Re: 1GB system working with 64MB

2001-07-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
Add this: append="mem=1024M" to your lilo boot profiles. ... 2.4 correctly detects memory size more often than 2.2.16 ... - Original Message - From: "Edouard Soriano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 1GB system working with 64MB > Hello Folks, > Environment: linux 2.2.16smp > RedHat 7.

Re: Uncle Sam Wants YOU!

2001-07-01 Thread Michael Rothwell
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Re: Soft updates for 2.5?

2001-07-01 Thread Michael Rothwell
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Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-21 Thread Michael Rothwell
On 20 Jun 2001 10:14:48 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > It does. ... not > They are always readable. That's not very useful. Not in the sense of supporting aync, non-blocking i/o to disk files without using threads. -- Michael Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this lis

Re: Alan Cox quote? (was: Re: accounting for threads)

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
On 19 Jun 2001 20:01:56 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > Linux inherits several unix properties which are not friendly to good state > based programming - lack of good AIO for one. Oh, how I would love for select() and poll() to work on files... or for any other working AIO mothods to be present. What

Re: threading question

2001-06-16 Thread Michael Rothwell
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Re: ps2 keyboard filter hook

2001-06-16 Thread Michael Rothwell
put api stuff for ps/2 devices will be a part of the mainstream kernel... -- Michael Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: keyboard hook?

2001-06-04 Thread Michael Rothwell
Thanks, I'm loking through your driver now. Does the input api already/currently support ps2 keyboards? -M On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 08:40:04PM -0700, James Simmons wrote: > > Hi! > >Your best bet for a kernel driver is to use the linux input api like > the usb keyboard do. The drivers are

Re: keyboard hook?

2001-06-04 Thread Michael Rothwell
Input API looks nice. For now, I'll write a patch against pc_keyb.c to add a hook for my qoder stuff, and a loadable module for the meat of the driver. Then I'll port up to the input API. The Qoder is strictly ps/2 keyboard, as far as its interface goes, so I cannot use the input API for now. I

keyboard hook?

2001-06-02 Thread Michael Rothwell
rmat that data and make it available via /proc, or something. Does anyone have any suggestions before I go ugly-up the keyboard driver? Thanks, -- Michael Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMA

OOPS - 2.2.19, USB, Scanner

2001-05-15 Thread Michael Rothwell
Just your friendly neighborhood oops report. Unfortunately, the kernel didn't log very much: May 14 18:00:49 gateway kernel: scanner.c: read_scanner(0): funky result:-32. Please notify the maintainer. May 14 18:01:13 gateway PAM_pwdb[10338]: (login) session opened for user rothwell by (uid=0)

Re: Linux syscall speed -- was X15 rootin-tootin webserver

2001-05-04 Thread Michael Rothwell
There seems to be a contingent of people on the LKML who think that it is appropriate to flame people off-list, in order to bask in their own superiority, or prove that they are smarter by pointing out that someone is an idiot, etc. I would figure that most intelligent people would simply ignore p

Linux syscall speed -- was X15 rootin-tootin webserver

2001-05-02 Thread Michael Rothwell
According to tests performed at IBM: http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-rt1/ Linux's sycalls are a little more than twice as fast as those of Windows 2000. 0.75usec vs 2.0msec. Not too shabby. And this "magic page" idea means it may get faster. -M - To unsubscribe from this

Re: Common GUI Config for All Users

2001-04-30 Thread Michael Rothwell
To whom are you referring? -M On 30 Apr 2001 10:11:04 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you for the =constructive= answer Mohammad. I have thusfar only received >criticism for my question, with no further information, which I think is destructive >to the spirit of the list, and to the c

Re: #define HZ 1024 -- negative effects?

2001-04-29 Thread Michael Rothwell
Great. I'm running 4.02. How do I enable "silken mouse"? Thanks, -Michael On 29 Apr 2001 14:44:11 -0700, Jim Gettys wrote: > The biggest single issue in GUI responsiveness on Linux has been caused > by XFree86's implementation of mouse tracking in user space. > > On typical UNIX systems, the m

Re: Sony Memory stick format funnies...

