RE: kbuild C++

2005-09-07 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 12:17 +0200, Budde, Marco wrote: Well, it is not the first driver I am writing for Linux. So yes, I do know, what is part of a Linux driver and what is not. It should be fairly obvious. Windows drivers do all kinds of crap that just obviously doesn't belong in the

Re: Brand-new notebook useless with Linux...

2005-09-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 15:19 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 at 23:38:10 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 18:58 -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote: I just bought a new notebook. I'd return it if I were you. What fun is that? I

Re: 2.6.19-rc6-rt0, -rt YUM repository

2006-11-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 23:07 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: * Daniel Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Should we start a known regression list? please resend the bugs that still trigger for you with 2.6.19-rt0. I'm working with the developers of the 64Studio distro who are attempting to

Re: 2.6.19-rc6-rt0, -rt YUM repository

2006-11-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 17:17 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: thanks, please do that. Right now i have no open boot-crash regression left that i can reproduce. Possibly old news, but with 2.6.18-rt7 this user gets an Oops in read_hpet() if high res timers are enabled.

Re: Sluggish system responsiveness on I/O

2006-11-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 08:51 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote: That makes sense, I/O tasks don't generally hold the cpu for extended periods, whereas a cpu bound task does. So what can we do about I/O intensive tasks that also want a lot of CPU, for example, the bloatier Gnome/KDE apps? Evolution is

Re: Siemens SX1: sound cleanups

2006-11-19 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 12:49 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: +int set_mixer_volume(int mixer_vol) { - int retVal; + /* FIXME: Alsa has mixer_vol in 0-100 range, while SX1 needs 0-9 range */ Untrue. ALSA uses whatever range you define in the info callback for the mixer element. I

Re: New RTC drivers don't provide the sysctl to set max user frequency

2008-02-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Feb 5, 2008 5:54 PM, Chuck Ebbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is every application that uses /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq supposed to be updated to use the new /sys interface? IMHO the default should be increased to 1024 - the current default of 64 dates back to the 486 era. This would

Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux

2008-01-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Jan 30, 2008 1:54 PM, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IANAL, and I would therefore ask a lawyer whether, and if yes under which circumstances, shipping a binary driver written for another OS dynamically linked into the Linux kernel would not be a criminal offense. Please stop throwing

Re: missing asm-x86_64 detection

2008-01-31 Thread Lee Revell
On Jan 31, 2008 6:13 PM, Reinaldo Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: system is x86_64! :/# grep model\ name /proc/cpuinfo model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 model name : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 What does head -20 /usr/src/config-2.6.24 say? Lee -- To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: tickless/dynticks + cpufreq = tsc unstable

2008-01-25 Thread Lee Revell
On Jan 25, 2008 6:02 PM, Michael Tokarev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it normal that once I enable cpufreq on a tickless system, it spews a warning: Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -288201154 ns) ? Yes, it's normal. Dual core AMD64 machines really do have unstable TSC. Lee -- To

Re: How to diagnose a process stuck in D state?

2008-02-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Stephen Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First off: I'm not subscribed to the list (I don't think I could handle the volume), so please make sure you CC me if you reply. I run an application on one of my machines; it often hangs, with the process stuck

Re: 2.6.20-rc6-mm3 BUG in drm_ioctl with Rage 128 card

2007-02-03 Thread Lee Revell
On 2/3/07, Eric Buddington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EIP:0060:[]Tainted: G M VLI EFLAGS: 00013246 (2.6.20-rc6-mm3 #1) The M taint flag indicates that a machine check exception has occured. Check your logs for the MCE and make sure the hardware is OK. Lee - To unsubscribe

Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management?

2007-02-09 Thread Lee Revell
On 2/9/07, Robert Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would disagree that it's a peripheral issue, it's pretty core these days, at least for any hardware that you can stuff in a laptop (though a fair number of desktops get suspended and resumed these days too). Servers are still the most

Re: NAK new drivers without proper power management?

