Re: Kernel 2.6.13 is hiding devices from /dev [Was Why is the kernel hiding drbd devices?}

2005-09-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 00:45 -0400, Maurice Volaski wrote: > >What is drbd? An out of tree driver? Did it work with 2.6.13-rcX? If > > Yes, it implements RAID 1 across two computers over a network link in > realtime. Generally, you combine with a program called heartbeat to > implement high-av

RE: kbuild & C++

2005-09-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 12:17 +0200, Budde, Marco wrote: > Well, it is not the first driver I am writing for Linux. > So yes, I do know, what is part of a Linux driver and > what is not. It should be fairly obvious. Windows drivers do all kinds of crap that just obviously doesn't belong in the kern

Re: Brand-new notebook useless with Linux...

2005-09-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 15:19 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 at 23:38:10 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 18:58 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > > > I just bought a new notebook. > > >

Re: Improve hackbench

2008-01-04 Thread Lee Revell
On Jan 4, 2008 3:10 AM, Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://redhat.com/~mingo/cfs-scheduler/tools/hackbench.c > Why not lose the #ifdef and just use PTHREAD_STACK_MIN? Lee -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL P

Re: Is it possible to change IRQ for certain device?

2008-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Jan 11, 2008 11:57 AM, Jan Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I suppose, that VGA card does not need unique IRQ, but programmers, > which wrote driver, want it. I can imagine, that VGA card have many > interrupts, especially in the OpenGL games, but I cannot assign unique > IRQ for VGA card at a

Re: Is it possible to change IRQ for certain device?

2008-01-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Jan 14, 2008 12:30 AM, Bryan Donlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2008 10:57 PM, Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 11, 2008 11:57 AM, Jan Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is a shared IRQ a problem for you? IRQ handlers are

Re: tickless/dynticks + cpufreq = tsc unstable

2008-01-25 Thread Lee Revell
On Jan 25, 2008 6:02 PM, Michael Tokarev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it normal that once I enable cpufreq on > a tickless system, it spews a warning: > > Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -288201154 ns) > > ? Yes, it's normal. Dual core AMD64 machines really do have unstable TSC. Lee -- To u

Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux

2008-01-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Jan 30, 2008 1:54 PM, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IANAL, and I would therefore ask a lawyer whether, and if yes under > which circumstances, shipping a binary driver written for another OS > dynamically linked into the Linux kernel would not be a criminal offense. > Please stop thr

Re: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities]

2005-03-14 Thread Lee Revell
[trimming cc list in case this starts a flame war) On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 19:12 +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: > Why should people look at all that "horrid" debug info everytime > they boot, except when they have a problem? I'm really not trolling, but I suspect if we made the boot process less verbo

Re: User mode drivers: part 1, interrupt handling (patch for 2.6.11)

2005-03-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-12 at 21:03 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 19:14:13 +, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I posted a proposal for this sometime ago because X has some uses for > > it. The idea being you'd pass a struct that describes > > > > 1. What tells you an IRQ oc

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc3-V0.7.38-01

2005-03-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 13:05 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > Damn! The answer was right there in front of my eyes! Here's the cleanest > solution. I forgot about wait_on_bit_lock. I've converted all the locks > to use this instead. We probably need to get priority inheritence working > on this too

Re: x86: spin_unlock(), spin_unlock_irq() & others are out of line ?

2005-03-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 11:48 +0100, Eric Dumazet wrote: > Is it a regression, or is it needed ? > Please see the "Completely out of line spinlocks" thread from about a month ago. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROT

Re: enabling IOAPIC on C3 processor?

