Re: Fund Management.
On Wednesday 07 September 2005 08:34 pm, Mr. Liam Johnson wrote: > Dear Sir, > > Please accept my sincere apologies if my email does not meet > your business or personal ethics. Apology accepted. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpxsGQwcMSJj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Initramfs and TMPFS!
On Saturday 27 August 2005 07:41 pm, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > No offence Chris, but not everybody under 25 is an asshole. Get real. We have two things colliding here: 1) People in the FOSS community often are assholes 2) People under 25 often are assholes ... ergo, people in the FOSS community and under 25 are an impossibly vast majority of assholes. I, for one, welcome our new 25 year old FOSS overlords. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpvCRlmcqGdF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Initramfs and TMPFS!
On Saturday 27 August 2005 06:45 pm, Kent Robotti wrote: > Are you satisfied ass? ... said the troll. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpE93ut8iya8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Kernel/Box Freezes Under Kernel 2.6.12.5
On Friday 26 August 2005 05:36 pm, Justin Piszcz wrote: > 2- ATA/133 Maxtor (ATA/Promise Controller) Make sure its actually the kernel and not that controller. Go find another identical one and test with it. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpaQMYAAXGrv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Petition for gas grices
On Thursday 25 August 2005 02:44 pm, Lee Revell wrote: > Take the fucking bus, ride a bike, or just fucking move closer to work. > What ever gave all you people the idea that driving 50 miles each way to > work was sustainable in the first place? I can't believe how many > otherwise rational people have a gigantic blind spot for this. Or get a hybird vehicle. IMHO its seriously worth it. Doing 50mpg+ would be cheap even if gas is $5 per gallon (predicted price for 2006). Better than the 3mpg SUV mechanical whales everyone drives around. Costs like $90 to fill the tank, and you have to fill the tank just going up the road to get a loaf of bread. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpsfrcLrittj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6.12.5: P4 2.0GHz detected as 2.6GHz?
On Friday 19 August 2005 05:37 am, Martin Zwickel wrote: > Did someone overclock our router or is this a misdetection? > Detected 2655.765 MHz processor. > CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz stepping 07 > model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.00GHz > cpu MHz : 2655.765 I bet its overclocked. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpaQ9rAiRXdI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: **SPAM** [PATCH 3/3] usb gadget driver for MQ11xx graphics chip
On Wednesday 03 August 2005 05:49 pm, Nick Sillik wrote: > Michael Krufky wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > The email subject. "Re: **SPAM** [PATCH 3/3] usb gadget driver for > > MQ11xx graphics chip" ... Was that an accident, or did my email server > > take over my headers? (i'm not running any spam filering software or > > anything) > > > > If this happened on your end, you might want to re-send that one... > > Some email clients automatically filter messages containing "**SPAM**" > > in subject line. > > Nope, isn't on your end. I'm seeing them too. I thought my mailserver > had gone off its rocker. I'm glad to know that others are seeing this. I see it too. Looks like maybe his ISP filters outgoing mail with their anti-spam stuff? -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgp4AnAqe3dHt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Regarding KDB for REDHAT9.0
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Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 10:29 pm, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > Ok... I know that sidewinder needs its timeouts increased to about 6ms to > work with 2.6. Have you tried OSS driver - to make sure that layer above > the soundcard works? Well, thats what I've been thinking thats screwing me. Because I've been using ALSA since my 2.4.x days (I switched over to 2.6 and 2.6.1), and I know my analog joystick works with ALSA and 2.6 (I just don't know when the bug appeared) and I've also upgraded my ALSA userland over the years. Infact, I'm almost convinced that the ALSA userland is causing the bug. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpDbDzler9i4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 10:12 pm, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > On Wednesday 20 April 2005 20:42, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > On Wednesday 20 April 2005 12:47 am, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > > I just tested 2.6.6, it seems to be broken too. I wonder if this > > > actually is a kernel issue, I should have found a working kernel by > > > now. I'll continue to 2.6.5. > > > > I just tried 2.6.5 and 2.6.4. No go. Only 3 kernels left. > > Are you testing with sidewinder? I test both my analog and sidewinders. Not that it matters, my analog is the one I had first, I only got the sidewinder recently. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpNoA6bGfyxy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 12:47 am, Patrick McFarland wrote: > I just tested 2.6.6, it seems to be broken too. I wonder if this actually > is a kernel issue, I should have found a working kernel by now. I'll > continue to 2.6.5. I just tried 2.6.5 and 2.6.4. No go. Only 3 kernels left. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpr6v9XlFNS2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux 2.6.12-rc3
On Wednesday 20 April 2005 09:09 pm, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > Why is kb not used anymore? What happened? Linus decided that keyboards are out, and voice activation is in. Remember to use a high quality microphone! -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpA1nFX5rQ0f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Thursday 14 April 2005 09:18 pm, Patrick McFarland wrote: > I haven't tested 2.6.6 yet, but 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 is broken too. I just tested 2.6.6, it seems to be broken too. I wonder if this actually is a kernel issue, I should have found a working kernel by now. I'll continue to 2.6.5. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpQ7ZQp9RZhQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Thursday 14 April 2005 09:26 pm, Lee Revell wrote: > On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 21:18 -0400, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > On Thursday 07 April 2005 07:17 am, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > > Nope, 2.6.7 is also fubar. Now to 2.6.6. > > > > I haven't tested 2.6.6 yet, but 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 is broken too. > > There's no point in testing newer kernels if you have yet to find an old > 2.6 kernel where it works. I didn't explicitly test it. I just updated my usual running kernel, and it just happens that it didn't magically start working again. > Do you have any evidence that it ever worked with ALSA? I suspect it's > always been broken, and that 2.6.8 or 2.6.9 system you referred to was > using the OSS driver. Nope, I haven't used OSS in a very very very very long time. Back when I used 2.4 (which ended when 2.6.1 was released) I used ALSA. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpTVVQztmzpm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Thursday 07 April 2005 07:17 am, Patrick McFarland wrote: > Nope, 2.6.7 is also fubar. Now to 2.6.6. I haven't tested 2.6.6 yet, but 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 is broken too. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpmsePv0Q4iB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [patch 198/198] md: remove a number of misleading calls to MD_BUG
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 06:33 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ginormous patch of sudden death and complete destruction. I would like to give you the Longest Patch on LKML Ever Award, for this 198 part monstrosity. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgp0Mc7AdvJ9p.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: snd-ens1371 (alsa) & joystick woes
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 07:10 am, Guillaume Chazarain wrote: > Hi, > > From 2.6.11 to 2.6.12-rc2, there are some changes in the joystick > behaviour that I don't think are expected. It's a simple joystick using > analog.ko plugged > on a sound board using snd-ens1371. So here we go: I've had a running thread about snd-ens1371 issues. And I have no clue wtf is going on. On mine, it refuses to detect any joystick. Yet, my problem has been going on since _atleast_ 2.6.7. (atleast, from what I've seen.) Something broke, and it broke hard. Speaking of which... is there anyone out there with a ens1371 that actually works right with joysticks? -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgp3UTrI5gMUn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Thursday 07 April 2005 03:52 pm, Ian Pilcher wrote: > Any chance the joystick is just broken? Nope. What works: 1) _Both_ joysticks (one that uses the analog driver, the other that uses the sidewinder driver) work fine under Win2k. 2) Sound works under both Linux and Win2k. 3) The analog joystick (I didn't have the sidewinder yet) use to work at some point in the past on this system with a 2.6 kernel. What doesn't work: 1) Either the analog or sidewinder joysticks using any kernel I've tested so far, loading snd_ens1371 using either joystick=1 or joystick_port=1 (I test both out of habit). (Loaded in the order of snd_ens1371 (which loads