2001-04-28 Thread Michael Rothwell
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "dcim" probably stands for "digital camera images". At least Canon > digital cameras always put their data in a directory named dcim. Makes sense. FAT's root directory is limited in the number of entries it can contain, to something like 32. Cameras c

Re: Common GUI Config for All Users

2001-04-28 Thread Michael Rothwell
Hmmm... this is the kernel list... not only the wrong place to ask UI questions, but lots of people here don't even like UIs. :) http://www.gnome.org -M - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: Common GUI Conf

Re: #define HZ 1024 -- negative effects

2001-04-25 Thread Michael Rothwell
Well, for kicks, I tried setting HZ to 1024 with 2.2.19. It seemed a little more responsive, but that could be psychosomatic. :) I did notice that I was unable to sync my palm pilot until I set it back to 100. YMMV. The most useful "performace" tweak for a GUI that I've come across is: #define

#define HZ 1024 -- negative effects?

2001-04-24 Thread Michael Rothwell
Are there any negative effects of editing include/asm/param.h to change HZ from 100 to 1024? Or any other number? This has been suggested as a way to improve the responsiveness of the GUI on a Linux system. Does it throw off anything else, like serial port timing, etc.? - To unsubscribe from t

usb insmod hang w/2.4.2

2001-03-24 Thread Michael Rothwell
I'm installing Linux onto a Compaq iPaq IA-1 -- the little "MSN Companion" thing. I wish Compaq didn't feel compelled to name everything "iPaq." This device is essentially a laptop with a strange case, no hard drive, and 32MB of RAM. It has a VIA chipset and four USB ports. The southbridge is a VT

Re: opening files in /proc, and modules

2001-03-08 Thread Michael Rothwell
Sweet! Thanks! I'm working on 2.2 for now, but the 2.4 API looks nicer... :) -M On 08 Mar 2001 11:43:24 -0500, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > On 8 Mar 2001, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > > Figured it out -- I think. This appears to be the answer: > > > &g

Re: opening files in /proc, and modules

2001-03-08 Thread Michael Rothwell
) { MOD_DEC_USE_COUNT; return; }; if (v==1) { MOD_INC_USE_COUNT; return; }; }; ... right? :) On 08 Mar 2001 11:01:28 -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote: > How can I detect that open() has been called on a file in procfs that a > module provides? If I modprobe my module, open one or more

opening files in /proc, and modules

2001-03-08 Thread Michael Rothwell
How can I detect that open() has been called on a file in procfs that a module provides? If I modprobe my module, open one or more if its proc entries, then rmmod the module while the proc files are still open, then the deletion of those entries is deferred. When I close the file(s), the kernel oo

physmem w/o proc

2001-03-03 Thread Michael Rothwell
physmem= `head -10 /var/log/dmesg | grep Memory: | cut -d" " -f2 | cut -d "/" -f1 | cut -d"k" -f1` - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read

Re: Q: How to get physical memory size from user space without procfs

2001-03-03 Thread Michael Rothwell
pyhsmem = `free | grep Mem | tr -s "/ / /" | cut -f2 -d" "` On 03 Mar 2001 13:37:42 -0500, Denis Perchine wrote: > Hello, > > actually the question is in subj. > Problem is that there is a program which needs to know physical memory > size. This information is used to justify memory consumption

Re: VT82C586B USB PCI card, Linux USB

2001-03-03 Thread Michael Rothwell
On 03 Mar 2001 12:54:36 +0100, Vojtech Pavlik wrote: > No, they have a separate USB chip, but it has the same PCI ID as the > builtin silicon in the southbridge. Ah. I went and looked up that chip ID at via's website, and saw only southbridge chips, no USB-only chips at all. But, my real questio

VT82C586B USB PCI card, Linux USB

2001-03-02 Thread Michael Rothwell
I have a USB PCI card, which shows up as this in `lspci`: 00:09.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 04) ... it appears that they tossed the whole southbridge chip onto a pci board, and disabled everything but USB. Anyway, this device seems to be semi-functional under 2.2.

Re: CPRM is dead; Thanks Andre!

