Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-19 Thread Georg Nikodym
>>>>> "GN" == Georg Nikodym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>>> "MC" == Mike Castle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MC> What about the "UNIX is starting to smell bad" comment? :-> GN> I believe that it comes

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-19 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "MC" == Mike Castle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MC> What about the "UNIX is starting to smell bad" comment? :-> I believe that it comes from a paper that Pike presented at a OSDI (or the Usenix general) last year on the theme of OS Research being dead. Links to it were also posted on /.

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-19 Thread Georg Nikodym
MC == Mike Castle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MC What about the UNIX is starting to smell bad comment? :- I believe that it comes from a paper that Pike presented at a OSDI (or the Usenix general) last year on the theme of OS Research being dead. Links to it were also posted on /. around that

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-19 Thread Georg Nikodym
GN == Georg Nikodym [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MC == Mike Castle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MC What about the UNIX is starting to smell bad comment? :- GN I believe that it comes from a paper that Pike presented at a GN OSDI (or the Usenix general) last year on the theme of OS GN Research

2.4.5-ac13, APM, and Dell Inspiron 8000

2001-06-13 Thread Georg Nikodym
I've been running 2.4.5 on my new Dell I8000 without too many problems. Last night I built -ac13 (on my porch) and booted it without incident. Later, going inside and re-connecting the AC I notice that the thing's hung. I play around a bit and discover that the act of plugging or unplugging

2.4.5-ac13, APM, and Dell Inspiron 8000

2001-06-13 Thread Georg Nikodym
I've been running 2.4.5 on my new Dell I8000 without too many problems. Last night I built -ac13 (on my porch) and booted it without incident. Later, going inside and re-connecting the AC I notice that the thing's hung. I play around a bit and discover that the act of plugging or unplugging

Minor addition to pci.ids

2001-04-10 Thread Georg Nikodym
For a cPCI card I'm working with... Cheers. --- 1.23.1.1/drivers/pci/pci.idsSun Mar 25 13:14:20 2001 +++ 1.25/drivers/pci/pci.idsMon Apr 9 11:46:36 2001 @@ -920,6 +920,7 @@ ac51 PCI1420 ac52 PCI1451 PC card Cardbus Controller ac53 PCI1421 PC card

Minor addition to pci.ids

2001-04-10 Thread Georg Nikodym
For a cPCI card I'm working with... Cheers. --- 1.23.1.1/drivers/pci/pci.idsSun Mar 25 13:14:20 2001 +++ 1.25/drivers/pci/pci.idsMon Apr 9 11:46:36 2001 @@ -920,6 +920,7 @@ ac51 PCI1420 ac52 PCI1451 PC card Cardbus Controller ac53 PCI1421 PC card

Re: Modules and DevFS

2001-02-02 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "MBT" == Michael B Trausch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MBT> Is this fixable the "right" way? On my box, which started its life as a RH7, I've been editing /etc/security/console.perms as I've discovered problems. I don't know if this is the right way but thus far I've: - changed the

Re: problem with devfsd compilation

2001-02-02 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "M" == Meunier writes: M> Not true. I'm pretty sure /dev/.devfsd is only created when you M> mount devfs at boot time or via mount -t devfs devfs /dev in your M> system initialization script. Creating /dev/.devfsd with touch M> defeats the purpose of /etc/rc.sysinit example. Right

Re: problem with devfsd compilation

2001-02-02 Thread Georg Nikodym
"M" == Meunier iso-8859-1 writes: M Not true. I'm pretty sure /dev/.devfsd is only created when you M mount devfs at boot time or via mount -t devfs devfs /dev in your M system initialization script. Creating /dev/.devfsd with touch M defeats the purpose of /etc/rc.sysinit example. Right

Re: Modules and DevFS

2001-02-02 Thread Georg Nikodym
"MBT" == Michael B Trausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MBT Is this fixable the "right" way? On my box, which started its life as a RH7, I've been editing /etc/security/console.perms as I've discovered problems. I don't know if this is the right way but thus far I've: - changed the console

