Re: APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-18 Thread Alex Deucher



Pavel Machek wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> > anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
> > card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
> > days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed.
> > the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.
> 
> So turn it off by unplugging AC cord. If it comes up *without* AC plugged
> in Welll... Call GhostBusters.
> Pavel

True, but I'd like to have work without having to unplug the power
everyday :)


> PS: I is possible that machine comes up after powerfail. This might be
> your proble. Without 3pin cable installed, it really should not come up
> itself.

Actually apparently it is possible with PCI 2.2 compliant cards and
motherboards.  The 3 pin wire is for backwards compatiblity with old
cards.


> --
> Philips Velo 1: 1"x4"x8", 300gram, 60, 12MB, 40bogomips, linux, mutt,
> details at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/velo/index.html.


Thanks for you input,

Alex
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Re: APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-18 Thread Alex Deucher



Pavel Machek wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
  anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
  card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
  days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed.
  the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.
 
 So turn it off by unplugging AC cord. If it comes up *without* AC plugged
 in Welll... Call GhostBusters.
 Pavel

True, but I'd like to have work without having to unplug the power
everyday :)


 PS: I is possible that machine comes up after powerfail. This might be
 your proble. Without 3pin cable installed, it really should not come up
 itself.

Actually apparently it is possible with PCI 2.2 compliant cards and
motherboards.  The 3 pin wire is for backwards compatiblity with old
cards.


 --
 Philips Velo 1: 1x4x8, 300gram, 60, 12MB, 40bogomips, linux, mutt,
 details at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/velo/index.html.


Thanks for you input,

Alex
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Re: APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-16 Thread Pavel Machek

Hi!

> anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
> card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
> days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed. 
> the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.  

So turn it off by unplugging AC cord. If it comes up *without* AC plugged
in Welll... Call GhostBusters.
Pavel
PS: I is possible that machine comes up after powerfail. This might be
your proble. Without 3pin cable installed, it really should not come up
itself.
-- 
Philips Velo 1: 1"x4"x8", 300gram, 60, 12MB, 40bogomips, linux, mutt,
details at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/velo/index.html.

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Re: APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-16 Thread Pavel Machek

Hi!

 anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
 card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
 days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed. 
 the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.  

So turn it off by unplugging AC cord. If it comes up *without* AC plugged
in Welll... Call GhostBusters.
Pavel
PS: I is possible that machine comes up after powerfail. This might be
your proble. Without 3pin cable installed, it really should not come up
itself.
-- 
Philips Velo 1: 1x4x8, 300gram, 60, 12MB, 40bogomips, linux, mutt,
details at http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/velo/index.html.

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Re: [Acpi] APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-15 Thread Alex Deucher

Thanks, I'll try to take a look at the source if I get a chance next
week.  Any tulip developers out there know off hand if this is enabled?
Or can be disabled?

Thanks,

Alex

David Christensen wrote:
> 
> Alex,
> 
> Looking at the back of a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 manual I happen to have,
> they describe two different remote wake-up events, Magic Packet and Link
> Change.  The first one is pretty obvious and is probably not related to
> your problems, but the second one may be.  The manual states ""Link Change
> is a remote wake up event that is triggered by any change in the EtherFast
> card's link state."  Plugging in a LAN cable is the example given that
> would turn the system on.  You may have to look at the driver source to see
> if this is enabled by default or you may have to modify the driver to
> disable this "feature" on the card.
> 
> Regarding the WOL cable, this was used for older motherboards before PCI
> 2.2,
> though it is still present on newer motherboards to support older PCI cards.
> A PCI 2.2 compliant motherboard and NIC use the #PME signal on the PCI bus
> to signal the wake.
> 
> Dave
> 
> >
> > I have an athlon system with a iwill kk266 motherboard (via
> > kt133A).  I
> > have a linksys 10/100 PCI ethernet card with wake on lan
> > capabilities.
> > Anyway, when I shut the PC down it turns off, but refuses to
> > stay off.
> > Within a minute or two, it turns itself on again.  If i run over and
> > turn it off by hitting the power putton, it turns off, but then comes
> > back on again at a later somewaht arbitrary time (1 minute to several
> > hours later).  I originally got the WOL card so I could
> > remotely boot my
> > PC, but at this point it has turned out to be more trouble than it's
> > worth.  I tried to disable WOL inthe BIOS, but that didn't change
> > anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
> > card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
> > days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed.
> > the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.
> >
> > I suspect the problem has something to do with WOL vs. resume on LAN.
> > the system should only turn on when it recieves a magic packet, but it
> > seems that any packet may cause it to boot (or resume, but since it is
> > in the "off" state, boot).  I've only been using APM, but perhaps acpi
> > is required for this to work properly.  As far as why it does
> > this when
> > the 3 pin WOL connector was not used, I'm not sure, maybe something to
> > do with PCI 2.2.
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Re: [Acpi] APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-15 Thread Alex Deucher

Thanks, I'll try to take a look at the source if I get a chance next
week.  Any tulip developers out there know off hand if this is enabled?
Or can be disabled?