2001-02-22 Thread Michael Rothwell
> IBM withdrew the proposal. ... from public view - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: LILO and serial speeds over 9600

2001-02-12 Thread Michael Rothwell
> Then HPA may ask: but why do you want to run the serial console at > 115200?? The answer is simple: because we ... ... don't want to drag out debugging the kernel on a 38400 connection. Because printks are our only debugging option ("thanks", Linus), and a slow serial port block and can change

Re: "kaweth" usb ethernet driver in 2.4?

2001-02-04 Thread Michael Rothwell
Thanks. Has Brad Hards made his version available somewhere? -M - Original Message - From: "Eric Sandeen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: R

Re: "kaweth" usb ethernet driver in 2.4?

2001-02-03 Thread Michael Rothwell
On 03 Feb 2001 14:22:02 -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote: > The driver is included with the USB stuff for 2.2, but not in 2.4. That's because we stopped fooling with 2.4 around the middle of the pre-test-ac series of releases. We'll probably pick it back up around 2.4.7 or so. > It also doesn't seem

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-29 Thread Michael Rothwell
Mo McKinlay wrote: > I would too, but POSIX won't let us unless we start enforcing side-effect > rules for all filesystems. Hence why I came up with openstream() :) So, openstream() is probably the most painless way to get named streams support into Linux in the immediate future. Openstream() wil

unmapping inode?

2001-01-23 Thread Michael Rothwell
>From within a filesystem driver, how would I completely remove a page cache mapping for an inode in 2.2.18? -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-21 Thread Michael Rothwell
., Win32) apps, there are limitations on what a filename can contain. -M - Original Message - From: "Albert D. Cahalan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Michael Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Mo McKinlay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Peter Samuelson&

2.2.18 and mkraid

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
What version of the raidtools to I need for 2.2.18 software raid? Documentation/md.txt has a non-functional URL in it. Thanks. -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
Mo McKinlay wrote: > Nono, that's not what I mean - each of the filesystems fails if it > doesn't support what you're trying to do, that's given - but having a > different delimeter registered by the filesystem (and hence the > possibility of every single filesystem using a different delimeter) b

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
Mo McKinlay wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Today, Michael Rothwell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > The filesystem, when registering that it supports the "named streams" > > namespace, could specify its preferred

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
Mo McKinlay wrote: > (Take symbolic linking, for example - if you ln -s on VFAT, you get > 'operation not permitted' - named stream/EA operations on a filesystem > that doesn't support them should return the same, IMHO). And they would, if the chosen namespace was not supported. > Also, I don't

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
Mo McKinlay wrote: > openstream(file, stream, flags) > > Where 'file' should be an fd (although i'm sure the VFS gods will think of > plenty of reasons why this is a bad idea, at which point I'll > conventiently change my mind ;). Stream is simply the name of the stream, > flags are as with open

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
Mo McKinlay wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Today, Michael Rothwell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Unfortunately, unix allows everything but "/" in filenames. This was > > probably a mistake, as it makes it nearly i

Re:

2001-01-19 Thread Michael Rothwell
Robert Kaiser wrote: > > On Thu Jan 18 16:30:30 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > Has anyone had any luck getting a 2.4 kernel to run on Cobalt x86 > > hardware? It doesn't even seem to start (I get nothing on the screen from > >t he kernel, it just sits there and does nothing). :( > > What proc

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-18 Thread Michael Rothwell
Unfortunately, unix allows everything but "/" in filenames. This was probably a mistake, as it makes it nearly impossible to augment the namespace, but it is the reality. Did you read the "new namespace" section of the paper? It also talked a bit about supporting Extended Attributes, which are a

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-16 Thread Michael Rothwell
> What if you copy both 'filename' and 'filename:ext' onto the same fs? > Do they get combined into one file? ON Ext2, you get two files. On NTFS, you get one file, and a stream on that file. > Any semantics by which 'filename:stream' and 'filename' refer to the > same file would be b0rken. If

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-16 Thread Michael Rothwell
"James H. Cloos Jr." wrote: > > Michael> Please read and comment! :) > > There should be some discussion on what to do about filenames which > contain colons in such a setup. Moving a file w/ a colon from a fs > which does not support named streams to one which does should DTRT; > exactly what

Re: O_NONBLOCK, read(), select(), NFS, Ext2, etc.

