[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 11.05.01 in
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> At 1:32 PM -0300 2001-05-11, Ralf Baechle wrote:
> >On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:25AM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
> >> Kai Henningsen wrote:
> >> >What's a lot more important is that the mail standards say that this
> >>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 11.05.01 in
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At 1:32 PM -0300 2001-05-11, Ralf Baechle wrote:
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:25AM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
Kai Henningsen wrote:
What's a lot more important is that the mail
At 11:20 PM -0300 2001-05-11, Ralf Baechle wrote:
>On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 03:49:05PM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>
>It's 998 plus a CR/LF sequence which is 1000 bytes, not exactly an odd
>number. And it's the official successor of RFC 822 which was an official
>STD.
What I meant by
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 03:49:05PM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
> >> >If you want to support wrapping with plain text, investigate
> >> >format=flowed.
> >>
> >> Yes, I did that.
> >>
> > > I'm curious, though: I haven't found the mail standards that forbid
> >> receivers to wrap long
> >>
> > > I'm curious, though: I haven't found the mail standards that forbid
> >> receivers to wrap long lines. Certainly many mail clients do it.
> >> What's the relevant RFC?
> >
> >RFC 2822, 2.1.1.
>
> Thanks. It's not quite a standard yet, but it's true, it does limit
> lines to 998
At 1:32 PM -0300 2001-05-11, Ralf Baechle wrote:
>On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:25AM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>> Kai Henningsen wrote:
>> >What's a lot more important is that the mail standards say that this stuff
>> >should not be interpreted by the receivers as needing wrapping, so
>>
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:25AM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
> >What's a lot more important is that the mail standards say that this stuff
> >should not be interpreted by the receivers as needing wrapping, so
> >irregardless of good or bad design it's just plain illegal.
> >
> >If you
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:25AM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
What's a lot more important is that the mail standards say that this stuff
should not be interpreted by the receivers as needing wrapping, so
irregardless of good or bad design it's just plain illegal.
If you want to
At 1:32 PM -0300 2001-05-11, Ralf Baechle wrote:
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 12:51:25AM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
Kai Henningsen wrote:
What's a lot more important is that the mail standards say that this stuff
should not be interpreted by the receivers as needing wrapping, so
I'm curious, though: I haven't found the mail standards that forbid
receivers to wrap long lines. Certainly many mail clients do it.
What's the relevant RFC?
RFC 2822, 2.1.1.
Thanks. It's not quite a standard yet, but it's true, it does limit
lines to 998 characters. Sort of a
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 03:49:05PM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
If you want to support wrapping with plain text, investigate
format=flowed.
Yes, I did that.
I'm curious, though: I haven't found the mail standards that forbid
receivers to wrap long lines. Certainly many mail
At 11:20 PM -0300 2001-05-11, Ralf Baechle wrote:
On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 03:49:05PM -0700, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
It's 998 plus a CR/LF sequence which is 1000 bytes, not exactly an odd
number. And it's the official successor of RFC 822 which was an official
STD.
What I meant by strange was
> open("/dev/ttyF00/speed=9600,clocal");
>
> is illegal. That may be a nice way to get much of the desired behaviour without
> totally breaking compatibility
>
> Linus has suggested we do something similar in 2.5.x for multiple
> data streams (or forks) in certain filesystems
At 9:32 AM +0200 2001-05-03, Kai Henningsen wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 26.04.01 in
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>
>> At 10:31 PM -0600 2001-04-26, Richard Gooch wrote:
>> >BTW: please fix your mailer to do linewrap at 72 characters. Your
>> >lines are
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 26.04.01 in
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> At 10:31 PM -0600 2001-04-26, Richard Gooch wrote:
> >BTW: please fix your mailer to do linewrap at 72 characters. Your
> >lines are hundreds of characters long, and that's hard to read.
>
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 26.04.01 in
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At 10:31 PM -0600 2001-04-26, Richard Gooch wrote:
BTW: please fix your mailer to do linewrap at 72 characters. Your
lines are hundreds of characters long, and that's hard to read.
