Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-16 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:50:08 -0400 Theodore Ts'o ty...@mit.edu wrote: The other question where I think you and Linus differ is the belief whether polite messages of the form, it's really rude to break the kernel ABI, I would rather prefer if you wouldn't do that are as effective at

Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 19:50 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 03:43:57PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote: [...] Keep in mind that there are some cultures where even pointing out a technical flaw in code might considered bringing deep shame on the engineer and their company.

Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-16 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: In fact, even in the pull request that's referenced here, Linus, you were polite but firm in your first two responses. When you're perfectly capable of doing that, why spoil it by adding insults? Umm. Notice how the

Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 20:02 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: In fact, even in the pull request that's referenced here, Linus, you were polite but firm in your first two responses. When you're perfectly capable of

Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-16 Thread Linus Torvalds
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:16 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 20:02 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: Umm. Notice how the Joseph I replied to had deleted all the comments he wrote? Sorry, that completely escaped me. That should tell you something. I smacked

Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-16 Thread Darren Hart
On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 21:48 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: Guys, I love my job. The kernel developer community is great. But I suspect that some of you don't necessarily think about the other side. I had slashdot discussing my abusive relationship with my wife and kids thanks to Sarah's

Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [ 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

2013-07-16 Thread Sarah Sharp
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:22:38PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 21:48 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: Guys, I love my job. The kernel developer community is great. But I suspect that some of you don't necessarily think about the other side. I had slashdot discussing my

Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML

2013-07-16 Thread Willy Tarreau
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 08:51:36PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 08:32 +0800, Jeff Liu wrote: Another thing might deviated from the main theme, but I'd like to raise it here because I would like to see what's the proper way for that. For instance, people A posted a

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