gameport), joydev, and then analog or sidewinder. Putting joydev or gameport or both before snd_ens1371 doesn't improve the situation.) -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpnzCb9kXSAy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 11:59 pm, Patrick McFarland wrote: > 2.6.8 is also fubar. Now to 2.6.7 Nope, 2.6.7 is also fubar. Now to 2.6.6. BTW, can the ALSA userland in anyway screw me here? I mean,the joystick stuff shouldn't have anything to do with it at all... but -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpeO8mubBXDN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Sunday 27 March 2005 06:23 am, Patrick McFarland wrote: > On Friday 25 March 2005 09:28 am, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > Nope, 2.6.10 is broken too. Now, off to 2.6.9... > > Hrm, 2.6.9 is also broke. 2.6.8 is next. (I should be coming along a > working kernel any time now...) That whacky real life thing showed up again. 2.6.8 is also fubar. Now to 2.6.7 -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpPKOE6mEcF4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Do not misuse Coverity please
On Wednesday 30 March 2005 01:55 pm, Olivier Galibert wrote: > Actually it is. Dereferencing a null pointer is either undefined or > implementation-dependant in the standard (don't remember which), and > as such the compiler can do whatever it wants, be it starting nethack Can this be configured to start slashem instead? ;) > or not doing the dereference in the first place. What scares me is, "Is there any code in the kernel that does this, or something similarly stupid?". I regard the linux kernel as mostly sane, and I'd rather not have that illusion of safety broken* any time soon. Sure, its great for an app to randomly segfault, but having the kernel oops randomly is not much fun. To quote a sig I once saw on usenet: "Why Linux is better than Windows, Reason #325: No needing to reboot every 15 seconds; or every 3 seconds during full moons." * I am by no means an expert on kernel programing -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpZGc6va1t1J.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Friday 25 March 2005 09:28 am, Patrick McFarland wrote: > Nope, 2.6.10 is broken too. Now, off to 2.6.9... Hrm, 2.6.9 is also broke. 2.6.8 is next. (I should be coming along a working kernel any time now...) -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpJgBuarOzZN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Thursday 24 March 2005 01:00 am, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 23:41, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 09:19 pm, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > > I haven't tested it with 2.6.11 yet... real life showed up, and hasn't > > > gone away yet. *stab!* I'll be testing it right after I send this > > > email. > > > > Nope, 2.6.11 is also broken. > > Ok, so the good news is that I did not break it... Coudl you try 2.6.10 to > see when it got broken. Nope, 2.6.10 is broken too. Now, off to 2.6.9... -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpFgYayBJ0Wk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 09:19 pm, Patrick McFarland wrote: > I haven't tested it with 2.6.11 yet... real life showed up, and hasn't gone > away yet. *stab!* I'll be testing it right after I send this email. Nope, 2.6.11 is also broken. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpEtM6UEaWTx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Tuesday 22 March 2005 08:58 am, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 07:06:07 -0500, Patrick McFarland > Ok, just so I know where we stand: your gameport/joystick does work in > plain 2.6.11 but does not in 2.6.11-mm4, correct? When you load the > module with "joystick_port=1" is there any messages from ens1371 in > dmesg? Have you tried specifying exact port, like > "joystick_port=0x200" or "joystick_port=0x218"? Do you see these ports > reserved in /proc/ioports? What about /sys/bus/gameport/devices/? Do > you see anything in that directory? I haven't tested it with 2.6.11 yet... real life showed up, and hasn't gone away yet. *stab!* I'll be testing it right after I send this email. With joystick_port=1 there are no messages from the module, I've tried a bunch of specific ports, and it doesn't work. The ports are not reserved in /proc/ioports. /sys/bus/gameport/devices is empty. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpTo0ELeNVME.