Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Daniel Hazelton wrote: > > If the OpenBSD developers want to attack the Linux Kernel community > > over patches that were *NEVER* *ACCEPTED* by said community, it > > should be just as fair for the Linux Kernel community to complain > > about those

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: Daniel Hazelton wrote: If the OpenBSD developers want to attack the Linux Kernel community over patches that were *NEVER* *ACCEPTED* by said community, it should be just as fair for the Linux Kernel community to complain about those

Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)

2007-09-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Eben Moglen wrote: > Also, and again for the last time, let me state that SFLC's > instructions from its clients are to establish all the facts > concerning the development of the current relevant code (which means > the painstaking reconstruction of several

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Kyle Moffett wrote: > Secondly, what the HELL is with you guys and the personal   > attacks?!?!?  You said I am "hopelessly misinformed, or a habitual   > liar"???   You are right and I apologize. I've received plenty of personal attacks from your group, and failed

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: > J.C. Roberts wrote: > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-wireless=118857712529898=2 > > Link with outdated info. > > > http://madwifi.org/browser/branches/ath5k > > Link with outdated info. > > > I suggest actually

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Sep 15, 2007, at 06:33:18, J.C. Roberts wrote: > > Would Linus put up a fight if someone took his source tree and   > > relicensed the whole thing as GPLv3 without his permission? Yep,   > > you betcha he'd fight and he h

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Kyle Moffett wrote: On Sep 15, 2007, at 06:33:18, J.C. Roberts wrote: Would Linus put up a fight if someone took his source tree and   relicensed the whole thing as GPLv3 without his permission? Yep,   you betcha he'd fight and he has already had to put up

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote: J.C. Roberts wrote: http://marc.info/?l=linux-wirelessm=118857712529898w=2 Link with outdated info. http://madwifi.org/browser/branches/ath5k Link with outdated info. I suggest actually taking the time to get the facts before making

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Kyle Moffett wrote: Secondly, what the HELL is with you guys and the personal   attacks?!?!?  You said I am hopelessly misinformed, or a habitual   liar???   You are right and I apologize. I've received plenty of personal attacks from your group, and failed to

Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)

2007-09-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 16 September 2007, Eben Moglen wrote: Also, and again for the last time, let me state that SFLC's instructions from its clients are to establish all the facts concerning the development of the current relevant code (which means the painstaking reconstruction of several independent

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-15 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thursday 13 September 2007, Jason Dixon wrote: > It boggles my mind that we can lie around complacently, arguing about >   installer menus and taking the bait from trolls, while our freedoms > are quickly eroding away.  The rights and recognition of one of our > own developers (reyk@) have been

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-15 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thursday 13 September 2007, Jason Dixon wrote: It boggles my mind that we can lie around complacently, arguing about   installer menus and taking the bait from trolls, while our freedoms are quickly eroding away.  The rights and recognition of one of our own developers (reyk@) have been