Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Graham Murray
"Adam J. Richter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets which have 1's in bit positions that in the RFC

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Graham Murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) writes: If the firewall operator is sufficiently paranoid, they can say: "We don't trust the ECN implementation on our hosts behind the firewall, so we want to disable it.". In which case would the "correct" action not be to zero the ECN bits of packets

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Graham Murray
Matti Aarnio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... and immediately I have been able to verify a bunch of domains/servers which won't get thru when incoming connection has ECN. As a matter of interest, are you also noting how many actually negotiate ECN rather than simply responding with a plain SYN

Re: www.crucial.com won't talk to 2.4.0-test7 system

2000-09-02 Thread Graham Murray
David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this. What is the best way to handle sites which block connections using ECN? Is it best for everyone who detects this to write individually to each site which they find can be accessed with "echo 0

Re: ECN cisco firewall

2000-09-09 Thread Graham Murray
"David S. Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The authors of rfc793 probably, in all honesty, really meant "must be set to zero by current implementations". I agree, to me it seems obvious that the reason is so that these bits could be used at some time in the future for some, then unknown,

netstat -s on 2.4.0-test[78]

2000-09-11 Thread Graham Murray
Using net-tools 1.57 (which I think is the latest) and kernel 2.4.0-test7/8 (I think it was OK with -test6) 'netstat -s' displays the message "error parsing /proc/net/snmp: Success" rather than displaying the counters. I notice that kernel/Documentation/Changes no longer lists the version of

2.4.0-test9 i810_rng compilation failure

2000-10-03 Thread Graham Murray
i810_rng.c does not compile when not a module. It fails at line 384, which looks as though it should only be included when being built as a module. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at

Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-09 Thread Graham Murray
"Mohammad A. Haque" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: making a patch means you've modfied the source which you are not allowed to do. The most you can do is report the bug through normal channels (you dont even have priority in reporting bugs since you have the code). Does making a patch necessarily

Re: Enviromental Monitoring

2000-12-10 Thread Graham Murray
Peter Samuelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Andrew Stubbs] Has anyone implemented a /proc device or user program to interrogate the enviromental attirbutes (temp, voltage etc) that many motherboards provide via their bios's ? Do a search on 'lm_sensors'. Does this work with the latest

Re: test13-pre6 (Fork Bug with Athlons? Temporary Fix)

2000-12-30 Thread Graham Murray
Byron Stanoszek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I narrowed the problem down to a subset of patches from the MM set in test13-pre2. Reversing the attached 'context.patch' fixes the problem (only for i386), but I'm not yet sure why. test13-pre2 and up work without any problems on an Intel cpu

Re: 2.4.0-prelease freezes on serial event

2001-01-04 Thread Graham Murray
Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boot the kdb enhanced kernel and cat /proc/interrupts to see if NMI is non-zero. NMI is zero, so that did not help. However, I think I have solved the problem. During boot, I saw a message about ACPI failing to initialise so I removed ACPI from the

Re: traceroute breaks with 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread Graham Murray
Mohammad A. Haque [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Traceroute is working fine here. You sure you didn't inadvertantly turn on ECN w/o knowing it? Will ECN have any effect on Traceroute? Does ECN not only affect TCP connections? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Graham Murray
Jim Roland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What some people don't realize is that Microsoft *DID* do Unix a long time ago, they were even into OS/2 Development. :-) And they annoyed not just a few application vendors when just a few months after giving the message Go with OS/2, it is the way

Re: Fix for include/linux/fs.h in 2.4.0 kernels

2001-02-03 Thread Graham Murray
Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Basically, that symlink should not be a symlink. It's a symlink for historical reasons, none of them very good any more (and haven't been for a long time), and it's a disaster unless you want to be a C library developer. Which not very many

Re: Fix for include/linux/fs.h in 2.4.0 kernels

2001-02-03 Thread Graham Murray
Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This has all been thrashed out before. Read the threads http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu/2000-month-07/msg04096.html http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg18256.html I don't think that these address my

Re: ECN for servers ?