Sorry for
At 9:32 AM +0200 2001-05-03, Kai Henningsen wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Lundell) wrote on 26.04.01 in
p05100303b70eadd613b0@[207.213.214.37]:
At 10:31 PM -0600 2001-04-26, Richard Gooch wrote:
BTW: please fix your mailer to do linewrap at 72 characters. Your
lines are hundreds of
open(/dev/ttyF00/speed=9600,clocal);
is illegal. That may be a nice way to get much of the desired behaviour without
totally breaking compatibility
Linus has suggested we do something similar in 2.5.x for multiple
data streams (or forks) in certain filesystems sugh as
> 1. Does POSIX state, that "/" is the directory/entry[1] separator?
> 2. Can a device node be an directory?
>
> If 1. and not 2., there is no way to implement it like that.
Why not. It doesn't say what happens if there is pathname left over when you
hit the device specifically.
tar would
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:32:41PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> Having thought over the issues I plan to maintain a 32bit dev_t kernel with
> conventional mknod behaviour, even if Linus won't. One very interesting item
> that Peter Anvin noted is that its not clear in POSIX that
>
> mknod
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 09:32:41PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
Having thought over the issues I plan to maintain a 32bit dev_t kernel with
conventional mknod behaviour, even if Linus won't. One very interesting item
that Peter Anvin noted is that its not clear in POSIX that
mknod
1. Does POSIX state, that / is the directory/entry[1] separator?
2. Can a device node be an directory?
If 1. and not 2., there is no way to implement it like that.
Why not. It doesn't say what happens if there is pathname left over when you
hit the device specifically.
tar would archive
> I'm wary of this, because Linus has stated that the current "struct
> pci_dev" is really meant to be a generic thing, and it might change to
> "struct dev" (now that we've renamed the old "struct dev" to "struct
> netdev").
It is already being (ab)used this way. Its an isa pnp device in 2.4.*.
Ingo Oeser writes:
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:27:13PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote:
> > Then, vendors provide their own PCI fixups, which turn /dev/bus/pci0
>
> What about /dev/bus/pci/0 or /dev/bus/pci/pci0 instead?
>
> That way we could hook roots of busses (which are "." nodes, like
> if
At 7:27 PM -0600 2001-04-30, Richard Gooch wrote:
>Jonathan Lundell writes:
> > ...
> > Consider, instead of /dev/bus/pci0/dev1/fcn0/bus0/tgt1/lun2/part3
>> something like
>>
>> /dev/bus/pci0d1f0/scsi0t1l2p3
>> or
>> /dev/bus/pci0:d1:f0/scsi0:t1:l2:p3
>
>Nope. Linus hates the idea of
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:27:13PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote:
> Then, vendors provide their own PCI fixups, which turn /dev/bus/pci0
What about /dev/bus/pci/0 or /dev/bus/pci/pci0 instead?
That way we could hook roots of busses (which are "." nodes, like
if they where mounted independently)
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:27:13PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote:
Then, vendors provide their own PCI fixups, which turn /dev/bus/pci0
What about /dev/bus/pci/0 or /dev/bus/pci/pci0 instead?
That way we could hook roots of busses (which are . nodes, like
if they where mounted independently)
At 7:27 PM -0600 2001-04-30, Richard Gooch wrote:
Jonathan Lundell writes:
...
Consider, instead of /dev/bus/pci0/dev1/fcn0/bus0/tgt1/lun2/part3
something like
/dev/bus/pci0d1f0/scsi0t1l2p3
or
/dev/bus/pci0:d1:f0/scsi0:t1:l2:p3
Nope. Linus hates the idea of compressed names. He
Ingo Oeser writes:
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:27:13PM -0600, Richard Gooch wrote:
Then, vendors provide their own PCI fixups, which turn /dev/bus/pci0
What about /dev/bus/pci/0 or /dev/bus/pci/pci0 instead?
That way we could hook roots of busses (which are . nodes, like
if they where
I'm wary of this, because Linus has stated that the current struct
pci_dev is really meant to be a generic thing, and it might change to
struct dev (now that we've renamed the old struct dev to struct
netdev).