Thanks,

Alex

David Christensen wrote:
 
 Alex,
 
 Looking at the back of a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 manual I happen to have,
 they describe two different remote wake-up events, Magic Packet and Link
 Change.  The first one is pretty obvious and is probably not related to
 your problems, but the second one may be.  The manual states Link Change
 is a remote wake up event that is triggered by any change in the EtherFast
 card's link state.  Plugging in a LAN cable is the example given that
 would turn the system on.  You may have to look at the driver source to see
 if this is enabled by default or you may have to modify the driver to
 disable this feature on the card.
 
 Regarding the WOL cable, this was used for older motherboards before PCI
 2.2,
 though it is still present on newer motherboards to support older PCI cards.
 A PCI 2.2 compliant motherboard and NIC use the #PME signal on the PCI bus
 to signal the wake.
 
 Dave
 
 
  I have an athlon system with a iwill kk266 motherboard (via
  kt133A).  I
  have a linksys 10/100 PCI ethernet card with wake on lan
  capabilities.
  Anyway, when I shut the PC down it turns off, but refuses to
  stay off.
  Within a minute or two, it turns itself on again.  If i run over and
  turn it off by hitting the power putton, it turns off, but then comes
  back on again at a later somewaht arbitrary time (1 minute to several
  hours later).  I originally got the WOL card so I could
  remotely boot my
  PC, but at this point it has turned out to be more trouble than it's
  worth.  I tried to disable WOL inthe BIOS, but that didn't change
  anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
  card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
  days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed.
  the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.
 
  I suspect the problem has something to do with WOL vs. resume on LAN.
  the system should only turn on when it recieves a magic packet, but it
  seems that any packet may cause it to boot (or resume, but since it is
  in the off state, boot).  I've only been using APM, but perhaps acpi
  is required for this to work properly.  As far as why it does
  this when
  the 3 pin WOL connector was not used, I'm not sure, maybe something to
  do with PCI 2.2.
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RE: [Acpi] APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-14 Thread David Christensen

Alex,

Looking at the back of a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 manual I happen to have,
they describe two different remote wake-up events, Magic Packet and Link 
Change.  The first one is pretty obvious and is probably not related to 
your problems, but the second one may be.  The manual states ""Link Change
is a remote wake up event that is triggered by any change in the EtherFast
card's link state."  Plugging in a LAN cable is the example given that
would turn the system on.  You may have to look at the driver source to see
if this is enabled by default or you may have to modify the driver to 
disable this "feature" on the card.

Regarding the WOL cable, this was used for older motherboards before PCI
2.2,
though it is still present on newer motherboards to support older PCI cards.
A PCI 2.2 compliant motherboard and NIC use the #PME signal on the PCI bus
to signal the wake.

Dave

> 
> I have an athlon system with a iwill kk266 motherboard (via 
> kt133A).  I
> have a linksys 10/100 PCI ethernet card with wake on lan 
> capabilities. 
> Anyway, when I shut the PC down it turns off, but refuses to 
> stay off. 
> Within a minute or two, it turns itself on again.  If i run over and
> turn it off by hitting the power putton, it turns off, but then comes
> back on again at a later somewaht arbitrary time (1 minute to several
> hours later).  I originally got the WOL card so I could 
> remotely boot my
> PC, but at this point it has turned out to be more trouble than it's
> worth.  I tried to disable WOL inthe BIOS, but that didn't change
> anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
> card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
> days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed. 
> the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.  
> 
> I suspect the problem has something to do with WOL vs. resume on LAN. 
> the system should only turn on when it recieves a magic packet, but it
> seems that any packet may cause it to boot (or resume, but since it is
> in the "off" state, boot).  I've only been using APM, but perhaps acpi
> is required for this to work properly.  As far as why it does 
> this when
> the 3 pin WOL connector was not used, I'm not sure, maybe something to
> do with PCI 2.2.
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APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-14 Thread Alex Deucher