Re: problem with devfsd compilation

2001-02-01 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "hm" == hiren mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: hm> Hi, I am trying to compile devfsd on my system running RedHat hm> linux 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16-22). I get the error "RTLD_NEXT" hm> undefined. I am not sure where this symbol is defined. Is there hm> anything that I am missing on my

Re: problem with devfsd compilation

2001-02-01 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "hm" == hiren mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: hm> Hi, I am trying to compile devfsd on my system running RedHat hm> linux 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16-22). I get the error "RTLD_NEXT" hm> undefined. I am not sure where this symbol is defined. Is there hm> anything that I am missing on my

Re: Modules and DevFS

2001-02-01 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "JJ" == John Jasen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JJ> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, William Knop wrote: >> >One thing that I've noticed with devfs is that all the old-style >> >names are symlinks. >> >> Hmm... I have no symlinks until the module loads. Therefore X sees >> no /dev/input/mouse,

Re: Modules and DevFS

2001-02-01 Thread Georg Nikodym
"JJ" == John Jasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JJ On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, William Knop wrote: One thing that I've noticed with devfs is that all the old-style names are symlinks. Hmm... I have no symlinks until the module loads. Therefore X sees no /dev/input/mouse, doesn't ask the kernel

Re: problem with devfsd compilation

2001-02-01 Thread Georg Nikodym
"hm" == hiren mehta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hm Hi, I am trying to compile devfsd on my system running RedHat hm linux 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16-22). I get the error "RTLD_NEXT" hm undefined. I am not sure where this symbol is defined. Is there hm anything that I am missing on my system. make

Re: problem with devfsd compilation

2001-02-01 Thread Georg Nikodym
"hm" == hiren mehta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hm Hi, I am trying to compile devfsd on my system running RedHat hm linux 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16-22). I get the error "RTLD_NEXT" hm undefined. I am not sure where this symbol is defined. Is there hm anything that I am missing on my system. Oh

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "MBT" == Michael B Trausch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MBT> I've been using this driver and this hardware since I started MBT> running Kernel 2.2.16. It _works_, however, whenever I have a MBT> program that I compile that's especially large (the kernel, MBT> glibc, etc.), or copy/move

Re: Possible Bug: drivers/sound/maestro.c

2001-01-26 Thread Georg Nikodym
"MBT" == Michael B Trausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MBT I've been using this driver and this hardware since I started MBT running Kernel 2.2.16. It _works_, however, whenever I have a MBT program that I compile that's especially large (the kernel, MBT glibc, etc.), or copy/move lots of

Driver migration question

2001-01-24 Thread Georg Nikodym
So, rather than repeated ask questions of the form: How do I change X (a 2.2 thingy in my driver) to the blessed form on 2.4.x? I'm wondering if there's a driver in the kernel tree that somebody can point to and say, "This is how drivers should be done." In particular, I'm

Driver migration question

2001-01-24 Thread Georg Nikodym
So, rather than repeated ask questions of the form: How do I change X (a 2.2 thingy in my driver) to the blessed form on 2.4.x? I'm wondering if there's a driver in the kernel tree that somebody can point to and say, "This is how drivers should be done." In particular, I'm

Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-23 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "CF" == Christopher Friesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CF> This is why the autocompletion of functions and struct members in CF> VC++ is awfully nice...hit the first few unique letters and it CF> will complete the rest of the function for you, then hit tab and CF> keep going. Is

Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-23 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "MH" == Mike Harrold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MH> For exactly the reverse of that reason. Typing capital letters is MH> a heck of a lot more difficult that addint an underscore. MH> Then there is reasability. MH> void ThisIsMyDumbassFunctionName MH> if MUCH more difficult to

Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-23 Thread Georg Nikodym
"MH" == Mike Harrold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MH For exactly the reverse of that reason. Typing capital letters is MH a heck of a lot more difficult that addint an underscore. MH Then there is reasability. MH void ThisIsMyDumbassFunctionName MH if MUCH more difficult to read than MH

Re: [OT?] Coding Style

2001-01-23 Thread Georg Nikodym
"CF" == Christopher Friesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CF This is why the autocompletion of functions and struct members in CF VC++ is awfully nice...hit the first few unique letters and it CF will complete the rest of the function for you, then hit tab and CF keep going. Is there anything