It is already being (ab)used this way. Its an isa pnp device in 2.4.*. Its
also a
Jonathan Lundell writes:
> On the subject of the Subject, Jeff Garzik recently (21 March)
> suggested adding geographic information to the ethtool interface,
> pci_dev->slot_name in the case of a PCI-based interface. There's
> something to be said for having a uniform method of identifying the
Jonathan Lundell writes:
On the subject of the Subject, Jeff Garzik recently (21 March)
suggested adding geographic information to the ethtool interface,
pci_dev-slot_name in the case of a PCI-based interface. There's
something to be said for having a uniform method of identifying the
At 10:31 PM -0600 2001-04-26, Richard Gooch wrote:
>BTW: please fix your mailer to do linewrap at 72 characters. Your
>lines are hundreds of characters long, and that's hard to read.
Sorry for the inconvenience. There are a lot of reasons why I believe
it's properly a display function to wrap
Jonathan Lundell writes:
> At 3:59 PM -0600 4/24/01, Richard Gooch wrote:
> >The plan I have (which I hope to get started on soon, now that I'm
> >back from travels), is to change /dev/scsi/host# from a directory into
> >a symbolic link to a directory called: /dev/bus/pci0/slot1/function0.
>
Jonathan Lundell writes:
At 3:59 PM -0600 4/24/01, Richard Gooch wrote:
The plan I have (which I hope to get started on soon, now that I'm
back from travels), is to change /dev/scsi/host# from a directory into
a symbolic link to a directory called: /dev/bus/pci0/slot1/function0.
Thus, to
At 3:59 PM -0600 4/24/01, Richard Gooch wrote:
>The plan I have (which I hope to get started on soon, now that I'm
>back from travels), is to change /dev/scsi/host# from a directory into
>a symbolic link to a directory called: /dev/bus/pci0/slot1/function0.
>Thus, to access a partition via
Matt Domsch writes:
> Thanks everyone for your input again. I've made the changes suggested, and
> would appreciate this being applied to Linus' and Alan's trees. This is
> necessary for solving the "what disk does BIOS think is my boot disk"
> problem on IA-64, and I hope to extend it to IA-32
Thanks everyone for your input again. I've made the changes suggested, and
would appreciate this being applied to Linus' and Alan's trees. This is
necessary for solving the "what disk does BIOS think is my boot disk"
problem on IA-64, and I hope to extend it to IA-32 when BIOSs permit.
Jeff
Thanks everyone for your input again. I've made the changes suggested, and
would appreciate this being applied to Linus' and Alan's trees. This is
necessary for solving the what disk does BIOS think is my boot disk
problem on IA-64, and I hope to extend it to IA-32 when BIOSs permit.
Jeff
At 3:59 PM -0600 4/24/01, Richard Gooch wrote:
The plan I have (which I hope to get started on soon, now that I'm
back from travels), is to change /dev/scsi/host# from a directory into
a symbolic link to a directory called: /dev/bus/pci0/slot1/function0.
Thus, to access a partition via location,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> Doug suggested looking at extending scsimon. This is a fine idea, and I've
> made proposed changes available at http://domsch.com/linux/scsi/. (Doug may
> want to clean this up). However, this, like my earlier changes to
> /proc/scsi/scsi, doesn't
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > PCI ids can be derived from bus/slot/function.
>
> Even better. I'll remove the extraneous fields then, and only return those.
>
> typedef struct scsi_pci {
> unsigned char bus_number;
> unsigned intdevfn; /* encoded device &
> PCI ids can be derived from bus/slot/function.
Even better. I'll remove the extraneous fields then, and only return those.
typedef struct scsi_pci {
unsigned char bus_number;
unsigned intdevfn; /* encoded device & function index
*/
} Scsi_Pci;
Thanks,
Matt
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've proposed a SCSI ioctl that returns PCI bus, slot, function, primary and
> subsystem vendor and device IDs.
PCI ids can be derived from bus/slot/function.
--
Jeff Garzik | The difference between America and England is that
Building 1024| the English
Thanks everyone for your input.
Doug Gilbert said:
> SANE (and probably some other applications) parses the
> output of 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' so any change to its
> format may trip SANE up. How about another entry in
> the /proc/scsi directory that has a more parsable format
> (e.g. xml :-) ).
Thanks everyone for your input.
Doug Gilbert said:
SANE (and probably some other applications) parses the
output of 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' so any change to its
format may trip SANE up. How about another entry in
the /proc/scsi directory that has a more parsable format
(e.g. xml :-) ).