I have an athlon system with a iwill kk266 motherboard (via kt133A).  I
have a linksys 10/100 PCI ethernet card with wake on lan capabilities. 
Anyway, when I shut the PC down it turns off, but refuses to stay off. 
Within a minute or two, it turns itself on again.  If i run over and
turn it off by hitting the power putton, it turns off, but then comes
back on again at a later somewaht arbitrary time (1 minute to several
hours later).  I originally got the WOL card so I could remotely boot my
PC, but at this point it has turned out to be more trouble than it's
worth.  I tried to disable WOL inthe BIOS, but that didn't change
anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed. 
the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.  

I suspect the problem has something to do with WOL vs. resume on LAN. 
the system should only turn on when it recieves a magic packet, but it
seems that any packet may cause it to boot (or resume, but since it is
in the "off" state, boot).  I've only been using APM, but perhaps acpi
is required for this to work properly.  As far as why it does this when
the 3 pin WOL connector was not used, I'm not sure, maybe something to
do with PCI 2.2.

Any thoughts?  This is driving me nuts.

Alex

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APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-14 Thread Alex Deucher

I have an athlon system with a iwill kk266 motherboard (via kt133A).  I
have a linksys 10/100 PCI ethernet card with wake on lan capabilities. 
Anyway, when I shut the PC down it turns off, but refuses to stay off. 
Within a minute or two, it turns itself on again.  If i run over and
turn it off by hitting the power putton, it turns off, but then comes
back on again at a later somewaht arbitrary time (1 minute to several
hours later).  I originally got the WOL card so I could remotely boot my
PC, but at this point it has turned out to be more trouble than it's
worth.  I tried to disable WOL inthe BIOS, but that didn't change
anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed. 
the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.  

I suspect the problem has something to do with WOL vs. resume on LAN. 
the system should only turn on when it recieves a magic packet, but it
seems that any packet may cause it to boot (or resume, but since it is
in the off state, boot).  I've only been using APM, but perhaps acpi
is required for this to work properly.  As far as why it does this when
the 3 pin WOL connector was not used, I'm not sure, maybe something to
do with PCI 2.2.

Any thoughts?  This is driving me nuts.

Alex

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RE: [Acpi] APM, ACPI, and Wake on LAN - the bane of my existance

2001-06-14 Thread David Christensen

Alex,

Looking at the back of a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 manual I happen to have,
they describe two different remote wake-up events, Magic Packet and Link 
Change.  The first one is pretty obvious and is probably not related to 
your problems, but the second one may be.  The manual states Link Change
is a remote wake up event that is triggered by any change in the EtherFast
card's link state.  Plugging in a LAN cable is the example given that
would turn the system on.  You may have to look at the driver source to see
if this is enabled by default or you may have to modify the driver to 
disable this feature on the card.

Regarding the WOL cable, this was used for older motherboards before PCI
2.2,
though it is still present on newer motherboards to support older PCI cards.
A PCI 2.2 compliant motherboard and NIC use the #PME signal on the PCI bus
to signal the wake.

Dave

 
 I have an athlon system with a iwill kk266 motherboard (via 
 kt133A).  I
 have a linksys 10/100 PCI ethernet card with wake on lan 
 capabilities. 
 Anyway, when I shut the PC down it turns off, but refuses to 
 stay off. 
 Within a minute or two, it turns itself on again.  If i run over and
 turn it off by hitting the power putton, it turns off, but then comes
 back on again at a later somewaht arbitrary time (1 minute to several
 hours later).  I originally got the WOL card so I could 
 remotely boot my
 PC, but at this point it has turned out to be more trouble than it's
 worth.  I tried to disable WOL inthe BIOS, but that didn't change
 anything.  So I removed the three pin cross connect that connects the
 card to the WOL header on the motherboard.  That fixed it for a few
 days, but now it's doing it again, even without the cable installed. 
 the only fix is to unplug the ethernet cable when I turn it off.  
 
 I suspect the problem has something to do with WOL vs. resume on LAN. 
 the system should only turn on when it recieves a magic packet, but it
 seems that any packet may cause it to boot (or resume, but since it is
 in the off state, boot).  I've only been using APM, but perhaps acpi
 is required for this to work properly.  As far as why it does 
 this when
 the 3 pin WOL connector was not used, I'm not sure, maybe something to
 do with PCI 2.2.
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