2007-02-09 Thread Lee Revell
On 2/9/07, Nigel Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 20:59 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: On 2/9/07, Robert Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would disagree that it's a peripheral issue, it's pretty core these days, at least for any hardware that you can stuff in a laptop

Re: /proc/pid/status - VmLib: 4294948464 kB

2007-07-12 Thread Lee Revell
On 7/12/07, Marcos David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I´m using RedHat Enterprise Server 4 Update 3 (kernel 2.6.9-34.ELsmp) I was listing the contents of /proc/pid/status file and I came up with a value of: ... VmLib: 4294948464 kB, ... Is this a known bug? Ask Red Hat. Lee - To unsubscribe

Re: PC speaker

2007-06-12 Thread Lee Revell
On 6/12/07, R.F. Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to write a kernel module which, when loaded, will blow the PC speaker? LOL. May I ask what your use case is? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL

Re: How to diagnose this error?

2007-06-13 Thread Lee Revell
On 6/13/07, Tetsuo Handa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Something is wrong with my guest Linux on VMware. Host: CentOS5 (2.6.18-8.1.4.el5) on x86_64 (ThinkPad X60) Guest: CentOS5 (2.6.18-8.1.4.el5) on x86_64 on VMware Workstation 5.5.4 using 2 CPUs BUG messages appear frequently (several

Re: Stable identification of identical USB hardware

2007-06-18 Thread Lee Revell
On 6/18/07, Michael Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I have to cardbus sockets, how do I get from what I know (the card is in socket 0) to I have to talk to ttyUSB2 to talk to the card? I suspect I have to follow the thread from /sys/bus/pci to /sys/bus/usb/devices, but how exactly? You

Re: Compact Flash performance...

2007-05-30 Thread Lee Revell
On 5/30/07, Daniel J Blueman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a SanDisk Extreme IV 4GB CF card, capable of 40MB/s read, but am seeing 30MB/s read [1], connected directly to the IDE bus on my ICH8 controller. How do you know it's capable of 40MB/s read? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send

Re: Device Driver Etiquette

2007-06-01 Thread Lee Revell
On 6/1/07, Matthew Fredrickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it acceptable (although not nice) to simply fix it this way, by disabling irqs while it loads the firmware? I would say to just disable IRQs while loading firmware. Almost every server I maintain has some vendor driver which

Re: tcp/ip stack question

2007-06-07 Thread Lee Revell
On 6/7/07, kernel coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I am recieveing the packet on eth1 and want to send it through eth2. I've written code in netif_recieve_skb function .This code changes the mac header in sk_buff structure so that it can be send through other interface card.But when i

Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?

2007-06-27 Thread Lee Revell
On 6/27/07, Patrick Draper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rene Herman wrote: So -- the fact that mixing actually works for you when using libaoss means software mixing is working correctly for your ALSA setup. The only thing you should do is _use_ ALSA (natively) and not its OSS emulation so you

Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?

2007-06-27 Thread Lee Revell
On 6/26/07, Andreas Hartmetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not put the whole sound system in userland? It has been done before. Sound is just not performance critical at all and it's almost never mission critical. There are dozens of companies selling Linux powered professional audio gear,

Re: Is it time for remove (crap) ALSA from kernel tree ?

2007-06-28 Thread Lee Revell
On 6/28/07, Rene Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ALSA has been the Linux soundsystem for a number of years now and as such, an application that runs under Linux and produces sound more and more can be expected to do so using the Linux API. The only reason it _can_ be seen as a detail is due to

Re: Preempt of BKL and with tickless systems

2007-05-08 Thread Lee Revell
On 5/8/07, Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I have a reasonable grip on the voluntary and full preempt models, can anyone give me any wisdom on the preempt of the BKL? I know what it does, the question is where it might make a difference under normal loads. Define normal as servers

Re: SideWinder GameVoice driver

2007-05-18 Thread Lee Revell
On 5/17/07, Tomas Carnecky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Despite it's a Microsoft product, it's actually very nice and useful. A little pad with a few buttons and connectors for a headset. It's an USB device, but it doesn't represent itself as an input/HID device: HID device not claimed by input

Re: 24 lost ticks with 2.6.20.10 kernel

2007-05-01 Thread Lee Revell
On 5/1/07, Kok, Auke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michel Lespinasse wrote: (I've added the E1000 maintainers to the thread as I found the issue seems to go away after I compile out that driver. For reference, I was trying to figure out why I lose exactly 24 ticks about every two seconds, as

Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.

