Re: Re: more git updates..

2005-04-12 Thread David Eger
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 02:21:58PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Yes. A tree is defined by the blobs it references (and the subtrees) but 
> it doesn't _contain_ them. It just contains a pointer to them.

A pointer to them?  You mean a SHA1 hash of them? or what?
Where is the *real* data stored?  The real files, the real patches?
Are these somewhere completely outside of git?

> > Therefore, "TREE" must be the *full* data, and since we have the following
> > definition for CHANGESET:
> 
> No. A tree is not the full data. A tree contains enough information to 
> _recreate_ the full data, but the tree itself just tells you _how_ to do 
> that. It doesn't contain very much of the data itself at all.

Perhaps I'd understand this if you tell me what "recreate" means.
If a have a SHA1 hash of a file, and I have the file, I can verify that said
file has the SHA1 hash it's supposed to have, but I can't generate the file
from it's hash...

Sorry for being stubbornly dumb, but you'll have a couple of us puzzling 
at the README ;-)

-dte
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Re: Re: more git updates..

2005-04-12 Thread David Eger

The reason I am questioning this point is the GIT README file.

Linus makes explicit that a "blob" is just the "file contents," and that
really, a "blob" is not just the SHA1 of the "blob":

> In particular, the "current directory cache" certainly does not need to
> be consistent with the current directory contents, but it has two very
> important attributes:
> 
> (a) it can re-generate the full state it caches (not just the directory
> structure: through the "blob" object it can regenerate the data too)

And he defines "TREE" with the same name: blob

> TREE: The next hierarchical object type is the "tree" object.  A tree
> object is a list of permission/name/blob data, sorted by name.

Therefore, "TREE" must be the *full* data, and since we have the following
definition for CHANGESET:

> A "changeset" is defined by the tree-object that it results in, the
> parent changesets (zero, one or more) that led up to that point, and a
> comment on what happened.

That each changeset remembers *everything* for *each point in the tree*.

Linus, if you actually mean to differentiate between the full data
and a SHA1 of the data, *please please please* say "blob" in one place
and "SHA1 of the blob" elsewhere.  It's quite confusing, to me at least.

Also, the details of just what data constitutes a 'changeset' would be
lovely... i.e. a precise spec of what Pat is describing below...

-dte 

> where David Eger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> told me that...
> > So with git, *every* changeset is an entire (compressed) copy of the
> > kernel.  Really?  Every patch you accept adds 37 MB to your hard disk?
> > 
> > Am I missing something here?
> 
> Yes. Only changes files re-appear. The unchanged files keep the same
> SHA1 hash, therefore they don't re-appear in the repository.
> 
> So, if Linus gets a patch which sanitizes drivers/char/selection.c,
> only these new objects appear in the repository:
> 
>   drivers/char/selection.c
>   drivers/char
>   drivers
>   . (project root)
>   commit message
> 
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Re: more git updates..

2005-04-11 Thread David Eger
So with git, *every* changeset is an entire (compressed) copy of the
kernel.  Really?  Every patch you accept adds 37 MB to your hard disk?

Am I missing something here?

-dte
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Re: gcc randomly crashes on my PowerBook with recent kernels...

2005-01-23 Thread David Eger
On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 01:34:42AM +0100, René Rebe wrote:
> On 16. Jan 2005, at 1:07 Uhr, David Eger wrote:
>
> >>BenH mentioned PREEMPTION and ReiserFS (I use) might not
> >>play that well - at least not on PowerPC.
> >
> >Interesting.  I do have Pre-emption on (and I have Reiser compiled,
> >but not in use).  Sounds like time to kill it.
> 
> Could you reply if you have some recompiled kernel results?

Recompiling my kernel without PREEMPT seems to have fixed my problem...
I haven't had a gcc crash badly since...

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signal handlers not linked properly in do_fork()?

2000-10-28 Thread David Eger


I've been looking at the code for do_fork() / copy_sighand() and am
mystified by the following.  It seems that copy_sighand() only sets the
new task's sig member if it is not CLONEd from the parent.  

If the signal_struct is CLONEd from the parent, it increments the parent's
signal_struct's reference count, but does not set the new task's sig
member.  I see nowhere else in do_fork() where sig is set, either.  
What gives?

-David Eger

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