Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 04:06:53PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 21:38 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:35:47PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > > > I agree the non-legacy (CardBus and beyond) ones can be built in. I > > > thought the legacy 8 and 16 bit type I and II still had to be modular > > > because they still need setting up. > > > > nope. While I don't have a pcmcia scsi card my 16 bit pcmcia wireless > > cards work perfectly fine without any previous setup. > > OK ... I had the opposite experience ... A ZoomAir 802.11b card wasn't > working because I'd accidentally config'd it non-modular. However, if > Dominik confirms it's all supposed to work non-modular. PCMCIA card drivers should (famous last words) work just fine if built as modules. They may not be bound to devices, depending on the arch and system, until userspace tools have run, but this is independent of modular or built-in drivers. So a full ACK on this. Thanks, Dominik - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 04:06:53PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 21:38 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:35:47PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: I agree the non-legacy (CardBus and beyond) ones can be built in. I thought the legacy 8 and 16 bit type I and II still had to be modular because they still need setting up. nope. While I don't have a pcmcia scsi card my 16 bit pcmcia wireless cards work perfectly fine without any previous setup. OK ... I had the opposite experience ... A ZoomAir 802.11b card wasn't working because I'd accidentally config'd it non-modular. However, if Dominik confirms it's all supposed to work non-modular. PCMCIA card drivers should (famous last words) work just fine if built as modules. They may not be bound to devices, depending on the arch and system, until userspace tools have run, but this is independent of modular or built-in drivers. So a full ACK on this. Thanks, Dominik - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 21:38 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:35:47PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > > I agree the non-legacy (CardBus and beyond) ones can be built in. I > > thought the legacy 8 and 16 bit type I and II still had to be modular > > because they still need setting up. > > nope. While I don't have a pcmcia scsi card my 16 bit pcmcia wireless > cards work perfectly fine without any previous setup. OK ... I had the opposite experience ... A ZoomAir 802.11b card wasn't working because I'd accidentally config'd it non-modular. However, if Dominik confirms it's all supposed to work non-modular, I'm happy to conclude my experience was pilot error. James - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:35:47PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > I agree the non-legacy (CardBus and beyond) ones can be built in. I > thought the legacy 8 and 16 bit type I and II still had to be modular > because they still need setting up. nope. While I don't have a pcmcia scsi card my 16 bit pcmcia wireless cards work perfectly fine without any previous setup. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 21:02 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > > it would seem to make no sense that the "depends on" clause for this > > > option includes "m", forcing this (and all other four entries in that > > > Kconfig file, by the way) to be built as modules, while the help text > > > for all five entries suggests you can select "y". > > In the old days pcmcia drivers had to be modular because pcmcia required > a lot of userspace setup. It's not needed anymore these days and the > dependencies can go. I agree the non-legacy (CardBus and beyond) ones can be built in. I thought the legacy 8 and 16 bit type I and II still had to be modular because they still need setting up. James - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
> > it would seem to make no sense that the "depends on" clause for this > > option includes "m", forcing this (and all other four entries in that > > Kconfig file, by the way) to be built as modules, while the help text > > for all five entries suggests you can select "y". In the old days pcmcia drivers had to be modular because pcmcia required a lot of userspace setup. It's not needed anymore these days and the dependencies can go. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
Robert P. J. Day wrote at LKML: > drivers/scsi/pcmcia/Kconfig: > ... > config PCMCIA_AHA152X > tristate "Adaptec AHA152X PCMCIA support" > depends on m && !64BIT > select SCSI_SPI_ATTRS > help > Say Y here if you intend to attach this type of PCMCIA SCSI host > adapter to your computer. > > To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the > module will be called aha152x_cs. > ... > > it would seem to make no sense that the "depends on" clause for this > option includes "m", forcing this (and all other four entries in that > Kconfig file, by the way) to be built as modules, while the help text > for all five entries suggests you can select "y". > > as jack nicholson would say, something's gotta give. LSML a.k.a. linux-scsi may know what's gotta give. -- Stefan Richter -=-=-=== --== ==-=- http://arcgraph.de/sr/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
Robert P. J. Day wrote at LKML: drivers/scsi/pcmcia/Kconfig: ... config PCMCIA_AHA152X tristate Adaptec AHA152X PCMCIA support depends on m !64BIT select SCSI_SPI_ATTRS help Say Y here if you intend to attach this type of PCMCIA SCSI host adapter to your computer. To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be called aha152x_cs. ... it would seem to make no sense that the depends on clause for this option includes m, forcing this (and all other four entries in that Kconfig file, by the way) to be built as modules, while the help text for all five entries suggests you can select y. as jack nicholson would say, something's gotta give. LSML a.k.a. linux-scsi may know what's gotta give. -- Stefan Richter -=-=-=== --== ==-=- http://arcgraph.de/sr/ - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
it would seem to make no sense that the depends on clause for this option includes m, forcing this (and all other four entries in that Kconfig file, by the way) to be built as modules, while the help text for all five entries suggests you can select y. In the old days pcmcia drivers had to be modular because pcmcia required a lot of userspace setup. It's not needed anymore these days and the dependencies can go. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 21:02 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: it would seem to make no sense that the depends on clause for this option includes m, forcing this (and all other four entries in that Kconfig file, by the way) to be built as modules, while the help text for all five entries suggests you can select y. In the old days pcmcia drivers had to be modular because pcmcia required a lot of userspace setup. It's not needed anymore these days and the dependencies can go. I agree the non-legacy (CardBus and beyond) ones can be built in. I thought the legacy 8 and 16 bit type I and II still had to be modular because they still need setting up. James - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:35:47PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: I agree the non-legacy (CardBus and beyond) ones can be built in. I thought the legacy 8 and 16 bit type I and II still had to be modular because they still need setting up. nope. While I don't have a pcmcia scsi card my 16 bit pcmcia wireless cards work perfectly fine without any previous setup. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
Re: some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
On Mon, 2007-03-26 at 21:38 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 03:35:47PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: I agree the non-legacy (CardBus and beyond) ones can be built in. I thought the legacy 8 and 16 bit type I and II still had to be modular because they still need setting up. nope. While I don't have a pcmcia scsi card my 16 bit pcmcia wireless cards work perfectly fine without any previous setup. OK ... I had the opposite experience ... A ZoomAir 802.11b card wasn't working because I'd accidentally config'd it non-modular. However, if Dominik confirms it's all supposed to work non-modular, I'm happy to conclude my experience was pilot error. James - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
drivers/scsi/pcmcia/Kconfig: ... config PCMCIA_AHA152X tristate "Adaptec AHA152X PCMCIA support" depends on m && !64BIT select SCSI_SPI_ATTRS help Say Y here if you intend to attach this type of PCMCIA SCSI host adapter to your computer. To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be called aha152x_cs. ... it would seem to make no sense that the "depends on" clause for this option includes "m", forcing this (and all other four entries in that Kconfig file, by the way) to be built as modules, while the help text for all five entries suggests you can select "y". as jack nicholson would say, something's gotta give. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
some PCMCIA SCSI drivers can be built *only* as modules
drivers/scsi/pcmcia/Kconfig: ... config PCMCIA_AHA152X tristate Adaptec AHA152X PCMCIA support depends on m !64BIT select SCSI_SPI_ATTRS help Say Y here if you intend to attach this type of PCMCIA SCSI host adapter to your computer. To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the module will be called aha152x_cs. ... it would seem to make no sense that the depends on clause for this option includes m, forcing this (and all other four entries in that Kconfig file, by the way) to be built as modules, while the help text for all five entries suggests you can select y. as jack nicholson would say, something's gotta give. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://fsdev.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