2005-03-26 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 10:28 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > On Sat, Mar 26, 2005 at 05:52:20PM +, Mark Fortescue wrote: > > > > I am writing a "Proprietry" driver module for a "Proprietry" PCI card and > > I have found that I can't use SYSFS on Linux-2.6.10. > > > > Why ?. > > What ever gave you

Re: [PATCH] no need to check for NULL before calling kfree() -fs/ext2/

2005-03-26 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 00:54 +0100, Jesper Juhl wrote: > I'd say that the general rule should > be "don't check for NULL first unless you *know* the pointer will be NULL > >50% of the time"... How about running the same tests but using likely()/unlikely() for the '1 in 50' cases? Lee - To

Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.

2005-03-26 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 17:15 -0800, Aaron Gyes wrote: > > So, the fact that someone else is doing something illegal, makes it > > acceptable for you to do the same thing? Please, talk to a lawyer > > about > > this issue if you have _any_ questions. > > How is what they are doing illegal? How it

Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.

2005-03-26 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-03-26 at 19:20 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > Anyway, this is news to me. How about putting it in the FAQ? Too > > politically charged? > > Why does it need to be in the FAQ, when the file COPYING in the main > kernel directory explicitly spells this out? That's the problem, it's not

Re: [PATCH] no need to check for NULL before calling kfree() -fs/ext2/

2005-03-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 12:40 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 05:12:58PM +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > > Well, kfree inlined was already mentioned but forgotten again. > > What if this was used: > > > > inline static void kfree_WRAP(void *addr) { > > if(likely(addr

Re: Problems on Apple iBook with ALSA and snd-powermac [2.6.11.5]

2005-03-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 01:08 +0200, Martin Loschwitz wrote: > Hi folks, > > given that the alsa-user-mailinglist has some strange kind of authentication > mechanism, and admin-authorization and whatever, I'm writing this mail to the > LKML (it would have been CCed here anyway). Still off topic.

Re: Mac mini sound woes

2005-03-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 09:42 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > It seems that Apple's driver has an in-kernel framework for doing volume > control, mixing, and other horrors right in the kernel, in temporary > buffers, just before they get DMA'ed (gack !) > > I want to avoid something like

Re: How to measure time accurately.

2005-03-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 08:58 +0530, krishna wrote: > Hi All, > > Can any one tell me how to measure time accurately for a block of C code > in device drivers. > For example, If I want to measure the time duration of firmware download. rdtsc() - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: Can't use SYSFS for "Proprietry" driver modules !!!.

2005-03-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:12 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Alan Cox wrote: > > On Sul, 2005-03-27 at 14:53, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > Are you sure? It is perfectly legal to relicense things if you own the > > > copyright. As long as he never distributes his GPL version

Re: sched_setscheduler() and usage issues ....please help

2005-03-28 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 23:40 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 08:58 +0530, Arun Srinivas wrote: > > I am trying to set the SCHED_FIFO policy for my process.I am using > > sched_setscheduler() function to do this. > > Attached is a little program that I use to set the priority

Re: Mac mini sound woes

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 21:04 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > Can the driver advertize in some way what it can do ? depending on the > machine we are running on, it will or will not be able to do HW volume > control... You probably don't want to use softvol in the former case... > > dmix by

Re: Mac mini sound woes

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 21:31 +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote: > Well I don't remember the discussion thread on alsa-devel about this, > but it's a good idea that alsa-lib checks the capability of hw-mixing > and apples dmix only if necessary. (In the case of softvol, it can > check the existence of hw

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: 2.6.12-rc1-mm3, sound card lost id

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 19:57 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote: > Hi Takashi, > > > > This one made /proc/asound/card0/id change from "Live" to "Unknown" > > > on one of my systems, preventing alsatcl from properly restoring my > > > mixer settings. > > > > Hmm, perhaps it's a side effect of chip

Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 20:58 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 06:14:22PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 23:59 +0100, Julien Wajsberg wrote: > > > - audio works too. The only problem is that two applications can't > > > ope

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: 2.6.12-rc1-mm3, sound card lost id

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 22:46 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote: > Hi Lee, > > > I think we just have to add this PCI id to the table. I got the same > > result before James added the SBLive! platinum detection. > > > > What is the output of 'lspci -v | grep -1 EMU10k1'? > > 00:0d.0 Multimedia audio

Re: [RFD] 'nice' attribute for executable files

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 21:55 +0200, Wiktor wrote: > Hi all, > > recently i had to run some program (xmms) with lowered nice value as > normal user. to do that i had to su to the root account and then execute > nice --5 xmms. Let me guess, the sound skips unless you run at a low nice value.