2005-03-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 13:09 +0100, jerome lacoste wrote: > I have a VIA Epia M1 board that crashes very badly (and pretty > often, especially when using DMA). I want to fix that. > Are the crashes associated with any particular workload or device? My M6000 works perfectly. The one big probl

Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] [announce 0/7] fbsplash - The Framebuffer Splash

2005-03-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 18:58 +, James Simmons wrote: > Not every device has a 3D core!!! DRM is not the answer for the entire > graphics > world. Its only for 3D functionality. Not quite. It's also to support hardware accelerated MPEG like on the Unichrome boards. Lee - To unsubscribe from

Re: OOM problems with 2.6.11-rc4

2005-03-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 16:56 -0500, Sean wrote: > On Tue, March 15, 2005 3:44 pm, Noah Meyerhans said: > > The machine in question is a dual Xeon system with 2 GB of RAM, 3.5 GB > > of swap, and several TB of NFS exported filesystems. One notable point > > is that this machine has been running in o

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc3-V0.7.38-01

2005-03-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 02:50 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 13:05 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > Damn! The answer was right there in front of my eyes! Here's the cleanest > > > sol

Re: [patch 0/3] j_state_lock, j_list_lock, remove-bitlocks

2005-03-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 12:47 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > > > Hi Ingo, > > > > I just ran this with PREEMPT_RT and it works fine. > > Not quite, and I will assume that some of the other patches I sent have > this same problem. The jbd_trylock_

Re: Driver Development

2005-03-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 15:07 +0530, shafa.hidee wrote: > Hi All, >Is there any driver development project going on where I can try > apply driver development method. > Of all the kernel subsystems ALSA presents one of the cleanest APIs for driver writers. http://www.alsa-project.org/~iwai

Re: enabling IOAPIC on C3 processor?

2005-03-16 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 16:11 +0100, jerome lacoste wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:22:36 -0500, Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 13:09 +0100, jerome lacoste wrote: > > > I have a VIA Epia M1 board that crashes very badly (and pretty >

Re: [patch 0/3] j_state_lock, j_list_lock, remove-bitlocks

2005-03-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 02:15 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > > I am a bit confused, big surprise. Does this thread still have anything > > to do with this trace from my "Latency regressions" bug report? > >

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc3-V0.7.38-01

2005-03-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 15:45 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 10:03 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Testing on an all SCSI 1.3Ghz Athlon XP system, I am seeing very long > > > > latenci

Re: [patch 0/3] j_state_lock, j_list_lock, remove-bitlocks

2005-03-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 11:23 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > > Sorry, it's hard to follow this thread. Just to make sure we're all on > > the same page, what exactly is the symptom of this ext3 issue you are

Re: [patch 0/3] j_state_lock, j_list_lock, remove-bitlocks

2005-03-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 01:58 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > OK, no need to cc: me on this one any more. It's really low priority > > IMO compared to the big latencies I am seeing with ext3 and > > "data=

Latency tests with 2.6.12-rc1

2005-03-18 Thread Lee Revell
I did the same quick latency tests with 2.6.12-rc1 that I posted about for 2.6.11 a few weeks ago. 2.6.12-rc1 is significantly better than 2.6.11. Running JACK at 64 frames (1.3 ms) works very well. I was not able to produce xruns even with "dbench 64", which slows the system to a crawl. With 2

Re: Latency tests with 2.6.12-rc1

2005-03-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 08:08 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > great! The change in question is most likely the copy_page_range() fix > that Hugh resurrected: > > ChangeSet 1.2037, 2005/03/08 09:26:46-08:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [PATCH] copy_pte_range latency fix > > Ingo's patch to

Re: Latency tests with 2.6.12-rc1

2005-03-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 02:51 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 08:08 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > great! The change in question is most likely the copy_page_range() fix > > that Hugh resurrected: > > > > ChangeSet 1.2037, 2005/03/08 09:26

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-00

2005-03-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 20:16 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > i have released the -V0.7.41-00 Real-Time Preemption patch (merged to > 2.6.12-rc1), which can be downloaded from the usual place: > > http://redhat.com/~mingo/realtime-preempt/ > 3ms latency in the NFS client code. Workload was a kernel

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-00

2005-03-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 20:16 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > the biggest change in this patch is the merge of Paul E. McKenney's > preemptable RCU code. The new RCU code is active on PREEMPT_RT. While it > is still quite experimental at this stage, it allowed the removal of > locking cruft (mainly in th

