Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-28 Thread Matt Mackall
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 06:12:19PM -0700, Matt Ranon wrote: > However, our reasons for Kcli are: > 1) Our devices ship with no user space, and we want the development > environment to be as close as possible to the final product. I hope that means your devices have full source code available

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-28 Thread Matt Mackall
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 06:12:19PM -0700, Matt Ranon wrote: However, our reasons for Kcli are: 1) Our devices ship with no user space, and we want the development environment to be as close as possible to the final product. I hope that means your devices have full source code available under

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-24 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 02:36:48PM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote: > Satyam Sharma schrieb: > > You might have your reasons for being so anxious to avoid any > > userspace at all, but quoting famous words, continuing to maintain > > Kcli out-of-tree could soon turn out to be an act for > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-24 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Satyam Sharma schrieb: > You might have your reasons for being so anxious to avoid any > userspace at all, but quoting famous words, continuing to maintain > Kcli out-of-tree could soon turn out to be an act for > self-flagellation for you :-) OTOH, considering certain recent comments on this

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-24 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Satyam Sharma schrieb: You might have your reasons for being so anxious to avoid any userspace at all, but quoting famous words, continuing to maintain Kcli out-of-tree could soon turn out to be an act for self-flagellation for you :-) OTOH, considering certain recent comments on this

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-24 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 02:36:48PM +0200, Tilman Schmidt wrote: Satyam Sharma schrieb: You might have your reasons for being so anxious to avoid any userspace at all, but quoting famous words, continuing to maintain Kcli out-of-tree could soon turn out to be an act for self-flagellation

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread Satyam Sharma
Hi Matt, On 4/24/07, Matt Ranon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The obvious question is: what's _wrong_ with doing all this in some > cut-down userspace environment like busybox? Why is this stuff better? > > Obviously some embedded developers have considered that option and > have rejected it.

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread Matt Ranon
> (text reformatted to less than 80 cols. Please, we'll get along a lot > better if you don't send 1000-column emails) Sorry. I am afraid we are from a different background, and so very poorly versed in these things. My email client does not seem to have an option to tell it to format in 80

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Matt Ranon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (text reformatted to less than 80 cols. Please, we'll get along a lot better if you don't send 1000-column emails) > The Jem team is pleased to announce the release of Kcli, an in-kernel > command line interface.

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Matt Ranon wrote: The Jem team is pleased to announce the release of Kcli, an in-kernel command line interface. Kcli is intended for a special class of embedded Linux applications. The Linux kernel has become the defacto standard OS for embedded applications. This means that Linux is getting bent

[ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread Matt Ranon
The Jem team is pleased to announce the release of Kcli, an in-kernel command line interface. Kcli is intended for a special class of embedded Linux applications. The Linux kernel has become the defacto standard OS for embedded applications. This means that Linux is getting bent in some ways

[ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread Matt Ranon
The Jem team is pleased to announce the release of Kcli, an in-kernel command line interface. Kcli is intended for a special class of embedded Linux applications. The Linux kernel has become the defacto standard OS for embedded applications. This means that Linux is getting bent in some ways

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread H. Peter Anvin
Matt Ranon wrote: The Jem team is pleased to announce the release of Kcli, an in-kernel command line interface. Kcli is intended for a special class of embedded Linux applications. The Linux kernel has become the defacto standard OS for embedded applications. This means that Linux is getting bent

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread Andrew Morton
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Matt Ranon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (text reformatted to less than 80 cols. Please, we'll get along a lot better if you don't send 1000-column emails) The Jem team is pleased to announce the release of Kcli, an in-kernel command line interface. Kcli

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread Matt Ranon
(text reformatted to less than 80 cols. Please, we'll get along a lot better if you don't send 1000-column emails) Sorry. I am afraid we are from a different background, and so very poorly versed in these things. My email client does not seem to have an option to tell it to format in 80 cols.

Re: [ANNOUNCE][PATCH] Kcli - Kernel command line interface.

2007-04-23 Thread Satyam Sharma
Hi Matt, On 4/24/07, Matt Ranon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The obvious question is: what's _wrong_ with doing all this in some cut-down userspace environment like busybox? Why is this stuff better? Obviously some embedded developers have considered that option and have rejected it. But we