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: 2.6.12-rc1-mm3, sound card lost id

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 23:13 +0200, Jean Delvare wrote: > > + {.vendor = 0x1102, .device = 0x0002, .subsystem = 0x80271102, > > +.driver = "EMU10K1", .name = "SBLive! Value [CT4832]", > > +.emu10k1_chip = 1, > > +.ac97_chip = 1} , > Unsurprisingly, my card is now named CT4832. I had

Re: Mac mini sound woes

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 11:22 +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > No. You didn't get it. I'm taking the view that mixing sound is simply > a task you would typically love to make a DSP firmware do. > However providing a DSP for sound processing at 44kHZ on the same > PCB as an 1GHZ CPU is a ridiculous

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-10

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 15:59 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > i have released the -V0.7.41-10 Real-Time Preemption patch, which can be > downloaded from the usual place: > >http://redhat.com/~mingo/realtime-preempt/ > Ingo, -15 has a typo that prevents building with my config. Lee ---

NFS client latencies

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
I am seeing long latencies in the NFS client code. Attached is a ~1.9 ms latency trace. Lee nfs-1919us-latency_trace.bz2 Description: application/bzip

Re: NFS client latencies

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 18:18 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote: > ty den 29.03.2005 Klokka 18:04 (-0500) skreiv Lee Revell: > > I am seeing long latencies in the NFS client code. Attached is a ~1.9 > > ms latency trace. > > What kind of workload are you using to produce th

Re: NFS client latencies

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 18:34 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote: > ty den 29.03.2005 Klokka 18:32 (-0500) skreiv Lee Revell: > > On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 18:18 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote: > > > ty den 29.03.2005 Klokka 18:04 (-0500) skreiv Lee Revell: > > > > I am seeing lo

Re: Mac mini sound woes

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 03:45 +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > On 2005-03-29, at 12:22, Takashi Iwai wrote: > > > > ALSA provides the "driver" feature in user-space because it's more > > flexible, more efficient and safer than doing in kernel. It's > > transparent from apps perspective. It really

Re: Mac mini sound woes

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 03:45 +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > > I think your misunderstanding is that you beliieve user-space can't do > > RT. It's wrong. See JACK (jackit.sf.net), for example. > > I know JACK in and out. It doesn't provide what you claim. > This was just an example, to prove

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.41-10

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 10:58 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Running for several days with PREEMPT_DESKTOP, on the Athlon XP the > > worst latency I am seeing is ~150 usecs! But on the C3 its about 4ms: > > could you r

Re: Mac mini sound woes

2005-03-29 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 03:48 +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: > On 2005-03-30, at 01:39, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Look at the pile of junk that are most winmodem driver implementations, > > nothing I want to see in the kernel ever. Those things should be in > > userland. > > You are joking?

Re: Network Performance Ingo's RT-Preempt

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 00:42 -0800, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 10:27:40PM +, Christensen Tom wrote: > > I'm running 2.6.11 with Ingo's Preempt patch > > (realtime-preempt-2.6.11-final-V0.7.40-04). The system is SMP with a > > broadcom NIC (tg3 driver). I am seeing truly

Re: NFS client latencies

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 18:18 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote: > ty den 29.03.2005 Klokka 18:04 (-0500) skreiv Lee Revell: > > I am seeing long latencies in the NFS client code. Attached is a ~1.9 > > ms latency trace. > > What kind of workload are you using to produce th

Re: NFS client latencies

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 09:50 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote: > on den 30.03.2005 Klokka 09:26 (-0500) skreiv Lee Revell: > > On Tue, 2005-03-29 at 18:18 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote: > > > ty den 29.03.2005 Klokka 18:04 (-0500) skreiv Lee Revell: > > > > I am seeing lo

Re: 2.6.11, IDE: Strange scheduling behaviour: high-pri RT process not scheduled?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 09:41 -0500, Mark Hahn wrote: > >> The test system runs a 2.6.11 kernel (no SMP) on a Pentium3 500 MHz > > embedded hardware. > > which probably has memory bandwidth of at most a couple hundred MB/s, > which is really horrible by modern standards. What does that have to do

