20) loads, and gathering reproducible statistics. In the process I used the file completion feature while load was high, and noted that with sd0.48

Scheduling tests on IPC methods, fc6, sd0.48, cfs12

2007-05-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
I have posted the results of my initial testing, measuring IPC rates using various schedulers under no load, limited nice load, and heavy load at nice 0. http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/ctxbench_testing.html -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting

Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful", take 3

2007-05-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
mmittee, a committee is a poor way to get innovation, and a good way to have a bunch of know legible people shoot down bad ideas. It was a fun experience, where I first learned the modern equivalent of Occam's Razor, Plauger's "Law of least astonishment," which compiler writers r

Re: [1/2] 2.6.22-rc1: known regressions

2007-05-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
]> Status : Unknown There is currently zero proof that this has anything to do with I2C. I believe in another thread this has been traced to a change in the interface and can be solved with an upgrade for the applet. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear

glitch1 v1.6 script update and results on cfs-v13

2007-05-18 Thread Bill Davidsen
g on three machines, with dual-core, hyperthreaded uni, and pure uni. Unless I see a hint that one of these cases is handled less well than the others I won't compare. -- Bill Davidsen He was a full-time professional cat, not some moonlighting ferret or weasel. He knew about these things.

Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 8479] New: gettimeofday returning 1000000 in tv_usec on core2duo

2007-05-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
a675 for -stable, if it isn't already there. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kerne

Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three

2007-05-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
lover who is a confessed serial killer. I'm surprised the case hasn't been adapter for 'Boston legal' and 'Law and Order' like other high profile crimes. I see nothing wrong with jörnfs, and there's room for numbers at the end... -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have mor

Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three

2007-05-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
workload where sequential write is dominant. I also expect that FTL for PC environment will have better quality spec than the disposable storage. The recent technology announcements from Intel are encouraging in that respect. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more t

Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
scheduler developers would like me to try other tunings or new versions let me know. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send t

Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-19 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ray Lee wrote: On 5/19/07, Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I generated a table of results from the latest glitch1 script, using an HTML postprocessor I not *quite* ready to foist on the word. In any case it has some numbers for frames per second, fairness of the processo

Scheduler smoothness and fairness - results and package

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
e Core2duo in x86 (32 bit) mode, I'm now off to rerun in x86_64 mode, and on a single CPU hyperthreaded machine, and a pure uniprocessor. I'm going to create a page for all the results in one place for anyone who cares. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to f

Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Miguel Figueiredo wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: I generated a table of results from the latest glitch1 script, using an HTML postprocessor I not *quite* ready to foist on the word. In any case it has some numbers for frames per second, fairness of the processor time allocated to the compute

lzo code

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
It is derived from original LZO 2.02 code found at: http://www.oberhumer.com/opensource/lzo/download/ The code has also been reformatted to match general kernel style. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the m

Re: Increased ipw2200 power usage with dynticks

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
r save for ipw2200 (and probably many other things). Dare we hope that this will allow use of USB on laptops without draining the battery? -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked.&

Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
the same conditions as I did let me know your results. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-ke

Re: Software raid0 will crash the file-system, when each disk is 5TB

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations o

Re: SideWinder GameVoice driver

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
description it sounds as though it would be useful in applications where voice connect was useful and visual wasn't, such as blind users and embedded applications where a USB pluggable interface might be useful in unusual situations. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more t

Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v13

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
sing sites with heavy JS and or flash usage. Mouse movement is pathetic and audio starts to skip. I haven't face this behavior with CFS till v11. 'm not seeing this, do have a site or two as examples? -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the

Re: Scheduling tests on IPC methods, fc6, sd0.48, cfs12

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Ingo Molnar wrote: * Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have posted the results of my initial testing, measuring IPC rates using various schedulers under no load, limited nice load, and heavy load at nice 0. http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen/ctxbench_testing.html

Re: Scheduling tests on IPC methods, fc6, sd0.48, cfs12

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
William Lee Irwin III wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 07:26:38PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: I have posted the results of my initial testing, measuring IPC rates using various schedulers under no load, limited nice load, and heavy load at nice 0. http://www.tmr.com/~davidsen

Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-22 Thread Bill Davidsen
Miguel Figueiredo wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Miguel Figueiredo wrote: Ray Lee wrote: On 5/20/07, Miguel Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I tryied myself kernels 2.6.21, 2.6.21-cfs-v13, and 2.6.21-ck2 on the same machine i found *very* odd those numbers you posted, so i

Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
I was unable to reproduce the numbers Miguel generated, comments below. The -ck2 patch seems to run nicely, although the memory repopulation from swap would be most useful on system which have a lot of memory pressure. Bill Davidsen wrote: Miguel Figueiredo wrote: Hi Bill, if i've

Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Con Kolivas wrote: On Wednesday 23 May 2007 10:28, Bill Davidsen wrote: kernel2.6.21-cfs-v132.6.21-ck2 a)194464254669 b)54159124 Everyone seems to like ck2, this makes it look as if the video display would be really pretty unusable. While sd-0.48 does

Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
t rig, based on a 15 year old boy and several cans of high caffeine soda, is used for. ;-) Anyway, I'm still in the process of collecting data or more precisely until recently constantly refined what data to collect and how. I plan to provide new benchmark results on CPU intensive tasks in a couple

Re: Sched - graphic smoothness under load - cfs-v13 sd-0.48

2007-05-23 Thread Bill Davidsen
Miguel Figueiredo wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: I was unable to reproduce the numbers Miguel generated, comments below. The -ck2 patch seems to run nicely, although the memory repopulation from swap would be most useful on system which have a lot of memory pressure. I spent a few hours

Re: Race free attributes in sysfs

2007-05-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
." cases, could someone cover this and state that it either can't happen because {reason} or that if it does the result will be {description}. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wi

Re: 2.6.21.1 on Fedora Core 6 breaks LVM/vgscan

2007-05-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
does fine. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [

Re: IDE/ATA: Intel i865-based mainboard, CDROM not detected

2007-05-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
in POST at cold boot. It may need some BIOS setting to be visible. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "uns

Re: [PATCH 2/3] Unify dma blacklist in ide-dma.c and libata-core.c

2007-05-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
Junio C Hamano wrote: This introduces a shared header file that defines the entries for two dma blacklists in ide-dma.c and libata-core.c to make it easier to keep them in sync. Why wasn't this done this way in the first place? Out of tree development for libata or something? -- Bill

[2.6.21.1] resume doesn't run suspended kernel?

2007-05-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROT

Documentation on /sys/power/resume

2007-05-26 Thread Bill Davidsen
Not in the ABI doc, is there and doc at all, and if not could someone who knows where it's used might give me a hint, as a quick look didn't bring enlightenment. Or is it a future hook which doesn't work yet? -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from t

Re: Documentation on /sys/power/resume

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, On Sunday, 27 May 2007 01:51, Bill Davidsen wrote: Not in the ABI doc, is there and doc at all, and if not could someone who knows where it's used might give me a hint, as a quick look didn't bring enlightenment. Or is it a future hook which doesn't work yet

Re: [2.6.21.1] resume doesn't run suspended kernel?

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
David Greaves wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Anyway, I pulled the plug on the UPS, and the system shut down. But when it powered up, it booted the default kernel rather than the test kernel, decided that it couldn't resume, and then did a cold boot. Booting the machine isn't the kernel's job

Re: Documentation on /sys/power/resume

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: On Sunday, 27 May 2007 14:53, Bill Davidsen wrote: Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: Hi, On Sunday, 27 May 2007 01:51, Bill Davidsen wrote: Not in the ABI doc, is there and doc at all, and if not could someone who knows where it's used might give me a hint

Re: [2.6.21.1] resume doesn't run suspended kernel?

2007-05-27 Thread Bill Davidsen
Pavel Machek wrote: On Sat 2007-05-26 18:42:37, Bill Davidsen wrote: I was testing susp2disk in 2.6.21.1 under FC6, to support reliable computing environment (RCE) needs. The idea is that if power fails, after some short time on UPS the system does susp2disk with a time set, and boots

Re: [2.6.21.1] resume doesn't run suspended kernel?

2007-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bill Davidsen wrote: Pavel Machek wrote: On Sat 2007-05-26 18:42:37, Bill Davidsen wrote: I was testing susp2disk in 2.6.21.1 under FC6, to support reliable computing environment (RCE) needs. The idea is that if power fails, after some short time on UPS the system does susp2disk with a time

Re: [RFD] BIO_RW_BARRIER - what it means for devices, filesystems, and dm/md.