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-00

2005-03-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 19:50 -0600, K.R. Foley wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 20:16 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > >>the biggest change in this patch is the merge of Paul E. McKenney's > >>preemptable RCU code. The new RCU code is activ

ALSA bugs in list [was Re: 2.6.12-rc1-mm1]

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 12:41 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Bug 4282] ALSA driver in Linux 2.6.11 causes a kernel panic when > loading the EMU10K1 driver > This one is a real mystery. No one can reproduce it. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Bugme-new] [B

kernel bug: futex_wait hang

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Revell
Paul Davis and Chris Morgan have been chasing down a problem with xmms_jack and it really looks like this bug, thought to have been fixed in 2.6.10, is the culprit. http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0409.0/2044.html (for more info google "futex_wait 2.6 hang") It's simple to reproduc

Re: ALSA bugs in list [was Re: 2.6.12-rc1-mm1]

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 20:23 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not aware of a mechanism for getting critical fixes like this in > > ASAP. The last few have been shepherded through manually by various > > people. Lo

Re: ALSA bugs in list [was Re: 2.6.12-rc1-mm1]

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 20:10 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 12:41 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [Bug 4282] ALSA driver in Linux 2.6.11 causes a ker

Re: kernel bug: futex_wait hang

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 20:20 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Paul Davis and Chris Morgan have been chasing down a problem with > > xmms_jack and it really looks like this bug, thought to have been fixed > > in 2.6.

Re: kernel bug: futex_wait hang

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 04:48 +, Jamie Lokier wrote: > I argued for fixing Glibc on the grounds that the changed kernel > behaviour, or more exactly having Glibc depend on it, loses a certain > semantic property useful for unusual operations on multiple futexes at > the same time. But I appear t

Re: kernel bug: futex_wait hang

2005-03-21 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 21:08 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Jamie Lokier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The most recent messages under "Futex queue_me/get_user ordering", > > with a patch from Jakub Jelinek will fix this problem by changing the > > kernel. Yes, you should apply Jakub's most rec

Re: kernel bug: futex_wait hang

2005-03-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 15:30 +, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 04:48 +, Jamie Lokier wrote: > > > I argued for fixing Glibc on the grounds that the changed kernel > > > behaviour, or more exactly having Glibc depend on it, los

Re: kernel bug: futex_wait hang

2005-03-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 01:34 -0500, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 12:30:53AM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 21:08 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > Jamie Lokier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > The mos

Re: dmesg verbosity [was Re: AGP bogosities]

2005-03-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 01:37 +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: > El Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:07:53 -0500, > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > I'm really not trolling, but I suspect if we made the boot process less > > verbose, people would start to wonder mo

Re: 2.6.11-rc3-mm2

2005-02-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 11:42 -0800, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 12:49:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > >RT-LSM introduces architectural problems in the form of bogus API. And > > > > that may be true of LSM, but not RT-LSM in particular. RT-LSM doesn't > > introduce *any* API wha

Re: [patch, 2.6.11-rc2] sched: RLIMIT_RT_CPU_RATIO feature

2005-02-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 22:41 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > It's clever that they do that, but additional control is needed in the > > future. jackd isn't the most sophisticate media app on this planet (not > > too much of an insult :)) [...] > > i think you are underestimating Jack - it is eas

Re: how to make a contribution

2005-02-12 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 22:49 +0100, sylvanino b wrote: > I would like to share this tool if somebody is interested, but I dont > know how to proceed, I mean how to make a contribution an efficient > way. Any help/idea/information is welcome. > Put the patch on the web somewhere and post the URL to

Oops with oprofile + RT preempt 2.6.11-rc2-RT-V0.7.37-01

2005-02-12 Thread Lee Revell
Are there any known incompatibilities with oprofile and the RT preempt patch? Lee Oops: [#1] PREEMPT Modules linked in: realtime commoncap af_packet via_rhine mii crc32 ehci_hcd usbhid uhci_hcd usbcore via_ agp agpgart evdev snd_rtctimer snd_emu10k1_synth snd_emu10k1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pc