Re: [RFD] 'nice' attribute for executable files

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 18:07 +0200, Wiktor wrote: > Bodo Eggert wrote: > > Wiktor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>so i thought that it would be nice to add an attribute to file > >>(changable only for root) that would modify nice value of process when > >>it starts. if there is one byte free in

Re: How's the nforce4 support in Linux?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 21:19 +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 17:00 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > > quake3 still segfaults when run through "aoss". And can't be fixed, as > > > > it's closed source still. > > > > > > > I guess that's Quake3's problem... > > > > It an

Re: 2.6.11, USB: High latency?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 10:55 -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, kus Kusche Klaus wrote: > > > I'm performing realtime latency tests (for details about the hardware > > and software, see my mail "[BUG] 2.6.11: Random SCSI/USB errors when > > reading from USB memory stick" erlier

2.6.12-rc1-RT-V0.7.41-15: it_real_fn oops on boot in run_timer_softirq

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
Since 2.6.12-rc1-RT something I get this Oops on boot about 50% of the time. It's clearly some kind of race because if I just reboot again it works. Seems to happen shortly after ksoftirqd startup (maybe the first time we hit the timer softirq?). This is (lazily) hand copied and incomplete, but

Re: 2.6.11, USB: High latency?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 14:57 -0800, David Brownell wrote: > Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > I think this is connected to a problem people have been reporting on the > > Linux audio lists. With some USB chipsets, USB audio interfaces just > > don't work. There are dropouts even at very high

Re: 2.6.11, USB: High latency?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 17:13 -0800, David Brownell wrote: > On Wednesday 30 March 2005 4:43 pm, Lee Revell wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 14:57 -0800, David Brownell wrote: > > > Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > > I think this is connected to a prob

Re: 2.6.11, USB: High latency?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
[cc list restored] On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 14:57 -0800, David Brownell wrote: > Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > I think this is connected to a problem people have been reporting on the > > Linux audio lists. With some USB chipsets, USB audio interfaces just > > don't work. There are dropouts even at

Re: 2.6.11, USB: High latency?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 17:28 -0800, David Brownell wrote: > On Wednesday 30 March 2005 4:51 pm, Lee Revell wrote: > > [cc list restored] > > Thanks, I never had one to start with ... :) > > Thank you. Sorry for the tone of my reply... > > On Wed, 2005-03-30 at

Re: 2.6.11, USB: High latency?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 17:28 -0800, David Brownell wrote: > This is what Greg just posted (and Linus merged into BK, so it'll be > in BK snapshots starting tomorrow): > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-usb-devel=111221966815043=2 Wow, just checked my mail and there were at least 5

Re: 2.6.11, USB: High latency?

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 17:40 -0800, David Brownell wrote: > This all seems off-topic for latency though. :) > Disagree, in the bug reports I saw from JACK users the symptoms are exactly the same as a kernel latency problem. The only clear hint that it's something else is that the RT kernel and

Re: NFS client latencies

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 16:14 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote: > on den 30.03.2005 Klokka 11:56 (-0800) skreiv Andrew Morton: > > > That's normal and cannot be avoided: when writing, we have to look for > > > the existence of old nfs_page requests. The reason is that if one does > > > exist, we must

Re: NFS client latencies

2005-03-30 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 18:39 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yes. Together with the radix tree-based sorting of dirty requests, > > > that's pretty much what I've spent most of today doing. Lee, could you > >

Re: Poor SATA / RAID performance (2.6.11 and promise SATAII150 TX4)

2005-03-31 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 19:12 -0800, Tim Harvey wrote: > - the number of interrupts per second (1023) seems very high Why? You have 1000 timer interrupts every second, plus 23 from other sources. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a

Re: forkbombing Linux distributions

2005-03-31 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 12:00 +0200, Natanael Copa wrote: > On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 19:40 +0200, Jacek Łuczak wrote: > > > > I made some tests and almost all Linux distros brings down while freebsd > > survive!Forkbombing is a big problem but i don't think that something like > I really liked this

Re: off topic: GPL and binary modules

2005-03-31 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 13:39 -0500, Brian Gerst wrote: > Search the list archives, this has been flamed to death already. > Actually, don't search the list archives. Talk to a lawyer about it. Even if you get legal advice it's probably pointless to pass it on to the list because you will just