This
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've proposed a SCSI ioctl that returns PCI bus, slot, function, primary and
subsystem vendor and device IDs.
PCI ids can be derived from bus/slot/function.
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Jeff Garzik | The difference between America and England is that
Building 1024| the English think
PCI ids can be derived from bus/slot/function.
Even better. I'll remove the extraneous fields then, and only return those.
typedef struct scsi_pci {
unsigned char bus_number;
unsigned intdevfn; /* encoded device function index
*/
} Scsi_Pci;
Thanks,
Matt
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PCI ids can be derived from bus/slot/function.
Even better. I'll remove the extraneous fields then, and only return those.
typedef struct scsi_pci {
unsigned char bus_number;
unsigned intdevfn; /* encoded device function index
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Doug suggested looking at extending scsimon. This is a fine idea, and I've
made proposed changes available at http://domsch.com/linux/scsi/. (Doug may
want to clean this up). However, this, like my earlier changes to
/proc/scsi/scsi, doesn't actually
Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > Also ISA adapters are not the only non-PCI adapters,
> > there are the growing band of pseudo adapters that
> > may or may not have a PCI bus at the bottom of some
> > other protocol stack.
>
> An ioctl might be better. We already have an ioctl for querying the lun
>
At 4:34 PM -0500 2001-04-13, Matt Domsch wrote:
>What I'd like to do is add the PCI location of the SCSI controller to
>the information printed in /proc/scsi/scsi, as follows:
>
>Attached devices:
>Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 PCI bus: 1 slot: 6 fn: 0
> Vendor: NEC Model: CD-ROM
At 4:34 PM -0500 2001-04-13, Matt Domsch wrote:
What I'd like to do is add the PCI location of the SCSI controller to
the information printed in /proc/scsi/scsi, as follows:
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 PCI bus: 1 slot: 6 fn: 0
Vendor: NEC Model: CD-ROM
Alan Cox wrote:
Also ISA adapters are not the only non-PCI adapters,
there are the growing band of pseudo adapters that
may or may not have a PCI bus at the bottom of some
other protocol stack.
An ioctl might be better. We already have an ioctl for querying the lun
information for a
> An ioctl might be better. We already have an ioctl for
> querying the lun
> information for a disk. We could also return the bus
> information for its
> controller(s) [remember multipathing]
I provide such, and a test program at http://domsch.com/linux/scsi for
trying it out.
Thanks,
Matt
> Also ISA adapters are not the only non-PCI adapters,
> there are the growing band of pseudo adapters that
> may or may not have a PCI bus at the bottom of some
> other protocol stack.
An ioctl might be better. We already have an ioctl for querying the lun
information for a disk. We could also
Matt Domsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm working on an IA-64 user-space application to add a Linux entry to
> the IA-64 boot manager. To do so, I've got to uniquely identify a
> disk by it's controller PCI address, SCSI channel,
> ID, and LUN. Essentially, I need to tie /dev/sda to an EFI
I'm working on an IA-64 user-space application to add a Linux entry to
the IA-64 boot manager. To do so, I've got to uniquely identify a
disk by it's controller PCI address, SCSI channel,
ID, and LUN. Essentially, I need to tie /dev/sda to an EFI device. An
equivalent problem (with similar
I'm working on an IA-64 user-space application to add a Linux entry to
the IA-64 boot manager. To do so, I've got to uniquely identify a
disk by it's controller PCI address, SCSI channel,
ID, and LUN. Essentially, I need to tie /dev/sda to an EFI device. An
equivalent problem (with similar
Matt Domsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working on an IA-64 user-space application to add a Linux entry to
the IA-64 boot manager. To do so, I've got to uniquely identify a
disk by it's controller PCI address, SCSI channel,
ID, and LUN. Essentially, I need to tie /dev/sda to an EFI device.
Also ISA adapters are not the only non-PCI adapters,
there are the growing band of pseudo adapters that
may or may not have a PCI bus at the bottom of some
other protocol stack.
An ioctl might be better. We already have an ioctl for querying the lun
information for a disk. We could also
An ioctl might be better. We already have an ioctl for
querying the lun
information for a disk. We could also return the bus
information for its
controller(s) [remember multipathing]
I provide such, and a test program at http://domsch.com/linux/scsi for
trying it out.
Thanks,
Matt
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