Re: Oops with oprofile + RT preempt 2.6.11-rc2-RT-V0.7.37-01

2005-02-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 14:30 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Philippe Elie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > oprofile_ops.cpu_type == NULL, this has been fixed 3 weeks ago, can > > you retry with -rc4 ? > > i've uploaded an -rc4 port of the -RT tree half an hour ago (-39-00). > OK, I will test that

Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release

2005-02-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 17:16 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > All distros are trying to reduce boot time. They certainly aren't all trying very hard. Debian and Fedora (last time I checked) do not even run the init scripts in parallel. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux

Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release

2005-02-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 09:51 +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: > Paolo Ciarrocchi schrieb: > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:06:51 -0500, Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 17:16 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > >> > >>>All di

Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release

2005-02-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 15:16 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > I don't see why so much effort goes into improving boot time on the > > kernel side when the most obvious user space problem is ignored. > > What user space problem is that? That init scripts with no interdependencies are run sequentially rath

[OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release)

2005-02-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 15:21 -0800, Roland Dreier wrote: > Lee> I don't see why so much effort goes into improving boot time > Lee> on the kernel side when the most obvious user space problem > Lee> is ignored. > > How much of a win is it to run init scripts in parallel? I seem to > re

Re: [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release)

2005-02-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 16:16 -0800, Tim Bird wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > But, I was referring more to things like GDM not being started until all > > the other init scripts are done. Why not start it first, and let the > > network initialize while the user is logging in? &g

Re: [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release)

2005-02-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 01:15 -0500, Jim Crilly wrote: > Another issue would be dual-booting, which a lot of people still do for some > strange reason. Um, to reverse engineer Windows drivers? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message t

Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release

2005-02-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 00:43 +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: > There's stuff that it could be done in the kernel to help improving those > numbers, > IMHO. > > xp logs all the io done the first two minutes after booting. The next time it > boots > it tries to read all those files at once so the progr

Re: 2.6.9 IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! with VMWare 4

2005-02-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 13:29 -0700, Joseph Cosby wrote: > Hi, > Using VMWare 4 with a 2.6.9 kernel I get "IO-APIC + timer doesn't work!" > As suggested, the noapic option fixes the problem. This resulted after > adding APIC support to my kernel. My problem is, I need APIC support to boot > on a

Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 01:49 -0500, Sean wrote: > The affects of many top level folks using a non free system is felt all > the way down the food-chain. If the top tier would agree to use a free > SCM system then we could build bridges and offer the data in the preferred > format to _everyone_ (ar

Re: Netfilter: TARPIT Target

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 10:27 -0500, Fao, Sean wrote: > Where are those nonsense (base64) messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] coming > from after I post? > Looks like a new spammer tactic. They have progressed from spoofing emails from real LKML posters to sending spam replies to actual threads. Lee

Re: Oops with oprofile + RT preempt 2.6.11-rc2-RT-V0.7.37-01

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 14:30 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Philippe Elie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > oprofile_ops.cpu_type == NULL, this has been fixed 3 weeks ago, can > > you retry with -rc4 ? > > i've uploaded an -rc4 port of the -RT tree half an hour ago (-39-00). > Thanks, -rc4 did fix

Re: E-cards for You

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 14:03 -0800, Chuck Harding wrote: > Why can't the list owners apply spamassassin to the list's *incoming* > mail stream so we don't ever see this stuff? Nearly every one of the > lists hosted on vger.kernel.org get spammed on a regular basis because > there is no spam filterin

Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 18:32 -0500, Sean wrote: > On Thu, February 17, 2005 6:25 pm, Ed Tomlinson said: > > Linus has tried other SCMs. They did not suffice. I remember the preBK > > days, when you had to post a patch half a dozen time to get it merged. > > Patches were being missed left right an