Re: NFS client latencies

2005-03-31 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 16:50 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Ingo Molnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So the overhead you are currently seeing should just be that of > > > iterating through the list, locking said requests and adding them to > > > our private list. > > > > ah - cool! This

Re: NFS client latencies

2005-04-01 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 06:30 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ah - cool! This was a 100 MB writeout so having 3.7 msecs to process > > > > 20K+ pages is not unreasonable. To break the latency, can i just do a >

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.43-00

2005-04-01 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 18:34 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > No one has commented about the loss of video in the tvtime/pcHDTV-3000 > card situation, am I on my own, basicly reverting to the > pcHDTV-2.0.tar.gz stuff to overwrite the kernel stuff? You didn't really give much of a clue as to where

RE: x86 TSC time warp puzzle

2005-04-02 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-04-01 at 23:05 -0800, Pallipadi, Venkatesh wrote: > It can be SMI happening in the platform. Typically BIOS uses some SMI > polling > to handle some devices during early boot. Though 500 microseconds sounds > a > bit too high. > Nope, that sounds just about right. Buggy BIOSes

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.43-00

2005-04-02 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 14:37 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > What the test program does, is spawn 5 processes, each with a different > priority. Starting with 10 and going to 14. All are SCHED_FIFO. Each of > these processes just do a scan of all directories starting with the root > directory '/'

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.43-00

2005-04-02 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 15:06 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 14:37 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > Here's the bug I get: > > > > FYI > > For kicks I ran this on 2.6.11-rc2-RT-V0.7.36-02 (I still had it as a > Grub option), and the system just locked up hard. I just was

Re: [patch] Real-Time Preemption, -RT-2.6.12-rc1-V0.7.43-00

2005-04-02 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 22:35 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > For kicks I ran this on 2.6.11-rc2-RT-V0.7.36-02 (I still had it as a > > Grub option), and the system just locked up hard. I just was curious > > if this was from a different change. But at least in the latest it > > shows output, and

ext3 allocate-with-reservation latencies

2005-04-04 Thread Lee Revell
I can trigger latencies up to ~1.1 ms with a CVS checkout. It looks like inside ext3_try_to_allocate_with_rsv, we spend a long time in this loop: ext3_test_allocatable (bitmap_search_next_usable_block) find_next_zero_bit (bitmap_search_next_usable_block) find_next_zero_bit

Re: ext3 allocate-with-reservation latencies

2005-04-05 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 23:10 -0700, Mingming Cao wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 06:13 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > * Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I can trigger latencies up to ~1.1 ms with a CVS checkout. It looks > > > like inside

Re: H6e F5g G1y & C6t H2e C2k

2005-04-06 Thread Lee Revell
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 10:27 -0500, Tommy Reynolds wrote: > Uttered Neal Gustafson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, spake thus: > > > Blond Amateur Coed Spring Break Bed Sex Hardcore > > Blonde In Stockings Posing beaumont > > Has this list not the simplest spam filter? It's difficult to see how any of >

Re: 2.6.11-rc3-mm2

2005-02-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2005-02-11 at 11:42 -0800, Matt Mackall wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 12:49:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: > > >RT-LSM introduces architectural problems in the form of bogus API. And > > > > that may be true of LSM, but not RT-LSM in particular. RT-LSM doesn't > > introduce *any* API

Re: [patch, 2.6.11-rc2] sched: RLIMIT_RT_CPU_RATIO feature

2005-02-11 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 22:41 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > It's clever that they do that, but additional control is needed in the > > future. jackd isn't the most sophisticate media app on this planet (not > > too much of an insult :)) [...] > > i think you are underestimating Jack - it is

Re: how to make a contribution

2005-02-12 Thread Lee Revell
On Sat, 2005-02-12 at 22:49 +0100, sylvanino b wrote: > I would like to share this tool if somebody is interested, but I dont > know how to proceed, I mean how to make a contribution an efficient > way. Any help/idea/information is welcome. > Put the patch on the web somewhere and post the URL

