Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER? I need help.

2007-04-05 Thread johnrobertbanks
Hi Ignatich, After seeing the following benchmarks at http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm The Reiser4 benchmarks are so good, I have decided to try the Reiser4 filesystem. .-. |

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER? I need help.

2007-04-05 Thread johnrobertbanks
Yeap, I guess that will probably work. And here I was trying to compile old versions of GRUB from namesys.com. By the way, do you think the benchmarks from: http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm are accurate?

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-05 Thread johnrobertbanks
Hi Peter, You say that the results may be accurate, but not relevant. .-. | FILESYSTEM | TIME |DISK | | TYPE |(secs)|USAGE| .-. |REISER4 lzo | 1938 | 278 | |REISER4 gzip| 2295 | 213 | |REISER4 | 3462 | 692 | |EXT2| 4092 | 816 |

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-05 Thread johnrobertbanks
Hi Peter, You say that the results may be accurate, but Whether or not they're *relevant* is a totally different ball of wax. and Whether or not they're relevant depends on how well they happen to reflect your particular usage pattern. Well, surprise, surprise,.. everyone knows that. Have a

Re: COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL.

2007-04-06 Thread johnrobertbanks
This is a reply to an email that I accidentally deleted. COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL. Download a recent kernel from http://www.kernel.org/ I will use the kernel linux-2.6.20.tar.bz2 You will have to change details of the following to suit your purposes. Save it in /usr/src/ # mv

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-06 Thread johnrobertbanks
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 11:21:19 -0400, Jan Harkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Do you really have to repeat the results in every email you sent? The following benchmarks are from http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm or, http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-06 Thread johnrobertbanks
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:30:49 -0400, Jan Harkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Since you decide to publically respond to a private email, but not only you did not 'discuss' anything I wrote and in fact cut out most of the useful information in my reply I guess I will have to repeat my observations.

Re: COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Just correcting some errors and typos. Wouldn't want you to say that the linux kernel mailing list gave you incorrect info. COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL. Download a recent kernel from http://www.kernel.org/ I will use the kernel linux-2.6.20.tar.bz2 You will have to change details

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Hi Willy,... With decent CPU, you can reach higher read/write data rates than what a single off-the-shelf disk can achieve. For this reason, I think that reiser4 would be worth trying for this particular usage. Glad to see you are willing to give Reiser4 a go. Good man.

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Krzysztof -- Aren't you missing the point? Twice the speed would be great,... even a 50% increase,... even a 0% increase. I checked what bonnie++ actually writes to its test files, for you. It is about 98-99% zeros. Still, the results record sequential reads, of 232,729 K/sec, nearly four times

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 13:59:14 +0100, Dale Amon [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jan does have a point about bad blocks. A couple years ago I had a relatively new disk start to go bad on random blocks. I detected it fairly quickly but did have some data loss. All the compressed archives which were hit

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Lennart. Tell me again that these results from http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm are not of interest to you. I still don't understand why you have your head in the sand. .-. |

Re: COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
It is quite possible to build a kernel that has all the drivers built-in, but still require an initrd file. For instance, if you have a recent RedHat or Fedora system, '/' may very well be on an LVM partition, which means you need an initrd to do a 'lvm varyonvg' before mounting your real

Re: COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
It is *highly* recommended that you change the kernel identifier at least slightly, so that you can install '2.6.20-1.local' without overlaying the vendor-supplied 2.6.20-1 kernel. Among other things, this lets you boot back to the equivalent code level in the vendor kernel, so you can

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Teddy, It is a pity you don't address the full set of results, when you make your snide comments. Now since you have them,... why don't you make reasoned comment about them. You can read more here: http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
Jose, since you clearly have nothing useful to say. Why don't you let Teddy talk for himself. On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:48:11 +0100, Jose Celestino [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Words by [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 09:13:32PM -0700]: Teddy, It is a pity you don't address the full

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
Christer Weinigel: Until YOU, have actually used the REISER4 filesystem yourself, I think YOU OWE IT to the people on the linux-kernel mailing list, to, AS YOU SAY, shut the fuck up. Even reading up on the REISER4 filesystem would help. Applying a little intelligence would undoubtedly help

REISER4 FOR INCLUSION IN THE LINUX KERNEL.

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
REISER4 FOR INCLUSION IN THE LINUX KERNEL. Dave Lynch takes a reasoned approach to REISER4. Dave Lynch wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: If the compelling reason is that it needs a test, I'd say its not ready. Can you please elaborate ? I am not sure I understand what you are arguing ?

Re: REISER4 FOR INCLUSION IN THE LINUX KERNEL.

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
YOU GUYS WILL LAUGH ABOUT THIS: I forgot the all the statistics that might support the sase for REISER4 inclusion. Well, here it all is: http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm .-. |

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:58:53 +0200, Richard Knutsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wow, I'm impressed. Think you got the record on how many mails you referenced to in a reply... TWO actually. I guess you are easily impressed. A simple cut and paste error. You have got some rude answers and you

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER? I need help.

2007-04-05 Thread johnrobertbanks
Hi Ignatich, After seeing the following benchmarks at http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm The Reiser4 benchmarks are so good, I have decided to try the Reiser4 filesystem. .-. |

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER? I need help.