Re: I wrote a kernel tool for monitoring / web page

2005-02-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 01:41 +0100, sylvanino b wrote: > I did a webpage for it, you can check it out at: > http://membres.lycos.fr/kernelanalyzer/ > > If you have any comment/critics, don't hesitate to share it Is this meant to run on a Windows system or something? The screenshots look like Wind

Re: I wrote a kernel tool for monitoring / web page

2005-02-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 02:33 +0100, sylvanino b wrote: > Sorry, it's meant to run on linux. > Actually, patch provided is for linux 2.6.9 + kdb 4.4 > Cool program. It has an annoying bug where every time you go to "Open Log File", it starts you in your home directory again. Otherwise it's a nice

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc3-V0.7.38-01

2005-02-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 11:03 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > http://redhat.com/~mingo/realtime-preempt/ > Testing on an all SCSI 1.3Ghz Athlon XP system, I am seeing very long latencies in the journalling code with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02. preemption latency trace v1.1.4 on 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-0

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc3-V0.7.38-01

2005-02-18 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 00:08 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 11:03 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > http://redhat.com/~mingo/realtime-preempt/ > > > > Testing on an all SCSI 1.3Ghz Athlon XP system, I am seeing very long > latencies in the journalling

cfq: depth 4 reached, tagging now on

2005-02-19 Thread Lee Revell
Starting around 2.6.11-rc4 I get this printk during the boot process after kjournald starts, and again if I stress the filesystem. cfq: depth 4 reached, tagging now on Is this printk intentional? I am sure users will wonder about it, especially because (presumably) cfq turns tagging off at some

Re: intel8x0: no sound in 2.6.11 rc3 & 4 (fine with 2.6.10)

2005-02-19 Thread Lee Revell
Please cc: alsa-devel when reporting ALSA issues. Lee On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 13:11 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello > > I have read a post in lkml.org that states that the problem experienced in > rc3 has gone (1). That is not the case for me. > > My audio device is > > :00:1f.5 Mul

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc3-V0.7.38-01

2005-02-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 15:45 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > I have not tried "data=journal". As previously stated "data=writeback" > works perfectly - I ran JACK overnight while stressing the fs and did > not get one xrun. "data=journal" has the same good per

Re: I wrote a kernel tool for monitoring / web page

2005-02-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 16:04 -0800, Randy.Dunlap wrote: > > > > For some reason all i ever get to see is the front page.. Any link just > > leads to an empty page like this [screenshot]: > > That's also what I saw with firefox, but konqueror worked OK. > I saw it at first with Firefox but then w

Re: [patch, 2.6.11-rc2] sched: RLIMIT_RT_CPU_RATIO feature

2005-01-27 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 23:15 -0600, Jack O'Quin wrote: > >> > And finally, with rlimit support, is there any reason why lockup > >> > detection and correction can't go into userspace? Even RT > >> > throttling could probably be done in a userspace daemon. > >> > >> It can. But, doing it in the ker

Re: Real-time rw-locks (Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.10-rc2-mm3-V0.7.32-15)

2005-01-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 11:18 -0800, Trond Myklebust wrote: > In the NFS client code we may use rwsems in order to protect stateful > operations against the (very infrequently used) server reboot recovery > code. The point is that when the server reboots, the server forces us to > block *all* request

Re: [BUG] 2.6.11-rc2 ALSA

2005-01-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 08:46 +0100, Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > Fixed the default state of "Headphone Jack Sense" switch on AD1981x > codecs. Setting this on affects the output of some machines (e.g. > Thindpads). You probably meant "Thimkpads". Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "u

Re: [2.6.11-rc2] kernel BUG at fs/reiserfs/prints.c:362

2005-01-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 17:15 +0300, Vladimir Saveliev wrote: > Earlier reiserfs used to lock_kernel on entering and unlock on exit. The > reason is that reiserfs has no fine grain locking protecting access to > its data structures. > Since that time there could be introduced some minor improvements,

