Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-04 Thread Tom Vier
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 01:21:08AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > It brings up another sore point with me. I'm of the opinion that both > copyright, and patent, should be granted to the author/inventor on a > non-transferable basis. He could then sell rights to use it for a > set period of

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-04 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:11 -0700, Trever L. Adams wrote: [...] > It is Article 1 Section 8. It also says they shall have that power and > that the intent is to promote the advances of arts and sciences. It Actually the current (ab)use of the patent system (both in the USA and by the EPO under

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-04 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 13:11 -0700, Trever L. Adams wrote: [...] It is Article 1 Section 8. It also says they shall have that power and that the intent is to promote the advances of arts and sciences. It Actually the current (ab)use of the patent system (both in the USA and by the EPO under

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-04 Thread Tom Vier
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 01:21:08AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: It brings up another sore point with me. I'm of the opinion that both copyright, and patent, should be granted to the author/inventor on a non-transferable basis. He could then sell rights to use it for a set period of time, at

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Trever L. Adams wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 08:48 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States Constitution, and patents are not going away. Merkey aren't you supposed to be a lawyer? Unless you do some funky concatenation of articles

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Trever L. Adams
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 08:48 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States > Constitution, and patents > are not going away. Merkey aren't you supposed to be a lawyer? Unless you do some funky concatenation of articles and sections you can't

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread jmerkey
James Simmons wrote: Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States Constitution, and patents are not going away. Live with guys. The best way to win the patent wars is for people who do Linux development to file their own patents and put some stakes in the ground. I

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread James Simmons
> Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States > Constitution, and patents > are not going away. Live with guys. The best way to win the patent > wars is for people > who do Linux development to file their own patents and put some stakes > in the ground. I have to

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread jmerkey
You guys keep saying, "stop the patents" but this is insanity. It's like all these big companies used patents like swords and are hemming linux in, and Linux stands naked and defenseless. You guys need to get your own swords and fight -- start filing patents -- go to this new law center

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Randy.Dunlap
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 21:28 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. ... and another - AFAICS obvious - trivial ("prior art") patent (but

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 21:28 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. ... and another - AFAICS obvious - trivial ("prior art") patent (but I'm not fluent in

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Why the hell would I want to look at the link in kwrite? Talk to the USPTO, they created these links from their website. BTW, if you check the verson of web server run on the uspto.gov server, you will discover it is Apache on IBM servers and IBM Linux. Ask them why IBM's sofware outputs

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 11:31:36AM +0100, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 01:21 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > [...] > > It brings up another sore point with me. I'm of the opinion that both > > copyright, and patent, should be granted to the author/inventor on a > >

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 01:21 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > It brings up another sore point with me. I'm of the opinion that both > copyright, and patent, should be granted to the author/inventor on a > non-transferable basis. He could then sell rights to use it for a ACK. This would kill

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 21:28 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > >>Another Linux patent. ... and another - AFAICS obvious - trivial ("prior art") patent (but I'm not fluent in patent quak, I'm just a simple systems

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Måns Rullgård
Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Why the hell would I want to look at the link in kwrite? >> >>Talk to the USPTO, they created these links from their website. BTW, >>if you check the verson of web server run on the uspto.gov server, >>you will discover it is Apache on IBM servers and

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Måns Rullgård
Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why the hell would I want to look at the link in kwrite? Talk to the USPTO, they created these links from their website. BTW, if you check the verson of web server run on the uspto.gov server, you will discover it is Apache on IBM servers and IBM Linux.

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 21:28 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. ... and another - AFAICS obvious - trivial (prior art) patent (but I'm not fluent in patent quak, I'm just a simple systems engineer).

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 01:21 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] It brings up another sore point with me. I'm of the opinion that both copyright, and patent, should be granted to the author/inventor on a non-transferable basis. He could then sell rights to use it for a ACK. This would kill

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 11:31:36AM +0100, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 01:21 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] It brings up another sore point with me. I'm of the opinion that both copyright, and patent, should be granted to the author/inventor on a non-transferable

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Why the hell would I want to look at the link in kwrite? Talk to the USPTO, they created these links from their website. BTW, if you check the verson of web server run on the uspto.gov server, you will discover it is Apache on IBM servers and IBM Linux. Ask them why IBM's sofware outputs

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 21:28 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. ... and another - AFAICS obvious - trivial (prior art) patent (but I'm not fluent in

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Randy.Dunlap
Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 21:28 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. ... and another - AFAICS obvious - trivial (prior art) patent (but I'm

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread jmerkey
You guys keep saying, stop the patents but this is insanity. It's like all these big companies used patents like swords and are hemming linux in, and Linux stands naked and defenseless. You guys need to get your own swords and fight -- start filing patents -- go to this new law center

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread James Simmons
Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States Constitution, and patents are not going away. Live with guys. The best way to win the patent wars is for people who do Linux development to file their own patents and put some stakes in the ground. I have to agree

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread jmerkey
James Simmons wrote: Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States Constitution, and patents are not going away. Live with guys. The best way to win the patent wars is for people who do Linux development to file their own patents and put some stakes in the ground. I

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Trever L. Adams
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 08:48 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States Constitution, and patents are not going away. Merkey aren't you supposed to be a lawyer? Unless you do some funky concatenation of articles and sections you can't find

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Trever L. Adams wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 08:48 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Patent law in the US is based on section 113 of the United States Constitution, and patents are not going away. Merkey aren't you supposed to be a lawyer? Unless you do some funky concatenation of articles

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 23:28, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >>On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: >>>Another Linux patent. >> >>And that pretty much says it. Assigned to the Canopy Group. So >> SCO will have yet another lawsuit to threaten us with. If

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-02 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. And that pretty much says it. Assigned to the Canopy Group. So SCO will have yet another lawsuit to threaten us with. If they survive the thrashing I've Been Moved will give them at

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: >Another Linux patent. And that pretty much says it. Assigned to the Canopy Group. So SCO will have yet another lawsuit to threaten us with. If they survive the thrashing I've Been Moved will give them at the end of the day. Too

[Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-02 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Another Linux patent. --- Begin Message --- http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2=HITOFF=1=/netahtml/search-bool.html=1=G=50=AND=ptxt=merkey.INZZ.=IN/merkey=IN/merkey

[Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-02 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Another Linux patent. ---BeginMessage--- http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=/netahtml/search-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=ptxts1=merkey.INZZ.OS=IN/merkeyRS=IN/merkey

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. And that pretty much says it. Assigned to the Canopy Group. So SCO will have yet another lawsuit to threaten us with. If they survive the thrashing I've Been Moved will give them at the end of the day. Too bad

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-02 Thread Jeff V. Merkey
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. And that pretty much says it. Assigned to the Canopy Group. So SCO will have yet another lawsuit to threaten us with. If they survive the thrashing I've Been Moved will give them at

Re: [Fwd: United States Patent: 6,862,609]

2005-03-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 23:28, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:36, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: Another Linux patent. And that pretty much says it. Assigned to the Canopy Group. So SCO will have yet another lawsuit to threaten us with. If they survive