2007-04-05 Thread johnrobertbanks
Yeap, I guess that will probably work. And here I was trying to compile old versions of GRUB from namesys.com. By the way, do you think the benchmarks from: http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm are accurate?

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-05 Thread johnrobertbanks
Hi Peter, You say that the results may be accurate, but not relevant. .-. | FILESYSTEM | TIME |DISK | | TYPE |(secs)|USAGE| .-. |REISER4 lzo | 1938 | 278 | |REISER4 gzip| 2295 | 213 | |REISER4 | 3462 | 692 | |EXT2| 4092 | 816 |

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-05 Thread johnrobertbanks
Hi Peter, You say that the results may be accurate, but "Whether or not they're *relevant* is a totally different ball of wax." and "Whether or not they're relevant depends on how well they happen to reflect your particular usage pattern." Well, surprise, surprise,.. everyone knows that. Have

Re: COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL.

2007-04-06 Thread johnrobertbanks
This is a reply to an email that I accidentally deleted. COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL. Download a recent kernel from http://www.kernel.org/ I will use the kernel linux-2.6.20.tar.bz2 You will have to change details of the following to suit your purposes. Save it in /usr/src/ # mv

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-06 Thread johnrobertbanks
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 11:21:19 -0400, "Jan Harkes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Do you really have to repeat the results in every email you sent? The following benchmarks are from http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm or, http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-06 Thread johnrobertbanks
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:30:49 -0400, "Jan Harkes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Since you decide to publically respond to a private email, but not only > you did not 'discuss' anything I wrote and in fact cut out most of the > useful information in my reply I guess I will have to repeat my >

Re: COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Just correcting some errors and typos. Wouldn't want you to say that the linux kernel mailing list gave you incorrect info. COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL. Download a recent kernel from http://www.kernel.org/ I will use the kernel linux-2.6.20.tar.bz2 You will have to change details

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Hi Willy,... > With decent CPU, you can reach higher read/write data rates than what a > single off-the-shelf disk can achieve. For this reason, I think that > reiser4 would be worth trying for this particular usage. Glad to see you are willing to give Reiser4 a go. Good man.

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Krzysztof -- Aren't you missing the point? Twice the speed would be great,... even a 50% increase,... even a 0% increase. I checked what bonnie++ actually writes to its test files, for you. It is about 98-99% zeros. Still, the results record sequential reads, of 232,729 K/sec, nearly four times

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 13:59:14 +0100, "Dale Amon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Jan does have a point about bad blocks. A couple years ago > I had a relatively new disk start to go bad on random blocks. > I detected it fairly quickly but did have some data loss. > > All the compressed archives which

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Lennart. Tell me again that these results from http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm are not of interest to you. I still don't understand why you have your head in the sand. .-. |

Re: COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
> It is quite possible to build a kernel that has all the drivers built-in, > but still require an initrd file. For instance, if you have a recent > RedHat or Fedora system, '/' may very well be on an LVM partition, which > means you need an initrd to do a 'lvm varyonvg' before mounting your

Re: COMPILING AND CONFIGURING A NEW KERNEL.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
> It is *highly* recommended that you change the kernel identifier at > least slightly, so that you can install '2.6.20-1.local' without > overlaying > the vendor-supplied 2.6.20-1 kernel. Among other things, this lets you > boot back to the equivalent code level in the vendor kernel, > so you

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-07 Thread johnrobertbanks
Teddy, It is a pity you don't address the full set of results, when you make your snide comments. Now since you have them,... why don't you make reasoned comment about them. You can read more here: http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER.

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
Jose, since you clearly have nothing useful to say. Why don't you let Teddy talk for himself. On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 13:48:11 +0100, "Jose Celestino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Words by [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 09:13:32PM > -0700]: > > Teddy, > > > > It is a pity you don't

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
Christer Weinigel: Until YOU, have actually used the REISER4 filesystem yourself, I think YOU OWE IT to the people on the linux-kernel mailing list, to, AS YOU SAY, shut the fuck up. Even reading up on the REISER4 filesystem would help. Applying a little intelligence would undoubtedly help

REISER4 FOR INCLUSION IN THE LINUX KERNEL.

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
REISER4 FOR INCLUSION IN THE LINUX KERNEL. Dave Lynch takes a reasoned approach to REISER4. Dave Lynch wrote: > > Jeff Garzik wrote: > > > > If the compelling reason is that it needs a test, I'd say its not ready. > > > > Can you please elaborate ? I am not sure I understand what you are >

Re: REISER4 FOR INCLUSION IN THE LINUX KERNEL.

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
YOU GUYS WILL LAUGH ABOUT THIS: I forgot the all the statistics that might support the sase for REISER4 inclusion. Well, here it all is: http://linuxhelp.150m.com/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm and http://m.domaindlx.com/LinuxHelp/resources/fs-benchmarks.htm .-. |

Re: Reiser4. BEST FILESYSTEM EVER - Christer Weinigel

2007-04-08 Thread johnrobertbanks
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 00:58:53 +0200, "Richard Knutsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Wow, I'm impressed. Think you got the record on how many mails you > referenced to in a reply... TWO actually. I guess you are easily impressed. A simple cut and paste error. > You have got some rude answers