Re: [Bug 4081] New: OpenOffice crashes while starting due to a threading error

2005-01-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 09:31 -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > Here is the strace output of the part that SEGV's, looks like a DRI issue?? [snip] > munmap(0x955838, 8192) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) > munmap(0x80d7ff0, 3221222108) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument) > ---

Re: [patch, 2.6.11-rc2] sched: RLIMIT_RT_CPU_RATIO feature

2005-01-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-01-28 at 10:11 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Jack O'Quin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > thus after a couple of years we'd end up with lots of desktop apps > > > running as SCHED_FIFO, and latency would go down the drain again. > > > > I wonder how Mac OS X and Windows deal with t

Re: OpenOffice crashes due to incorrect access permissions on /dev/dri/card*

2005-01-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 14:25 -0500, Jon Smirl wrote: > > > And oowriter and glxgears work from bootup. Shall I file a bug with udev? > > Your user ID needs to belong to group DRI. > Stupid question: what the heck does OO use DRI for? I googled and came up empty. Lee - To unsubscribe from thi

Re: OpenOffice crashes due to incorrect access permissions on /dev/dri/card*

2005-01-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 20:40 +, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > * Lee Revell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Stupid question: what the heck does OO use DRI for? I googled and came > > up empty. > > It does pointless 3D objects in its drawing package. >

DRI (was Re: OpenOffice crashes due to incorrect access permissions on /dev/dri/card*)

2005-01-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 15:57 -0500, Parag Warudkar wrote: > Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > > >* Lee Revell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > >>Stupid question: what the heck does OO use DRI for? I googled and came > >>up empty. > >>

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc2-V0.7.36-04

2005-02-01 Thread Lee Revell
h should also fix the down_write_interruptible() related > build error reported by Lee Revell and others. Assuming it's still available, what is the config option to get the "User-space atomicity debugging" feature? This feature is extremely useful for debugging complex JACK clients, several Lin

Re: [PATCH] Dynamic tick, version 050127-1

2005-02-01 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 13:29 -0800, Tony Lindgren wrote: > Hi all, > > Thanks for all the comments, here's an updated version of the dynamic > tick patch. Hi, I was wondering how Windows handles high res timers, if at all. The reason I ask is because I have been reverse engineering a Windows ASI

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc2-V0.7.36-04

2005-02-01 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 21:17 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Assuming it's still available, what is the config option to get the > > "User-space atomicity debugging" feature? This feature is extremely > > usefu

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc2-V0.7.36-04

2005-02-01 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 21:44 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK. So for application triggered tracing you need LATENCY_TRACING > > enabled, as described here: > > > > http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/10/29/312 > >

Re: [patch, 2.6.11-rc2] sched: RLIMIT_RT_CPU_RATIO feature

2005-02-02 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-01 at 23:10 -0600, Jack O'Quin wrote: > > So in the Linux core code we have zero tolerance on crap. We are > > doing this for the long-term fun of it. > > So, we should never do anything boring, even though people actually > need it? > > The fact that a large group of frustrated

Re: Please open sysfs symbols to proprietary modules

2005-02-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 21:50 -0500, Kyle Moffett wrote: > It's not like somebody will have > some innate commercial advantage over you because they have your > driver source code. For a hardware vendor that's not a very compelling argument. Especially compared to what their IP lawyers are telling

Re: [PATCH] Dynamic tick, version 050127-1

2005-02-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 09:11 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > I do have CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER enabled, but it seems by board does not > have such piece of hardware: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux-mm$ dmesg | grep -i "time\|tick\|apic" > PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:11.5 to 64 > [EMA

Re: cfq: depth 4 reached, tagging now on

2005-02-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-21 at 09:20 +0100, Jens Axboe wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > Starting around 2.6.11-rc4 I get this printk during the boot process > > after kjournald starts, and again if I stress the filesystem. > > > > cfq: depth 4 reached, tagg

Re: reading the same entropy twice

2005-02-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 16:55 -0500, Bob O'Neill wrote: > Hello. > > I have noticed that it is possible on an SMP box for two processes to > simultaneously read the same entropy out of /dev/urandom. This > doesn't seem right to me. I was using the entropy value to generate a > random number to use