2001-01-12 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > > > using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return > > immediately and not block the calling process. This does not appear to > > be true; but perhaps I am doing something wrong. If I open() a file (on > > 2.2.18) from a floppy or NFS mount (to test in a s

O_NONBLOCK, read(), select(), NFS, Ext2, etc.

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Rothwell
The man pages for open, read and write say that if a file is opened using the O_NONBLOCK flag, then read() and write() will always return immediately and not block the calling process. This does not appear to be true; but perhaps I am doing something wrong. If I open() a file (on 2.2.18) from a fl

Re: named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Rothwell
CORRECTION: > existing, widely-deployed filesystems (e.g., NFS, XFS, BeFS, HFS, etc.), NTFS---^ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org

named streams, extended attributes, and posix

2001-01-11 Thread Michael Rothwell
Now that 2.4 is out, it will probably be a few .x releases until 2.5 begins. A discussion on Named Streams and Extended Attributes was put off until 2.5 earlier in the 2.4 development cycle. For compatibility with existing, widely-deployed filesystems (e.g., NFS, XFS, BeFS, HFS, etc.), Linux need

Re: Journaling: Surviving or allowing unclean shutdown?

2001-01-03 Thread Michael Rothwell
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Dr. David Gilbert wrote: > > > I got wondering as to whether the various journaling file > > system activities were designed to survive the occasional > > unclean shutdown or were designed to allow the user to just pull > > the plug as a regular means of shutting down. >

Re: high load & poor interactivity on fast thread creation

2000-12-27 Thread Michael Rothwell
Ruth Ivimey-Cook wrote: > No. Java on NT uses proper NT threads. However, a thread on NT is a rather > different beast to a cloned thread on Linux. I don't know whether the > differences are important. On Linux, threads are processes. On NT, processes are distinct from threads, and usually have a

Re: iptables: "stateful inspection?"

2000-12-22 Thread Michael Rothwell
Felix von Leitner wrote: > > > IPChains is essentially useless as a firewall due to its lack of > > stateful packet filering. > > Bullshit. > Go back to the bowels or Redmond where you belong, luser. Thanks. I appreciate that. -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linu

Re: iptables: "stateful inspection?"

2000-12-20 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > There have been at least five holes found in pile that _could_ have been > [speech] > safe is the day you end up hurt. Your specific example of an executable (windows) attachment, not buffer overflows, etc. what what I was replying to. In general, you are correct. Now, how abou

Re: iptables: "stateful inspection?"

2000-12-20 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > It does SYN checking. If you are running 'serious' security you wouldnt be > allowing outgoing connections anyway. One windows christmascard.exe virus that > connects back to an irc server to take input and you are hosed. Thankfully, pine and mutt are, to date, immune to that k

Re: iptables: "stateful inspection?"

2000-12-20 Thread Michael Rothwell
"Michael H. Warfield" wrote: > You can use spf to add some stateful inspection for PORT mode > ftp. Personally, I like the masquerading option better, though. Can you give an example of using MASQ selectively? I have real addresses on both sides of the firewall, but want things like FTP

Re: iptables: "stateful inspection?"

2000-12-20 Thread Michael Rothwell
"Michael H. Warfield" wrote: > I think that's more than a little overstatement on your > part. It depends entirely on the application you intend to put > it to. Fine. How do I make FTP work through it? How can I allow all outgoing TCP connections without opening the network to inbound

iptables: "stateful inspection?"

2000-12-20 Thread Michael Rothwell
IPChains is essentially useless as a firewall due to its lack of stateful packet filering. Will the IPTables code in 2.4 maintain connection state? -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at htt

Re: [PATCH] Re: Linux 2.2.19pre1 : procfs api

2000-12-16 Thread Michael Rothwell
Heh. Mangleage. :) Willy Tarreau wrote: > > Hello Michael, I wonder about this patch which only fixes an Id/author but no > code. It may be perfectly normal, but could also come from a mangled file in > one of your trees. Just for info anyway... > > Cheers, > Willy > > > diff -r -u -x CVS -x

[PATCH] Re: Linux 2.2.19pre1 64-bit printk

2000-12-15 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > Ok this is the first block of changes before we merge the VM stuff. This is > mostly the bits left over from the 2.2.18 port that were deferred as too > risky near the end of a prerelease set and some bug swats And here is the 64-bit printk patch -- a backport of the 2.4.0 code