2001-02-14 Thread Graham Murray
"H. Peter Anvin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Con: people behind broken firewalls can't connect. Are you sure that is correct? "Servers" normally listen for incoming connections from clients rather than establish them[1]. So, if the server implements ECN then it will respond appropriately to

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Graham Murray
Matti Aarnio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just verified this particular aspect of VGER's MTA configurations. It has been unmodified since 21-Mar-2000, that is, over a year... On the subject of vger configuration, the FAQ states that vger "will" start using ECN as of 22 Feb

Specialix SX cards not detected in kernels =2.6.20

2007-07-09 Thread Graham Murray
There were multiple changes to the char/sx.c driver in kernel 2.6.20. In kernels 2.6.19 and earlier, the SX multiport serial card works OK, but in 2.6.20 and later the driver does not seemt to detect the presence of the card. I have enabled sx_debug=-1 and added some printk statements to try and

Re: Specialix SX cards not detected in kernels =2.6.20

2007-07-10 Thread Graham Murray
Jiri Slaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In switched ids. Could you try the patch below? Thanks. That fixed the problem - the card works again now. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: Versioning file system

2007-06-16 Thread Graham Murray
Jeffrey V. Merkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This already exists -- it just not open sourced, and you could spend years trying to create it. Trust me, once you start dealing with the distributed issues with this, its gets very complex. I am not meaning to discourage you, but there are

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Graham Murray
Daniel Hazelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The second: I buy a DSL modem. Until I want to actually connect to the internet it can have whatever settings I want it to have. The second I want to connect to the internet it has to be configured the way that the ISP wants. But only those

Re: ECN is on!

2001-05-22 Thread Graham Murray
Matti Aarnio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... and immediately I have been able to verify a bunch of > domains/servers which won't get thru when incoming connection > has ECN. As a matter of interest, are you also noting how many actually negotiate ECN rather than simply responding with a

Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN

2001-01-26 Thread Graham Murray
"Adam J. Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying > service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility > and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets > which have 1's in bit positions that in

Re: ECN: Clearing the air (fwd)

2001-01-28 Thread Graham Murray
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rogier Wolff) writes: > If the firewall operator is sufficiently paranoid, they can say: "We > don't trust the ECN implementation on our hosts behind the firewall, > so we want to disable it.". In which case would the "correct" action not be to zero the ECN bits of packets

Re: traceroute breaks with 2.4.4

2001-04-29 Thread Graham Murray
"Mohammad A. Haque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Traceroute is working fine here. You sure you didn't inadvertantly turn > on ECN w/o knowing it? Will ECN have any effect on Traceroute? Does ECN not only affect TCP connections? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: Microsoft begining to open source Windows 2000?

2001-03-09 Thread Graham Murray
"Mohammad A. Haque" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > making a patch means you've modfied the source which you are not allowed > to do. The most you can do is report the bug through normal channels > (you dont even have priority in reporting bugs since you have the code). Does making a patch

Re: www.crucial.com won't talk to 2.4.0-test7 system

2000-09-02 Thread Graham Murray
David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There are a -lot- of large sites that give us issues like this. What is the best way to handle sites which block connections using ECN? Is it best for everyone who detects this to write individually to each site which they find can be accessed with

Re: ECN & cisco firewall

2000-09-09 Thread Graham Murray
"David S. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The authors of rfc793 probably, in all honesty, really meant > "must be set to zero by current implementations". I agree, to me it seems obvious that the reason is so that these bits could be used at some time in the future for some, then unknown,

netstat -s on 2.4.0-test[78]

2000-09-11 Thread Graham Murray
Using net-tools 1.57 (which I think is the latest) and kernel 2.4.0-test7/8 (I think it was OK with -test6) 'netstat -s' displays the message "error parsing /proc/net/snmp: Success" rather than displaying the counters. I notice that kernel/Documentation/Changes no longer lists the version of

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Graham Murray
"Jim Roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What some people don't realize is that Microsoft *DID* do Unix a long time > ago, they were even into OS/2 Development. :-) And they annoyed not just a few application vendors when just a few months after giving the message "Go with OS/2, it is the