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-11 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "KO" == Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KO> Looks good, except that you need to keep the option flags for KO> backwards compatibility. There are a *lot* of scripts out there KO> which invoke klogd with various options and they will fail with KO> this change. It is OK to issue

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-11 Thread Georg Nikodym
>>>>> "GN" == Georg Nikodym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: GN> Here's a patch (against sysklogd-1.3-31) that completely tear out GN> the symbol processing code. Doh! Forgot a chunk (to be applied after the others): diff -Nru a/src/sysklogd-1.3-31/Ma

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-11 Thread Georg Nikodym
in Schulze: Updates .\" Sun Nov 19 23:22:21 MET: Martin Schulze: Updates .\" Mon Aug 19 09:42:08 CDT 1996: Dr. G.W. Wettstein: Updates +.\" Mon Dec 11 2000: Georg Nikodym: Removal of documentation related to +.\" symbol resolution (the code has been removed). .\&q

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-11 Thread Georg Nikodym
1996: Dr. G.W. Wettstein: Updates +.\" Mon Dec 11 2000: Georg Nikodym: Removal of documentation related to +.\" symbol resolution (the code has been removed). .\" .TH KLOGD 8 "24 November 1995" "Version 1.3" "Linux System Administration&quo

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-11 Thread Georg Nikodym
"GN" == Georg Nikodym [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GN Here's a patch (against sysklogd-1.3-31) that completely tear out GN the symbol processing code. Doh! Forgot a chunk (to be applied after the others): diff -Nru a/src/sysklogd-1.3-31/Makefile b/src/sysklogd-1.3-31/Makefile

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-11 Thread Georg Nikodym
"KO" == Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KO Looks good, except that you need to keep the option flags for KO backwards compatibility. There are a *lot* of scripts out there KO which invoke klogd with various options and they will fail with KO this change. It is OK to issue a warning

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-08 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "KO" == Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KO> You only removed the module symbol handling. The problem is that KO> the entire klogd oops handling is out of date and broken. I KO> recommend removing all oops processing from klogd, which means KO> that klogd does not need any

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-08 Thread Georg Nikodym
"KO" == Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KO You only removed the module symbol handling. The problem is that KO the entire klogd oops handling is out of date and broken. I KO recommend removing all oops processing from klogd, which means KO that klogd does not need any symbols nor

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-07 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "KO" == Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KO> I would prefer to see the oops decoding completely removed from KO> klogd. The only justification for klogd converting the oops is KO> to save users from running ksymoops by hand. I would not mind KO> klogd capturing the oops text,

Re: linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-07 Thread Georg Nikodym
"KO" == Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KO I would prefer to see the oops decoding completely removed from KO klogd. The only justification for klogd converting the oops is KO to save users from running ksymoops by hand. I would not mind KO klogd capturing the oops text, forking to

linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-06 Thread Georg Nikodym
sysklogd 1.3-31 no longer compiles using the latest headers in test11. Strictly speaking this isn't a kernel bug... sysklogd's ksym_mod.c includes In test11, added struct inter_module_entry. Its first member is "struct list_head list;". This necessitates the inclusion of . The trouble is

linux-2.4.0-test11 and sysklogd-1.3-31

2000-12-06 Thread Georg Nikodym
sysklogd 1.3-31 no longer compiles using the latest headers in test11. Strictly speaking this isn't a kernel bug... sysklogd's ksym_mod.c includes linux/module.h In test11, linux/module.h added struct inter_module_entry. Its first member is "struct list_head list;". This necessitates the

aironet4500_cs

2000-11-27 Thread Georg Nikodym
Am I foolish to expect the aironet4500_cs (and friends) to work with my shiny new Cisco Aironet 340 pcmcia card? If not, anybody got any helpful hints on how to get things off the ground? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

aironet4500_cs

2000-11-27 Thread Georg Nikodym
Am I foolish to expect the aironet4500_cs (and friends) to work with my shiny new Cisco Aironet 340 pcmcia card? If not, anybody got any helpful hints on how to get things off the ground? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to

Re: [PATCH] removal of "static foo = 0"

