Re: Anyone else interested in a high-precision monotonic counter?

2001-01-11 Thread Manfred Bartz
"Christopher Friesen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Manfred Bartz wrote: Why a new system call? Well, you'd be accessing a different kernel variable--"ytime" instead of "xtime". This new variable wouldn't be adjusted when the system time/date was, it would sta

Re: can't build small enough zImage for floppy

2001-01-12 Thread Manfred Bartz
Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1st, the Sony Vaio Z505HS appears to be an example of a machine which will not boot a bzImage correctly, compaining about the compression format. Maybe you need to upgrade to a newer version of lilo? 2nd, trying to build kernel 2.4.0, I stripped out or

Re: Anyone else interested in a high-precision monotonic counter?

2001-01-04 Thread Manfred Bartz
"Christopher Friesen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone ever considered including a microsecond-precision monotonically-increasing counter in the kernel? This would allow for easy timing of alarms and such by using absolute values of when the alarm should expire rather than a list of

Real Time Traffic Flow Measurement - anybody working on it?

2001-04-18 Thread Manfred Bartz
://www.caida.org/ Relevant RFCs include: 2720 ... 2724 Thanks -- Manfred Bartz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FA

Re: [OT] Major Clock Drift

2001-02-03 Thread Manfred Bartz
Josh Myer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this _really_ isn't the forum for this, but a friend of mine has noticed major, persistent clock drift over time. After several weeks, the clock is several minutes slow (always slow). Any thoughts on the cause? (Google didn't show up anything

ethernet driver probs (tulip, de4x5, 3c509)

2001-02-19 Thread Manfred Bartz
I have 3 NICs (2*DEC, 1*3c509) in my gateway (P75, 40M RAM). tulip.o in 2.4.1 insists on selecting 10baseT, no command line option can convince it otherwise. tulip.o in 2.2.16 auto detected media and worked fine. de4x5.o in 2.4.1 needs to be told the media, then works fine. de4x5.o in 2.2.16

Re: ethernet driver probs (tulip, de4x5, 3c509)

2001-02-19 Thread Manfred Bartz
Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 20 Feb 2001, Manfred Bartz wrote: I have 3 NICs (2*DEC, 1*3c509) in my gateway (P75, 40M RAM). tulip.o in 2.4.1 insists on selecting 10baseT, no command line option can convince it otherwise. tulip.o in 2.2.16 auto detected media and worked

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-15 Thread Manfred Bartz
the difference. This works reliably across counter wrap-arounds. There is absolutely *no need for reset* ! -- Manfred Bartz --- ipchainsLogAnalyzer, NetCalc, whois at: http://logi.cc/linux/ NEW: http://logi.cc/linux

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-16 Thread Manfred Bartz
Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:07:31PM +1000, Manfred Bartz wrote: There is another issue with logging in general: *COUNTERS MUST NOT BE RESETABLE!!!* Umm, no. Counters can be resetable - you just specify that accounting programs

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-16 Thread Manfred Bartz
Leif Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manfred Bartz responded to Russell King [EMAIL PROTECTED] who writes: On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:07:31PM +1000, Manfred Bartz wrote: There is another issue with logging in general: *COUNTERS MUST NOT BE RESETABLE

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-16 Thread Manfred Bartz
Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:07:31PM +1000, Manfred Bartz wrote: Resetable counters guarantee that no two programs can co-exists if they happen to reset the same counters. That sounds like crap (sorry). Care to explain how two independent apps can

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Manfred Bartz
applications so they cooperate nicely. They're still all met, right? No. Because they require well behaved, cooperative user programs. And we haven't had to fill the kernel with more cruft. Nonsense. Removing counter reset capabilities reduces kernel cruft. -- Manfred Bartz

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Manfred Bartz
() by another, unrelated application closed all open descriptors for that file, including the one you just opened? Just fix your applications? -- Manfred Bartz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majo

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Manfred Bartz
are trying to dictate policy. What then *is* the policy? AFAIK, no counters in the Linux kernel have resets, except in netfilter. -- Manfred Bartz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo inf

Re: Anyone else interested in a high-precision monotonic counter?