Re: Enviromental Monitoring

2000-12-10 Thread Graham Murray
Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Andrew Stubbs] > > Has anyone implemented a /proc device or user program to interrogate > > the enviromental attirbutes (temp, voltage etc) that many > > motherboards provide via their bios's ? > > Do a search on 'lm_sensors'. Does this work with

2.4.0-test9 i810_rng compilation failure

2000-10-03 Thread Graham Murray
i810_rng.c does not compile when not a module. It fails at line 384, which looks as though it should only be included when being built as a module. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at

Re: test13-pre6 (Fork Bug with Athlons? Temporary Fix)

2000-12-30 Thread Graham Murray
Byron Stanoszek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I narrowed the problem down to a subset of patches from the MM set in > test13-pre2. Reversing the attached 'context.patch' fixes the problem (only for > i386), but I'm not yet sure why. test13-pre2 and up work without any problems > on an Intel cpu

2.4.0-prelease freezes on serial event

2001-01-03 Thread Graham Murray
My 2.4.0-prerelease freezes solid on certain serial port events. The ones I have seen (and are both repeatable) are when powering off the modem and powering it on causes the system to hang solid. Also if an incoming call is received on the telephone, the system hangs ( I assume that this is when

Re: 2.4.0-prelease freezes on serial event

2001-01-04 Thread Graham Murray
Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Boot the kdb enhanced kernel and cat /proc/interrupts to see if NMI is > non-zero. NMI is zero, so that did not help. However, I think I have solved the problem. During boot, I saw a message about ACPI failing to initialise so I removed ACPI from the

Re: kernel network problem ?

2001-01-05 Thread Graham Murray
Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Note that, on the Internet, there are many broken firewalls which > refuse connections from ECN-enabled machines, and it may be a while > before these firewalls are fixed. Until then, to access a site behind > such a firewall (some of which

Re: Fix for include/linux/fs.h in 2.4.0 kernels

2001-02-03 Thread Graham Murray
Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Basically, that symlink should not be a symlink. It's a symlink for > historical reasons, none of them very good any more (and haven't been > for a long time), and it's a disaster unless you want to be a C > library developer. Which not very

Re: Fix for include/linux/fs.h in 2.4.0 kernels

2001-02-03 Thread Graham Murray
Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This has all been thrashed out before. Read the threads > > http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu/2000-month-07/msg04096.html > http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg18256.html I don't think that these address

Re: ECN for servers ?

2001-02-14 Thread Graham Murray
"H. Peter Anvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Con: people behind broken firewalls can't connect. Are you sure that is correct? "Servers" normally listen for incoming connections from clients rather than establish them[1]. So, if the server implements ECN then it will respond appropriately to

Re: goodbye

2001-04-07 Thread Graham Murray
Matti Aarnio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just verified this particular aspect of VGER's MTA > configurations. It has been unmodified since 21-Mar-2000, > that is, over a year... On the subject of vger configuration, the FAQ states that vger "will" start using ECN as of 22

Re: Versioning file system

2007-06-16 Thread Graham Murray
"Jeffrey V. Merkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This already exists -- it just not open sourced, and you could spend > years trying to create it. Trust me, once you start dealing with the > distributed issues with this, its gets very complex. I am not meaning > to discourage you, but there

Re: Dual-Licensing Linux Kernel with GPL V2 and GPL V3

2007-06-17 Thread Graham Murray
Daniel Hazelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The second: > I buy a DSL modem. Until I want to actually connect to the internet it can > have whatever settings I want it to have. The second I want to connect to the > internet it has to be configured the way that the ISP wants. But only those

Re: Specialix SX cards not detected in kernels >=2.6.20

2007-07-10 Thread Graham Murray
Jiri Slaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In switched ids. Could you try the patch below? Thanks. That fixed the problem - the card works again now. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Specialix SX cards not detected in kernels >=2.6.20

2007-07-09 Thread Graham Murray
There were multiple changes to the char/sx.c driver in kernel 2.6.20. In kernels 2.6.19 and earlier, the SX multiport serial card works OK, but in 2.6.20 and later the driver does not seemt to detect the presence of the card. I have enabled sx_debug=-1 and added some printk statements to try and