2000-11-25 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "AB" == Andries Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AB> No insult intended. It is just that if there is an abyss AB> somewhere, I like to stay at least a meter away from it. Someone AB> else may think that one inch suffices. I see you propose a lot AB> of changes that yield a

Re: [PATCH] removal of static foo = 0

2000-11-25 Thread Georg Nikodym
"AB" == Andries Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AB No insult intended. It is just that if there is an abyss AB somewhere, I like to stay at least a meter away from it. Someone AB else may think that one inch suffices. I see you propose a lot AB of changes that yield a negligable

[PATCH] maestro 2E not enabled

2000-11-20 Thread Georg Nikodym
Second try (probably since I didn't correctly follow all the rules before, thanks for the timely discussion). The Maestro 2E on my laptop, which worked on 2.2 kernels, stopped working on 2.4.0. Where stopped working means no sound and "pauses" when interacting with the driver. The symptom was

[PATCH] maestro 2E not enabled

2000-11-20 Thread Georg Nikodym
Second try (probably since I didn't correctly follow all the rules before, thanks for the timely discussion). The Maestro 2E on my laptop, which worked on 2.2 kernels, stopped working on 2.4.0. Where stopped working means no sound and "pauses" when interacting with the driver. The symptom was

patch for maestro 2e

2000-11-14 Thread Georg Nikodym
I found that the maestro 2E sound hardware didn't want to make noise for me under 2.4. Today I got itchy and scratched. Here's a patch: (keller) 1021$ bk diffs -u drivers/sound/maestro.c = drivers/sound/maestro.c 1.11 vs edited = --- 1.11/drivers/sound/maestro.cTue Aug 29

patch for maestro 2e

2000-11-14 Thread Georg Nikodym
I found that the maestro 2E sound hardware didn't want to make noise for me under 2.4. Today I got itchy and scratched. Here's a patch: (keller) 1021$ bk diffs -u drivers/sound/maestro.c = drivers/sound/maestro.c 1.11 vs edited = --- 1.11/drivers/sound/maestro.cTue Aug 29

Re: compiling 2.4.0-test10 kernel

2000-11-10 Thread Georg Nikodym
>>>>> "KO" == Keith Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KO> On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:23:29 -0500 (EST), "Georg Nikodym" KO> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: C> i've manged to successfully compile 2.4.0-test10 kernel. however, C> upon startup

Re: compiling 2.4.0-test10 kernel

2000-11-10 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "C" == Corisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: C> hi, i'm currently running RH7, with 2.2.16-22 kernel, gcc 2.96 on C> a Sharp Actius 250 notebook. C> i've manged to successfully compile 2.4.0-test10 kernel. however, C> upon startup there are some failed/error messages: C> 1. finding

Re: compiling 2.4.0-test10 kernel

2000-11-10 Thread Georg Nikodym
"C" == Corisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C hi, i'm currently running RH7, with 2.2.16-22 kernel, gcc 2.96 on C a Sharp Actius 250 notebook. C i've manged to successfully compile 2.4.0-test10 kernel. however, C upon startup there are some failed/error messages: C 1. finding module

Re: compiling 2.4.0-test10 kernel

2000-11-10 Thread Georg Nikodym
"KO" == Keith Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: KO On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:23:29 -0500 (EST), "Georg Nikodym" KO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C i've manged to successfully compile 2.4.0-test10 kernel. however, C upon startup there are some failed/error messages: C 1. finding

Re: [bug] usb-uhci locks up on boot half the time

2000-11-08 Thread Georg Nikodym
> "DF" == David Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DF> Ok, in test10, for every 2 out of 5 boots, this particular DF> workstation locks up hard as it reaches the following: I have a similar problem. My work around is to, by hand, modprobe usbmouse, wait, modprobe usb-uhci... - To

Re: [bug] usb-uhci locks up on boot half the time

2000-11-08 Thread Georg Nikodym
"DF" == David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DF Ok, in test10, for every 2 out of 5 boots, this particular DF workstation locks up hard as it reaches the following: I have a similar problem. My work around is to, by hand, modprobe usbmouse, wait, modprobe usb-uhci... - To unsubscribe from