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Monday 21 March 2005 10:49 pm, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > On Monday 21 March 2005 22:41, Patrick McFarland wrote: > > On Monday 21 March 2005 10:15 pm, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > > > Looks good, I was wondering if you had GAMEPORT=m and SND_ENS1371=y. > > > > Yes, that would be quite silly. ;) > > > > > > For the curious, what was the first kernel to be released that had > > > > your sysfs stuff in it? > > > > > > 2.6.11-mm and 2.6.12-rc1. Vanilla 2.6.11 does not have it. > > > > I'll go compile 2.6.11 to see if it works there. > > > > > Could you verify that you enabled joystick port on card? What does > > > "cat /sys/module/snd_ens1371/parameters/joystick_port" show? > > > > 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 > > Ok, it looks like setup problem. Try doing: > > modprobe snd-ens1371 joystick_port=1 I already tried that before I mailed the great and almighty source of all information kernely (aka the lkml). Infact, I tried both joystick=1 and joystick_port=1 (some drivers use one, others use the other, and I wasn't sure at the time which es1371 used). It didn't work. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpeuF4c76GIT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Monday 21 March 2005 10:15 pm, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > Looks good, I was wondering if you had GAMEPORT=m and SND_ENS1371=y. Yes, that would be quite silly. ;) > > For the curious, what was the first kernel to be released that had your > > sysfs stuff in it? > > 2.6.11-mm and 2.6.12-rc1. Vanilla 2.6.11 does not have it. I'll go compile 2.6.11 to see if it works there. > Could you verify that you enabled joystick port on card? What does > "cat /sys/module/snd_ens1371/parameters/joystick_port" show? 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpdKpRbu7TU4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Sunday 20 March 2005 10:21 pm, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > I could have broken it during my gameport sysfs integration... Although I > can't see anything that could cause the breakage. Can I please see your > .config? Here. For the curious, what was the first kernel to be released that had your sysfs stuff in it? -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 .config.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data pgpX6dsiibmSV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
On Sunday 20 March 2005 07:39 pm, Andrew Morton wrote: > Patrick McFarland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems that the es1371 driver (which provides its own joystick port > > driver) is broken in at least 2.6.11-mm4. I don't know when it broke, but > > it used to work around in the 2.6.8/9 days (I haven't used the joystick > > in awhile). The hardware and joystick still both work (tested in > > Windows). > > Please define "broken". I assume that audio still comes out, but that the > joystick doesn't work? Yup, audio works fine, this is why I never noticed. Also, the external midi interface also works fine. Digging around, /proc/asound/card0/audiopci says "Joystick enable: off, Joystick port: 0x200". I've also been looking through alsa's cvs for alsa-kernel, and I can't see any changes that might have broken it. Also, I have a usb gamepad that currently works fine. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpUleYD5GNdd.pgp Description: PGP signature
alsa es1371's joystick functionality broken in 2.6.11-mm4
It seems that the es1371 driver (which provides its own joystick port driver) is broken in at least 2.6.11-mm4. I don't know when it broke, but it used to work around in the 2.6.8/9 days (I haven't used the joystick in awhile). The hardware and joystick still both work (tested in Windows). Where do I go from here? -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpfolDb0rtz0.pgp Description: PGP signature
2.6.11-mm4 and 2.6.11.4
I've been running -mm for about a year now, and the whole thing with 2.6.11.x releases coming out quite often is a little confusing. Does 2.6.11-mm4 still apply to 2.6.11 (no bloody 1, 2, 3, or 4), and if so, what does -mm4 contain from the .x versions (ie, does -mm4 contain the updates from 2.6.11.3 or 4 as well?) -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpMqfqKcNfpu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OSS Audio borked between 2.6.6 and 2.6.10
On Saturday 12 March 2005 01:31 pm, Greg Stark wrote: > OSS Audio doesn't work properly for Quake3 in 2.6.10 but it worked in > 2.6.6. In fact I have the same problems in 2.6.9-rc1 so I assume 2.6.9 is > affected as well. This is with the Intel i810 drivers. Why are you not using ALSA? -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpaDSbDHwdcP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Slightly OT: We should move linux related channels off of FreeNode
Today lilo (the FreeNode network owner) has decided to make one step away in a direction opposite of freedom, and banned all Tor users from the FreeNode network. Tor ( http://tor.eff.org ) is an open source anonymous gateway system. Many users who are not in the position to be able to use IRC otherwise (such as those who live in countries who do not believe in free speech) now cannot use Freenode any longer. Do we want to use an IRC network that no longer supports freedom? Our only option is to move to another network, such as irc.noderebellion.net or irc.oftc.net. Channels such as #kernelnewbies have already moved to oftc due to lilo's past actions. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpJ5asJtRHBB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [darcs-users] Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed
On Saturday 19 February 2005 12:53 pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > Wouldn't using the CVS format help an order of magnitude here? With > CVS/SCCS format you can extract all the patchsets that affected a single > file in a extremely efficient manner, memory utilization will be > extremely low too (like in cvsps indeed). You'll only have to lookup the > "global changeset file", and then open the few ,v files that are > affected and extract their patchsets. cvsps does this optimally > already. The only difference is that what cvsps is a "readonly" cache, > while with a real SCM it would be a global file that control all the > changesets in an atomic way. But then that makes darcs do stuff the cvs way, and would make darcs exactly the opposite of how us darcs users want it, imho. If you're worried about darcs needing to open a billion files, nothing stops people from, say, hacking darcs to use a SQL database to store patches in (they just have to code it, and I think I saw a SQL module for haskell around somewhere...) May be I just don't understand the argument of why the CVS file format is anything short of insane, backwards, and outdated. We want each chunk of information to be both independent and have a clear history (ie, what patches does this patch rely on). CVS does not provide this, it is not fine grained enough for what darcs needs. (David Roundy and Co can fill in the technical details of this, I'm not a versioning system expert) In short, we need to move as far away from the CVS way of doing things, because ultimately its the wrong way. This is why I am somewhat dismayed when I hear of projects who move to SVN from CVS... SVN is just CVS with a few flaws fixed, and a few things like atomic commits added. It isn't the next step: it is just a small stepping stone between CVS and the next step. -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpB5eGVGeUue.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [darcs-users] Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed
On Friday 18 February 2005 07:50 am, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2005 at 12:53:09PM +0100, Erik Bågfors wrote: > > RCS/SCCS format doesn't make much sence for a changeset oriented SCM. > > The advantage it will provide is that it'll be compact and a backup will > compress at best too. Small compressed tarballs compress very badly > instead, it wouldn't be even comparable. Once the thing is very compact > it has a better chance to fit in cache, and if it fits in cache > extracting diffs from each file will be very fast. Once it'll be compact > the cost of a changeset will be diminished allowing it to scale better > too. In the case of darcs, RCS/SCCS works exactly opposite of how darcs does. By using it's super magical method, it represents how code is written and how it changes (patch theory at its best). You can clearly see the direction code is going, where it came from, and how it relates to other patches. Sure, you can do this with RCS/SCCS style versioning, but whats the point? It is inefficient, and backwards. > Now it's true new disks are bigger, but they're not much faster, so if > the size of the repository is much larger, it'll be much slower to > checkout if it doesn't fit in cache. And if it's smaller it has better > chances of fitting in cache too. Thats all up to how the versioning system is written. Darcs developers are working in a checkpoint system to allow you to just grab the newest stuff, and automatically grab anything else you need, instead of just grabbing everything. In the case of the darcs linux repo, no one wants to download 600 megs or so of changes. > The thing is, RCS seems a space efficient format for storing patches, > and it's efficient at extracting them too (plus it's textual so it's not > going to get lost info even if something goes wrong). It may not even be space efficient. Code ultimately is just code, and changes ultimately are changes. RCS isn't magical, and its far from it. Infact, the format darcs uses probably stores more code in less space, but don't quote me on that. > The whole linux-2.5 CVS is 500M uncompressed and 75M tar.bz2 compressed. The darcs repo which has the entire history since at least the start of 2.4 (iirc anyways) to *now* is around 600 to 700. > My suggestion is to convert _all_ dozen thousand changesets to arch or > SVN and then compare the size with CVS (also the compressed size is > interesting for backups IMHO). Unfortunately I know nothing about darcs > yet (except it eats quite some memory ;) My