[PATCH] Re: Linux 2.2.19pre1 : procfs api

2000-12-15 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > Ok this is the first block of changes before we merge the VM stuff. This is > mostly the bits left over from the 2.2.18 port that were deferred as too > risky near the end of a prerelease set and some bug swats Here's the procfs patch again... :) Because the 2.2.18 procfs api i

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Michael Rothwell
> Also, 9P is a general communications framework only in the context of > Plan9 itself. In reality it only applys directly/well to filesystem > related issues... the reason it works well in Plan9 is that _everything_ > is a file (part of the beauty of plan9). So... in a 9P-enabled system, you w

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-13 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alexander Viro wrote: > p9fs exists. I didn't see these patches since August, but probably I can poke > Roman into porting it to the current tree. 9P is quite simple and unlike > CORBA it had been designed for taking kernel stuff to userland. Besides, > authors definitely understand UNIX... I

Re: linux 2.2.18 inconsistencies/problems (minor)

2000-12-13 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > Real bug - thanks. I'll squash that in 19pre1 When will you be starting 19pre1? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-12 Thread Michael Rothwell
josef höök wrote: > > What about implementing 9P instead That would rock. Plan9 is unix done the right way -- i.e., the fully consistent way. I'd love to see 9p in Linux. We're heading that direction anyway, with procfs, devfs, etc. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe li

Re: ANNOUNCE: Linux Kernel ORB: kORBit

2000-12-11 Thread Michael Rothwell
Ben Ford wrote: > Why would you *ever* want to write a device driver in perl??? Well, Perl, I don't know. But the USB 'driver' for my Canon PowerShot S20 runs in userspace. Seems a safer place to do things. -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body

Re: Linux 2.2.18 almost...

2000-12-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > > The patch I intend to be 2.2.18 is out as 2.2.18pre26 in the usual place. > I'll move it over tomorrow if nobody reports any horrors, missing files etc Fresh 2.2.17, "patch -p1 < /pre-patch-2.2.18-26" can't find file to patch at input line 38909 Perhaps you used the wrong -

Re: [PATCH] 2.4.0 proc_fs for 2.2.18: UPDATED

2000-12-08 Thread Michael Rothwell
Michael Rothwell wrote: > > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > Why is 2.2.18 proc_fs.c different than both 2.2.17 and 2.4.0? Cox, would > > > you accept a patch that makes 2.2.18 define create_proc_info_entry and > > > related functions the same way that 2.4.0 d

[PATCH] 2.4.0 proc_fs for 2.2.18

2000-12-08 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > > > Why is 2.2.18 proc_fs.c different than both 2.2.17 and 2.4.0? Cox, would > > you accept a patch that makes 2.2.18 define create_proc_info_entry and > > related functions the same way that 2.4.0 does? > > Send me a diff and I'll be happy to Here it is, both inlined and as a

2.2.18 vs 2.4.0 proc_fs.c

2000-12-07 Thread Michael Rothwell
Why is 2.2.18 proc_fs.c different than both 2.2.17 and 2.4.0? Cox, would you accept a patch that makes 2.2.18 define create_proc_info_entry and related functions the same way that 2.4.0 does? 2.2.17: does not define this 2.2.18: #define create_proc_info_entry(n, m, b, g) \ { \

ext2 sparse superblocks

2000-11-18 Thread Michael Rothwell
I'm looking for documentation on Ext2's support for sparse superblocks. Canvasing search engines gets me the same two references to tune2fs and the dac960. I've also looked in /usr/doc and /usr/src/linux/Documentation without success. What it the method uses to reduce the number of superblocks? H

Re: Advanced Linux Kernel/Enterprise Linux Kernel

2000-11-14 Thread Michael Rothwell
"Richard B. Johnson" wrote: > Relating some "nine goals of 'Enterprise Computing'" to Multics is > the bullshit. Funny, I got those off the "Multics FAQ" page. -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read