2007-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
, rather than have code in each f/s to cope with odd behavior. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a mess

What causes iowait other than waiting for i/o?

2007-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
time to iowait instead of system I don't see anything to fix, but I would like to understand. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel&q

Re: Linux v2.6.22-rc3

2007-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
birds with a single store, but will avoid having to re-solve the problem at sometime in the future. That's good software! -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot

Re: stuff ready to be deleted?

2007-05-28 Thread Bill Davidsen
Linux code, including x86_64 3D drivers, was released in April, so there's no lack of new features and activity. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To

Re: What causes iowait other than waiting for i/o?

2007-05-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
Satyam Sharma wrote: Hi Bill, On 5/29/07, Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I recently noted that my system was spending a lot of time in i/o wait when doing some tasks which I thought didn't involve i/o, as noted by the lack of disk light activity most of the time. I thought of n

Re: What causes iowait other than waiting for i/o?

2007-05-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rik van Riel wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: I recently noted that my system was spending a lot of time in i/o wait when doing some tasks which I thought didn't involve i/o, as noted by the lack of disk light activity most of the time. I thought of network, certainly the NIC had no activity

Re: 2.6.21.1 - 97% wait time on IDE operations

2007-05-29 Thread Bill Davidsen
rpm drive. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message

Re: [RFD] BIO_RW_BARRIER - what it means for devices, filesystems, and dm/md.

2007-05-31 Thread Bill Davidsen
e, it's at a level closer to the device, and status should come back from the physical i/o request. For 'iscsi', I guess it works just the same as SCSI... Hopefully. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979

Re: [RFD] BIO_RW_BARRIER - what it means for devices, filesystems, and dm/md.

2007-05-31 Thread Bill Davidsen
proposed a project which uses one? :-( I think the goal is good, more choice is almost always better choice, I just want to be sure there won't be big disk performance regressions. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers

Re: [RFD] BIO_RW_BARRIER - what it means for devices, filesystems, and dm/md.

2007-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jens Axboe wrote: On Thu, May 31 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jens Axboe wrote: On Thu, May 31 2007, David Chinner wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:26:45AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote: On Thu, May 31 2007, David Chinner wrote: IOWs, there are two

Re: [RFD] BIO_RW_BARRIER - what it means for devices, filesystems, and dm/md.

2007-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
anything special about getting it onto the media. My impression is that the sync will return when the i/o has been delivered to the device, and will get special treatment by the elevator code (I looked quickly, more is needed). I'm sore someone will tell me if I misread this. ;-) -- bill

Re: [dm-devel] Re: [RFD] BIO_RW_BARRIER - what it means for devices, filesystems, and dm/md.

2007-06-01 Thread Bill Davidsen
. Battery backed cache doesn't prevect failures between the cache and the platter. -- bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CTO TMR Associates, Inc Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the b

Re: [RFD] BIO_RW_BARRIER - what it means for devices, filesystems, and dm/md.

2007-06-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jens Axboe wrote: On Fri, Jun 01 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jens Axboe wrote: On Thu, May 31 2007, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jens Axboe wrote: On Thu, May 31 2007, David Chinner wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:26:45AM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote

Re: scheduling oddity on 2.6.20.3 stock

2007-06-02 Thread Bill Davidsen
s a proof of concept for a pthreads presentation I was giving, and it happened to be useful. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot - To unsubscribe from

Re: Preempt of BKL and with tickless systems

2007-05-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
Lee Revell wrote: On 5/8/07, Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think I have a reasonable grip on the voluntary and full preempt models, can anyone give me any wisdom on the preempt of the BKL? I know what it does, the question is where it might make a difference under normal

Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful" document

2007-05-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
to be a +"stupid legacy" issue in this regard. It would seem that any variable which is (a) subject to change by other threads or hardware, and (b) the value of which is going to be used without writing the variable, would be a valid use for volatile. -- Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PATCH] "volatile considered harmful" document

2007-05-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Krzysztof Halasa wrote: Robert Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: You don't need volatile in that case, rmb() can be used. rmb() invalidates all compiler assumptions, it can be much slower. Yes, why would you use rmb() when a read of a volatile generates optimal code? -

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