Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)

2007-09-16 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 16/09/2007, Marc Espie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:17:41AM -0400, Eben Moglen wrote: > > We will make no more public statements until the work is complete, and > > we will be neither hurried nor intimidated by people who shout at us > > instead of helping. > >

Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)

2007-09-16 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 16/09/2007, Marc Espie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 09:17:41AM -0400, Eben Moglen wrote: We will make no more public statements until the work is complete, and we will be neither hurried nor intimidated by people who shout at us instead of helping.

Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:55:37 +0200, Adrian Bunk said: > > > Jiri's patch would have wrongly not only removed the BSD statement from > > dual licenced files but also from not dual licenced files. > > > > This was a mistake in this patch

Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When companies have taken our wireless device drivers, many many of > them have given changes and fixes back. Some maybe didn't, but that > is OK. > > When Linux took our changes back, they immediately locked the door > against changes

Re: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jason Dixon wrote: > > Once the grantor (Reyk) releases his code under that license, it must > > remain. You are free to derive work and redistribute under your > > license, but the original copyright and license permission remains > > intact.

Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 07:29:39PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 05:27:03PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: &g

Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Luis R. Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I urge developers to not bait into this and just leave this alone. > Those involved know what they are doing and have a strong team of > attorneys watching their backs. Any *necessary* discussions are be > done privately. Err... I don't

Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 05:27:03PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:37:18PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: &g

Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:54:57PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:37:18PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > > On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > &

Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:37:18PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > > > This will hopefully

Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Constantine A. Murenin wrote: > > This will hopefully help diminish certain myths about the code licensing. > > What myth? The myth that Theo understands dual licensing? Reyk's code was never dual licensed, so it's not

Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
This will hopefully help diminish certain myths about the code licensing. C. -- Forwarded message -- From: Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 31-Aug-2007 21:40 Subject: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [bcc'd to Eben Moglen so that people

Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
This will hopefully help diminish certain myths about the code licensing. C. -- Forwarded message -- From: Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 31-Aug-2007 21:40 Subject: That whole Linux stealing our code thing To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [bcc'd to Eben Moglen so that people don't

Re: Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Constantine A. Murenin wrote: This will hopefully help diminish certain myths about the code licensing. What myth? The myth that Theo understands dual licensing? Reyk's code was never dual licensed, so it's not like it even matters

Re: Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:37:18PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Constantine A. Murenin wrote: This will hopefully help diminish certain myths about the code licensing

Re: Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 10:54:57PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:37:18PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Constantine A. Murenin wrote: This will hopefully

Re: Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 05:27:03PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 01:37:18PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Luis R. Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I urge developers to not bait into this and just leave this alone. Those involved know what they are doing and have a strong team of attorneys watching their backs. Any *necessary* discussions are be done privately. Err... I don't

Re: Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 07:29:39PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 05:27:03PM -0400, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 01/09/07, Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Dixon wrote: Once the grantor (Reyk) releases his code under that license, it must remain. You are free to derive work and redistribute under your license, but the original copyright and license permission remains intact. Many

Re: Fwd: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When companies have taken our wireless device drivers, many many of them have given changes and fixes back. Some maybe didn't, but that is OK. When Linux took our changes back, they immediately locked the door against changes moving back,

Re: That whole Linux stealing our code thing

2007-09-01 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 01/09/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:55:37 +0200, Adrian Bunk said: Jiri's patch would have wrongly not only removed the BSD statement from dual licenced files but also from not dual licenced files. This was a mistake in this patch (that was