suggestion is to convert _all_ dozen thousand changesets to darcs, and then compare the size with CVS. And no, darcs doesn't eat that much memory for the amount of work its doing. (And yes, they are working on that). The only thing you haven't brought up is the whole "omgwtfbbq! BK sucks, lets switch to SVN or Arch!" thing everyone else in the known universe is doing. BK isn't clearly inferior or superior to SVN or Arch or Darcs (and the same goes for SVN vs Arch vs Darcs). (Start Generic BK Thread On LKML Rant) Dear Everyone, I think if Linus is happy with BK, he should stick with it. His opinion ultimately trumps all of ours because he does all the hard maintainership work, and we don't. The only guy that gets to bitch about how much a versioning system sucks is the maintainer of a project (unless its CVS, then all bets are off). Linus has so far indicated that he likes BK, so the kernel hacking community will be stuck using that for awhile. However, that doesn't stop the license kiddies from coming out of the woodwork and mindlessly quoting the bad parts of the BK license (which, yes, its non-free, but at this point, who gives a shit). IMO, yes, a non-free versioning system for the crown jewel of the FLOSS community is a little... odd, but it was LInus's choice, and we now have to respect it/deal with it. Now, I did say above (in this thread) that darcs would be really awesome for kernel hacking, especially since it's inherent support for multiple branches[1] and the ability to send changes from each other around easily would come in handy; however, darcs was not mature at the time of Linus's decision (and many say it is still not mature enough), so if Linus had actually chosen darcs, I (and other people here) would be now flaming him for choosing a versioning system that wasn't mature. Similarly, if he had chosen arch, everyone would have flamed him for choosing a hard to use tool. With svn, he would have met flamage by the hands of it being too much like cvs and not supporting arch/darcs style branch syncing. And if he stayed with cvs, he would have been roasted over an open fire for sticking with an out of date, useless, insane tool. And if he chose anything else that I didn't previously mention, everyone would have donned flame retardant suits and went into the fray over the fact that no one has heard of that versioning system. No matter what choice Linus would have
Re: [BK] upgrade will be needed
On Sunday 13 February 2005 09:08 pm, Larry McVoy wrote: > Something that unintentionally started a flamewar. Well, we just went through another round of 'BK sucks' and 'BK sucks, we need to switch to something else'. Sans the flamewar, are there any options? CVS and SVN are out because they do not support 'off server' branches (arch and darcs do). Darcs would probably be the best choice because its easy to use, and the darcs team almost has a working linux-kernel import script (originally designed to just test darcs with a huge repo, but provides a mostly working linux tree). So, without the flamewar, what is everyone's opinion on this? -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 pgpAuhopI9PLP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [ANNOUNCE] hotplug-ng 001 release
Greg KH wrote: I'd like to announce, yet-another-hotplug based userspace project: linux-ng. This collection of code replaces the existing linux-hotplug package with very tiny, compiled executable programs, instead of the existing bash scripts. It currently provides the following: - a /sbin/hotplug multiplexer. Works identical to the existing bash /sbin/hotplug. - autoload programs for usb, scsi, and pci modules. These programs determine what module needs to be loaded when the kernel emits a hotplug event for these types of devices. This works just like the existing linux-hotplug scripts, with a few exceptions. But why redo this all in .c code? What's wrong with shell scripts? Nothing is wrong with shell scripts, unless you don't want to have an interpreter in your initramfs/initrd and you want to provide /sbin/hotplug and autoload module functionality. Or if you have a huge box that spawns a zillion hotplug events all at once, and you need to be able to handle all of that with the minimum amount of processing time and memory. Wow, thats pretty awesome. Just the other day I said, "Why is hotplug written in sh? Isn't that horribly inefficient way of handling something that needs to be done quickly using the least amount of resources possible?" It seems you were reading my mind. Please, continue this project and encourage distros to switch to it (when it exceeds hotplug in functionality and stability). Ubuntu currently is trying to reduce boot time, and I bet something like this would factor in (even a few seconds helps). -- Patrick "Diablo-D3" McFarland || [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." -- Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