Re: Advanced Linux Kernel/Enterprise Linux Kernel

2000-11-14 Thread Michael Rothwell
Michael Rothwell wrote: > > Mike Dresser wrote: > > > What's that $0.02 worth after 35 years of inflation? > > About $6 Sorry.. six times a much... not six dollars. Which means $0.02 circa 1965 is 'worth' $0.12 today, given an average annual devaluation of

Re: Advanced Linux Kernel/Enterprise Linux Kernel

2000-11-14 Thread Michael Rothwell
"Richard B. Johnson" wrote: > Multics??? [..] way too many persons on this list who know the history of > Unix to try this BS. So, you're saying their nine goals were bullshit? Multics had a lot of problems. But it did a lot of ground-breaking. Perhaps you should reply to the nine goals, or the

Re: Advanced Linux Kernel/Enterprise Linux Kernel

2000-11-14 Thread Michael Rothwell
Mike Dresser wrote: > What's that $0.02 worth after 35 years of inflation? About $6 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: Advanced Linux Kernel/Enterprise Linux Kernel

2000-11-14 Thread Michael Rothwell
One historically significant "Enterprise" OS is Multics. It had nine major goals. Perhaps we should think about how Linux measures up to these 1965 goals for "Enterprise Computing." 1) Convenient remote terminal use. Telnet, ssh, X windows, rsh, vnc, "screen," ethernet, serial, etc. I think we

Re: anyone compiled 2.2.17 on RH7 successfully?

2000-11-13 Thread Michael Rothwell
GCCLOC=`which gcc` rm `echo $GCCLOC` ln -s `which kgcc` `echo $GCCLOC` ... repeat for g++ -M Corisen wrote: > > thanks for the info. i've kgcc installed during RH7 installation. i've > checked the version to be 2.91.66. i've used the following 2 methods with > kgcc but it won't even allow me

Re: latest 2.2.18-X patch?

2000-11-12 Thread Michael Rothwell
t_intel.com503-677-5408| > |NOTE: Any views presented here are mine alone| > |& may not represent the views of my employer.| > --- > > > From: Michael Rothwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Where's the best

latest 2.2.18-X patch?

2000-11-12 Thread Michael Rothwell
Where's the best place to get the latest 2.2.18 kernel? And does it include the USB backport? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-11 Thread Michael Rothwell
Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > And I am still very fond of the idea of crash dumping to a network server ;-) I second that. Serial can be slow, and has that pesky cable-length limit... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-10 Thread Michael Rothwell
Matti Aarnio wrote: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 04:35:33PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > Sounds great; unfortunately, the core group has spoken out against a > > modular kernel. > > Really ? > > $ /sbin/lsmod > Module Siz

Re: [bug] kernel panic related to reiserfs, 2.4.0-test11-pre1 and 3.6.18

2000-11-10 Thread Michael Rothwell
David Ford wrote: > With kdb, after the panic happens, I can hit 'sr s' then 'g', it will > OOPS (process sendmail) then continue. Without kdb, I am SOL and have > to hit the power button. sysrq won't react. Debugger good. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kerne

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-10 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alexander "see figure 1" Viro wrote: > Sorry. You don't "embed" the patch. You either get it accepted or not. > Or you fork the tree and then it's officially None Of My Problems(tm). Sounds like a good idea. -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the bo

Re: Kernel 2.2.17 bug found

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Tim Waugh wrote: > You forgot to 'cd .' Look for "pebsak" messages in /var/log/syslog ;) - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > RTLinux is hardly a fork. UcLinux is a fork, it has its own mailing list, web > site and everything. Post 2.4 I'm still very interested in spending time merging > the 2.4 uc and the main tree. I think it can be done and they are doing it in > a way that leads logically to this.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alexander Viro wrote: > > Figure 1? > > Use search engine. On google "See Figure 1" brings the thing in the first > 5 hits. http://www.google.com/search?q=See+Figure+1&btnG=Google+Search -> http://spiffy.cso.uiuc.edu/~kline/Stuff/see-figure-1.html -> http://spiffy.cso.uiuc.edu/~kline/Stuff/f-yo

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alexander Viro wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > > Same as before -- freedom and low cost. The primary advantae of Linux > > over other OSes is the GPL. > > Now, that's more than slightly insulting... Well, it wasn't meant to be. I