Oops with oprofile + RT preempt 2.6.11-rc2-RT-V0.7.37-01

2005-02-12 Thread Lee Revell
Are there any known incompatibilities with oprofile and the RT preempt patch? Lee Oops: [#1] PREEMPT Modules linked in: realtime commoncap af_packet via_rhine mii crc32 ehci_hcd usbhid uhci_hcd usbcore via_ agp agpgart evdev snd_rtctimer snd_emu10k1_synth snd_emu10k1 snd_ac97_codec

Re: Oops with oprofile + RT preempt 2.6.11-rc2-RT-V0.7.37-01

2005-02-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 14:30 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Philippe Elie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > oprofile_ops.cpu_type == NULL, this has been fixed 3 weeks ago, can > > you retry with -rc4 ? > > i've uploaded an -rc4 port of the -RT tree half an hour ago (-39-00). > OK, I will test

Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release

2005-02-13 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 17:16 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > All distros are trying to reduce boot time. They certainly aren't all trying very hard. Debian and Fedora (last time I checked) do not even run the init scripts in parallel. Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release

2005-02-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 09:51 +0100, Prakash Punnoor wrote: > Paolo Ciarrocchi schrieb: > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:06:51 -0500, Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 17:16 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > >> > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release

2005-02-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 15:16 -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > I don't see why so much effort goes into improving boot time on the > > kernel side when the most obvious user space problem is ignored. > > What user space problem is that? That init scripts with no interdependencies are run sequentially

[OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release)

2005-02-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 15:21 -0800, Roland Dreier wrote: > Lee> I don't see why so much effort goes into improving boot time > Lee> on the kernel side when the most obvious user space problem > Lee> is ignored. > > How much of a win is it to run init scripts in parallel? I seem to >

Re: [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release)

2005-02-14 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 16:16 -0800, Tim Bird wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > > But, I was referring more to things like GDM not being started until all > > the other init scripts are done. Why not start it first, and let the > > network initialize while the user is logging in? &g

Re: [OT] speeding boot process (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release)

2005-02-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 01:15 -0500, Jim Crilly wrote: > Another issue would be dual-booting, which a lot of people still do for some > strange reason. Um, to reverse engineer Windows drivers? Lee - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message

Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release

2005-02-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 00:43 +0100, Diego Calleja wrote: > There's stuff that it could be done in the kernel to help improving those > numbers, > IMHO. > > xp logs all the io done the first two minutes after booting. The next time it > boots > it tries to read all those files at once so the

Re: 2.6.9 IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! with VMWare 4

2005-02-15 Thread Lee Revell
On Tue, 2005-02-15 at 13:29 -0700, Joseph Cosby wrote: > Hi, > Using VMWare 4 with a 2.6.9 kernel I get "IO-APIC + timer doesn't work!" > As suggested, the noapic option fixes the problem. This resulted after > adding APIC support to my kernel. My problem is, I need APIC support to boot > on

Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 01:49 -0500, Sean wrote: > The affects of many top level folks using a non free system is felt all > the way down the food-chain. If the top tier would agree to use a free > SCM system then we could build bridges and offer the data in the preferred > format to _everyone_

Re: Netfilter: TARPIT Target

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 10:27 -0500, Fao, Sean wrote: > Where are those nonsense (base64) messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED] coming > from after I post? > Looks like a new spammer tactic. They have progressed from spoofing emails from real LKML posters to sending spam replies to actual threads.

Re: Oops with oprofile + RT preempt 2.6.11-rc2-RT-V0.7.37-01

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Sun, 2005-02-13 at 14:30 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote: > * Philippe Elie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > oprofile_ops.cpu_type == NULL, this has been fixed 3 weeks ago, can > > you retry with -rc4 ? > > i've uploaded an -rc4 port of the -RT tree half an hour ago (-39-00). > Thanks, -rc4 did

Re: E-cards for You

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 14:03 -0800, Chuck Harding wrote: > Why can't the list owners apply spamassassin to the list's *incoming* > mail stream so we don't ever see this stuff? Nearly every one of the > lists hosted on vger.kernel.org get spammed on a regular basis because > there is no spam

Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed

2005-02-17 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 18:32 -0500, Sean wrote: > On Thu, February 17, 2005 6:25 pm, Ed Tomlinson said: > > Linus has tried other SCMs. They did not suffice. I remember the preBK > > days, when you had to post a patch half a dozen time to get it merged. > > Patches were being missed left right

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