2001-01-11 Thread Manfred Bartz
"Christopher Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Manfred Bartz wrote: > > > Why a new system call? > Well, you'd be accessing a different kernel variable--"ytime" instead of > "xtime". This new variable wouldn't be adjusted when the sys

Re: can't build small enough zImage for floppy

2001-01-12 Thread Manfred Bartz
Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1st, the Sony Vaio Z505HS appears to be an example of a machine which > will not boot a bzImage correctly, compaining about the compression > format. Maybe you need to upgrade to a newer version of lilo? > 2nd, trying to build kernel 2.4.0, I stripped out

Real Time Traffic Flow Measurement - anybody working on it?

2001-04-18 Thread Manfred Bartz
<http://www.caida.org/> Relevant RFCs include: 2720 ... 2724 Thanks -- Manfred Bartz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Re: Anyone else interested in a high-precision monotonic counter?

2001-01-04 Thread Manfred Bartz
"Christopher Friesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone ever considered including a microsecond-precision > monotonically-increasing counter in the kernel? This would allow for > easy timing of alarms and such by using absolute values of when the > alarm should expire rather than a list

Re: [OT] Major Clock Drift

2001-02-03 Thread Manfred Bartz
Josh Myer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know this _really_ isn't the forum for this, but a friend of mine has > noticed major, persistent clock drift over time. After several weeks, the > clock is several minutes slow (always slow). Any thoughts on the > cause? (Google didn't show up anything

ethernet driver probs (tulip, de4x5, 3c509)

2001-02-19 Thread Manfred Bartz
I have 3 NICs (2*DEC, 1*3c509) in my gateway (P75, 40M RAM). tulip.o in 2.4.1 insists on selecting 10baseT, no command line option can convince it otherwise. tulip.o in 2.2.16 auto detected media and worked fine. de4x5.o in 2.4.1 needs to be told the media, then works fine. de4x5.o in 2.2.16

Re: ethernet driver probs (tulip, de4x5, 3c509)

2001-02-19 Thread Manfred Bartz
Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 20 Feb 2001, Manfred Bartz wrote: > > I have 3 NICs (2*DEC, 1*3c509) in my gateway (P75, 40M RAM). > > > > tulip.o in 2.4.1 insists on selecting 10baseT, no command > > line option can convince it otherwise. tulip.o

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-15 Thread Manfred Bartz
then simply subtract a previous value from the current value to get the difference. This works reliably across counter wrap-arounds. There is absolutely *no need for reset* ! -- Manfred Bartz --- ipchainsLogAnalyzer, NetCalc, whois at: &

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-16 Thread Manfred Bartz
Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:07:31PM +1000, Manfred Bartz wrote: > > There is another issue with logging in general: > > > > *COUNTERS MUST NOT BE RESETABLE!!!* > > Umm, no. Counters can be resetable -

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-16 Thread Manfred Bartz
Leif Sawyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Manfred Bartz responded to > > Russell King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who writes: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:07:31PM +1000, Manfred Bartz wrote: > > > > There is another issue with logging in general:

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-16 Thread Manfred Bartz
Harald Welte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 12:07:31PM +1000, Manfred Bartz wrote: > > Resetable counters guarantee that no two programs can co-exists if > > they happen to reset the same counters. > > That sounds like crap (sorry). Care to

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Manfred Bartz
ft. Nonsense. Removing counter reset capabilities reduces kernel cruft. -- Manfred Bartz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Manfred Bartz
You are confused. What would you say if a close() by another, unrelated application closed all open descriptors for that file, including the one you just opened? Just fix your applications? -- Manfred Bartz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" i

Re: IP Acounting Idea for 2.5

2001-04-17 Thread Manfred Bartz
say if a close() by another, > > No he isnt confused, you are trying to dictate policy. What then *is* the policy? AFAIK, no counters in the Linux kernel have resets, except in netfilter. -- Manfred Bartz - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in t