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.11-rc3-V0.7.38-01

2005-02-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-19 at 10:03 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Testing on an all SCSI 1.3Ghz Athlon XP system, I am seeing very long > > > latencies in the journalling code with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02. > > > > could you send me the full trace? > On my

More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
Ingo, Did something change recently in the VM that made copy_pte_range and clear_page_range a lot more expensive? I noticed a reference in the "Page Table Iterators" thread to excessive overhead introduced by aggressive page freeing. That sure looks like what is going on in trace2. trace1 and t

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 19:16 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > Did something change recently in the VM that made copy_pte_range and > > clear_page_range a lot more expensive? I noticed a reference in the > > "Page Tabl

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 20:06 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 19:16 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > > > > > > I'm just about to test this patch below: please give it a try: thanks... > > I'm ver

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 20:06 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > > > > Thanks, your patch fixes the copy_pte_range latency. > > Great, if the previous patch fixed that latency then this new one > will too, no need to report on that; but please get rid of the old > patch before it leaks too many of your p

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 20:53 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Hugh Dickins wrote: > > Please replace by new patch below, which I'm now running through lmbench. > > That second patch seems fine, and I see no lmbench regression from it. Should go into 2.6.11, right? Lee - To unsub

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 21:03 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks, your patch fixes the copy_pte_range latency. > > > > clear_page_range is also problematic. > > Yes, I saw that from your other

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 10:27 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > Hugh Dickins wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > > >>>>Thanks, your patch fixes the copy_pte_range latency. > >> > >>clear_page_range is also problematic. > > > &

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 12:29 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > > > IIRC last time I really tested this a few months ago, the worst case > > latency on that machine was about 150us. Currently its 422us from the > > same clear_page_range code path. >

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 13:41 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > > > Agreed, it would be much better to optimize this away than just add a > > scheduling point. It seems like we could do this lazily. > > > > Oh? What do you mean by lazy? IMO it

Re: ext2/3 files per directory limits

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 22:11 -0500, Ron Peterson wrote: > I would like to better understand ext2/3's performance characteristics. > > I'm specifically interested in how ext2/3 will handle a /var/spool/mail > directory w/ ~6000 mbox format inboxes, handling approx 1GB delivered as > 75,000 messages

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-23 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 04:56 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 20:53 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Hugh Dickins wrote: > > > > Please replace by new patch below, which I'm n

Re: realtime patch

2005-02-24 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 16:52 -0800, George Anzinger wrote: > Fabian Fenaut wrote: > > shabanip a ecrit le 25.02.2005 00:37: > > > >> where can i find realtime patchs to kernel 2.6? > > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/realtime-lsm/ ? > > What?? NO, they are here: > >http://redhat.co

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-24 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 08:26 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 04:56 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > > > > > > In other mail, you do expect people still to be using Ingo's patches, > > > so probably

Re: More latency regressions with 2.6.11-rc4-RT-V0.7.39-02

2005-02-25 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 05:58 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-02-24 at 08:26 +, Hugh Dickins wrote: > > > > > > If we'd got to it earlier, yes. But 2.6.11 looks to be just a day or > > > two awa

Re: Xterm Hangs - Possible scheduler defect?

2005-02-25 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 15:53 +, Paulo Marques wrote: > Ingo Oeser wrote: > > Chris Friesen wrote: > > > >>Ingo Oeser wrote: > >>[...] > > You would need to change the priority of task 1 until it releases the > > mutex. Ideally the owner gets the maximum priority of > > his and all the waiters o

Re: linux-2.6.8.1 to linux-2.6.10: Kernel Patching Issues.

2005-02-25 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 16:40 +, Mark Fortescue wrote: > Hi all, > > I am not sure exactly where to send this email. A have chosen the > ip4/ip6 networking as the issues are in this area of the kernel. > > The kernel patch files patch-2.6.9 and patch-2.6.10 do not apear to be > correct. No, y

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