Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-11 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 16:39 -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: > What do you mean "adds another incompatibility" ? > > That users will have to switch to dmraid when upgrading to v2.6.x ? which is a rather disruptive and incompatible change. device names change etc etc. > SATA is not the same

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-11 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Thu, 2005-02-10 at 16:39 -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote: What do you mean adds another incompatibility ? That users will have to switch to dmraid when upgrading to v2.6.x ? which is a rather disruptive and incompatible change. device names change etc etc. SATA is not the same case as

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
Hi Bart, On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 12:28:04AM +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > > [ This mail is just to explain why I don't like iswraid, > > > I don't care if it gets merged that much... ] > > > > > > another BTW: this driver adds another incompatibility between > > > 2.4.x and

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:39:34 -0200, Marcelo Tosatti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 11:04:09PM +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:05:13 +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:35:23 -0500,

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 11:04:09PM +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:05:13 +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:35:23 -0500, Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > > > On

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:05:13 +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:35:23 -0500, Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > > On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:35:23 -0500, Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >> > I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:35:23 -0500, Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:05:13 +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:35:23 -0500, Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arjan van de Ven

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 11:04:09PM +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:05:13 +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:35:23 -0500, Bill Davidsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Sun, 06 Feb

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:39:34 -0200, Marcelo Tosatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2005 at 11:04:09PM +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:05:13 +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:35:23 -0500, Bill Davidsen

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-10 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
Hi Bart, On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 12:28:04AM +0100, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: [ This mail is just to explain why I don't like iswraid, I don't care if it gets merged that much... ] another BTW: this driver adds another incompatibility between 2.4.x and 2.6.x. What do

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-07 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 03:49:33PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise > > user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. > > the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support > patches. And for new DRM

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-07 Thread Martins Krikis
Martins Krikis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do realize that Intel should have asked a long time ago for it > to be considered for acceptance (I did ask back in October for > 2.4.28). Sorry about all the noise, but I just remembered some other important aspects that played a role here. Intel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-07 Thread Martins Krikis
--- Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since > otherwise > > user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. > > the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support > patches. And for new DRM (since new X

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-07 Thread Martins Krikis
--- Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support patches. And for new DRM (since new X may need it)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-07 Thread Martins Krikis
Martins Krikis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do realize that Intel should have asked a long time ago for it to be considered for acceptance (I did ask back in October for 2.4.28). Sorry about all the noise, but I just remembered some other important aspects that played a role here. Intel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-07 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 03:49:33PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support patches. And for new DRM (since

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 11:09:37AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > I'm talking about being able to access data, or not. And your point is? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Jeff Garzik
Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 10:03:27AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Red herring. 2.4.x has ICH5/6 support -- but is missing the RAID support component. We are talking about hardware that is ALREADY supported by 2.4.x kernel, not new hardware. You're talking about software not

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 10:03:27AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Red herring. > > 2.4.x has ICH5/6 support -- but is missing the RAID support component. > > We are talking about hardware that is ALREADY supported by 2.4.x kernel, > not new hardware. You're talking about software not support (the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 10:03 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >>I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise > >>user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. > > > > > > the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500, Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >>I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise > >>user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. > > > > > > the same is true for all new hardware drivers and

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Jeff Garzik
Arjan van de Ven wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support patches. And for new DRM (since new X may need it) and new .. and new ... where is

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
> I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise > user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support patches. And for new DRM (since new X may need it) and new .. and new ... where is the line? for me a

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 09:38:54AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Without device mapper (another new feature) to enable dmraid, these > users are just sorta S.O.L. > > I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise > user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. So

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Jeff Garzik
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:27:56 +0100, Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 21:36 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Martins Krikis wrote: Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now available for the 2.4 series kernels at

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:27:56 +0100, Arjan van de Ven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 21:36 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > > Martins Krikis wrote: > > > Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now > > > available for the 2.4 series kernels at > > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 21:36 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: > Martins Krikis wrote: > > Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now > > available for the 2.4 series kernels at > > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/iswraid/2.4.29-iswraid.patch.gz?download > > ACK from me

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 21:36 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Martins Krikis wrote: Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now available for the 2.4 series kernels at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/iswraid/2.4.29-iswraid.patch.gz?download ACK from me personally I

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:27:56 +0100, Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 21:36 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Martins Krikis wrote: Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now available for the 2.4 series kernels at

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Jeff Garzik
Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote: On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:27:56 +0100, Arjan van de Ven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 21:36 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Martins Krikis wrote: Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now available for the 2.4 series kernels at

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 09:38:54AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Without device mapper (another new feature) to enable dmraid, these users are just sorta S.O.L. I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. So those

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support patches. And for new DRM (since new X may need it) and new .. and new ... where is the line? for me a

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Jeff Garzik
Arjan van de Ven wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support patches. And for new DRM (since new X may need it) and new .. and new ... where is

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 10:03:27 -0500, Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 10:03 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: I consider it not a new feature, but a missing feature, since otherwise user data cannot be accessed in the RAID setups. the same is true for all new hardware drivers and hardware support patches. And for

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 10:03:27AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Red herring. 2.4.x has ICH5/6 support -- but is missing the RAID support component. We are talking about hardware that is ALREADY supported by 2.4.x kernel, not new hardware. You're talking about software not support (the intel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Jeff Garzik
Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 10:03:27AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: Red herring. 2.4.x has ICH5/6 support -- but is missing the RAID support component. We are talking about hardware that is ALREADY supported by 2.4.x kernel, not new hardware. You're talking about software not

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-06 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sun, Feb 06, 2005 at 11:09:37AM -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote: I'm talking about being able to access data, or not. And your point is? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: [ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-05 Thread Jeff Garzik
Martins Krikis wrote: Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now available for the 2.4 series kernels at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/iswraid/2.4.29-iswraid.patch.gz?download ACK from me - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-02-05 Thread Jeff Garzik
Martins Krikis wrote: Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now available for the 2.4 series kernels at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/iswraid/2.4.29-iswraid.patch.gz?download ACK from me - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body

[ANNOUNCE] "iswraid" (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-01-28 Thread Martins Krikis
Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now available for the 2.4 series kernels at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/iswraid/2.4.29-iswraid.patch.gz?download It is an ataraid "subdriver" but uses the SCSI subsystem to find the RAID member disks. It depends on the libata

[ANNOUNCE] iswraid (ICHxR ataraid sub-driver) for 2.4.29

2005-01-28 Thread Martins Krikis
Version 0.1.5 of the Intel Sofware RAID driver (iswraid) is now available for the 2.4 series kernels at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/iswraid/2.4.29-iswraid.patch.gz?download It is an ataraid subdriver but uses the SCSI subsystem to find the RAID member disks. It depends on the libata