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Paul Jakma wrote: > > On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > > Why? I think the IBM GKHI code would be of tremendous value. It would > > make the kernel much more flexible, and for users, much more friendly. > > No more patch-and-recompile to add a filesys

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote: > And we already refuse to support those kernels - your point being? Who says you would support theirs? My point is, forks have been made in the past and are useful for the people that use them, and prevent "pollution" of the common kernel with hghly specialized modifica

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Christoph Rohland wrote: > If we really need a special enterprise tree lets do > it without module tricks. Why? I think the IBM GKHI code would be of tremendous value. It would make the kernel much more flexible, and for users, much more friendly. No more patch-and-recompile to add a filesystem o

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-09 Thread Michael Rothwell
Christoph Rohland wrote: > If we would not allow binary only modules I would not have such a big > problem with that... I'm not sure how you would do that. > I understand that the one size fits all approach has some limitations > if you want to run on PDAs up to big iron. But a framework to ove

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)

2000-11-08 Thread Michael Rothwell
Sounds great; unfortunately, the core group has spoken out against a modular kernel. Perhaps IBM should get together with SGI, HP and other interested parties and start an Advanced Linux Kernel Project. Then they can run off and make their scalable, modular, enterprise kernel and the Linus Versio

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre20

2000-11-08 Thread Michael Rothwell
Hello? -M Michael Rothwell wrote: > > Alan Cox wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 09:02:36PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > > > 64-bit printk. > > > > > > Please consider this one Alan, if not for v2.2.18, then at least for > >

Re: [RANT] Linux-IrDA status

2000-11-08 Thread Michael Rothwell
Linus Torvalds wrote: > and these people expect me to reply, sending long explanations of why I > don't like them? After they did nothing of the sort for the code they > claim should have been applied? Nada. Did you say that to them? I'm not saying you're wrong; but did you tell them that? It mig

Re: [RANT] Linux-IrDA status

2000-11-07 Thread Michael Rothwell
Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > > > Linus, can you post reasons why you keep ignoring^W rejecting the IrDA > > patch? > > Basically, whatever Alan rants, I've not seen the patches all that many > times at all. >

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre20

2000-11-07 Thread Michael Rothwell
Alan Cox wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 09:02:36PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > > 64-bit printk. > > > > Please consider this one Alan, if not for v2.2.18, then at least for > > v2.2.19pre1. > > Nobody has explained why we even need it. Al

Re: Linux 2.2.18pre20

2000-11-07 Thread Michael Rothwell
64-bit printk. -M Alan Cox wrote: > > Ok last call for 2.2.18. The PS/2 cases I've looked at all appear to be > ghost PS/2 interfaces created due to the USB support fooling programs. diff -B --unidirectional-new-file --exclude-from=DiffExcludeList --recursive --unified linux-2.2.16/include/as

continuing VM madness

2000-11-07 Thread Michael Rothwell
Should kswapd and klogd ever get "do_try_to_free_pages failed"? when this happens my machine is destabilized, and pauses briefly from time to time before locking up or otherwise becoming inert. This is 2.2.16+USB. Nov 7 14:51:36 cartman kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... Nov

Re: working nfs v3 for linux?

2000-11-02 Thread Michael Rothwell
Okay, how about the nfsv3 kernel patch for 2.2.17? Does anyone know how well (reliably) it works in client and server mode? Thanks! -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org

Re: working userspace nfs v3 for linux?

2000-11-01 Thread Michael Rothwell
Aaron Denney wrote: > I am not aware of any userspace NFSv3 server. Your best bet would > probably to take the v2 server and mutate it. Why do you want this beast? So I can use Linux rather than Solaris 7 and the Solstice Disk Suite, which performs like crap thanks to UFS, and the Linux NFS v2

Re: working userspace nfs v3 for linux?

2000-11-01 Thread Michael Rothwell
Andi Kleen wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 02:59:05PM -0500, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > Is there a working userspace nfs v3 server for linux? > > Yes, just install user mode linux and use its v3 knfsd server. Does anyone have any suggestions that aren't jokes, don

working userspace nfs v3 for linux?

2000-11-01 Thread Michael Rothwell
Is there a working userspace nfs v3 server for linux? -M - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

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