Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:53:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:16 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: > > Jeff Garzik wrote: > > > Chris Friesen wrote: > > >> Randy Dunlap wrote: > > >> > > >>> +Thunderbird (GUI) > > >>> + > > >>> +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Stefan Richter
>> On Sep 11 2007 21:26, Chris Friesen wrote: >>> Thunderbird, at least, will automatically inline a single text/plain >>> attachment when replying. (At least with my current settings, it does.) I dont know about Thunderbird, but Seamonkey apparently only includes text/plain attachments in the

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:16 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: > Jeff Garzik wrote: > > Chris Friesen wrote: > >> Randy Dunlap wrote: > >> > >>> +Thunderbird (GUI) > >>> + > >>> +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to > >>> +coerce it into being nice. > >> > >> Can someone

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Rik van Riel
Jeff Garzik wrote: Chris Friesen wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Chris Friesen
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Sep 11 2007 21:26, Chris Friesen wrote: Thunderbird, at least, will automatically inline a single text/plain attachment when replying. (At least with my current settings, it does.) No, the thing is: you send it attached with Thunderbird, and my PINE strips it on

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Sep 11 2007 21:26, Chris Friesen wrote: >> > Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in >> > Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked document... > >> Email clients don't like to quote attachments, even text/plain ones, which >> then makes attached

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:02:29AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:24:13PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:29:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > ... >

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Randy Dunlap
Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:24:13PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:29:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: ... +~~ +Mutt (TUI) + +Plenty of Linux

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:02:29AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:24:13PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:29:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: ...

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Sep 11 2007 21:26, Chris Friesen wrote: Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked document... Email clients don't like to quote attachments, even text/plain ones, which then makes attached patches much

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Chris Friesen
Jan Engelhardt wrote: On Sep 11 2007 21:26, Chris Friesen wrote: Thunderbird, at least, will automatically inline a single text/plain attachment when replying. (At least with my current settings, it does.) No, the thing is: you send it attached with Thunderbird, and my PINE strips it on

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Rik van Riel
Jeff Garzik wrote: Chris Friesen wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:16 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: Chris Friesen wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Stefan Richter
On Sep 11 2007 21:26, Chris Friesen wrote: Thunderbird, at least, will automatically inline a single text/plain attachment when replying. (At least with my current settings, it does.) I dont know about Thunderbird, but Seamonkey apparently only includes text/plain attachments in the reply

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 09:53:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 15:16 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: Chris Friesen wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:24:13PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:29:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > >>... > >> +~~ > >> +Mutt (TUI) > >> + > >> +Plenty of Linux

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread WANG Cong
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:29:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: >On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: >>... >> +~~ >> +Mutt (TUI) >> + >> +Plenty of Linux developers use mutt, so it must work pretty well. >> + >> +Are there any

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread WANG Cong
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:52:14PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > >On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:38 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: >> On 9/11/07, Peter Zijlstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: >> > >> > >

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:36:42 +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > +~~ > > +Evolutions (GUI) > > I take it you mean: Evolution Yep, lousy keyboard. ;) I've updated the text file and will

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
Jeff Garzik wrote: Chris Friesen wrote: Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked document... Email clients don't like to quote attachments, even text/plain ones, which then makes attached patches much more

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Sami Farin
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 14:38:13 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > You can also diff -Nru old.c new.c | xclip, select Preformat, then > paste with the middle button. mutt does not come with text editor, so I'd like to add note about vim: If using xclip, type command :set paste before middle button or

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:38 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: > On 9/11/07, Peter Zijlstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > > > +~~ > > > +Evolutions (GUI) > > > > I take it you mean: Evolution > > >

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Jeff Garzik
Chris Friesen wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Stefan Richter
Randy Dunlap wrote: > +Alpine (TUI) ... > +Evolutions (GUI) Evolution_ ? ... > +Kmail (GUI) ... > +Lotus Notes (GUI) ... > +Mutt (TUI) ... > +Pine (TUI) ... > +Sylpheed (GUI) ... > +Thunderbird (GUI) ... +~~ +TkRat (GUI) + +Works. Use "Insert

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Martin Bligh
Chris Friesen wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked document... Chris - To

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Sep 11 2007 20:17, Adrian Bunk wrote: >There were no problems with sending patches in pine. > >Pine had problems with UTF-8, and that's where alpine is fixed, but >that's a more tangential problem. Pine [4.64] has problems with ISO-2022-JP, but not UTF-8 AFAICT. Jan -- - To

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Sep 11 2007 14:03, Nicolas Pitre wrote: >> +Alpine (TUI) >> + >> + >> + >> +Are any special config options needed? > >Alpine is the successor of Pine. Issues that were found in some earlier >Pine versions wrt patch sending are now fixed. > >Here's the relevant config options. In the "Sending

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 02:03:34PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > >... > > > > +Alpine (TUI) > > > > + > > > > + > > > > + > > > > +Are

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Lee Revell
On 9/11/07, Peter Zijlstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > > > +~~ > > +Evolutions (GUI) > > I take it you mean: Evolution > > > +Some people seem to use this successfully for patches. > > + > >

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: >... > +~~ > +Mutt (TUI) > + > +Plenty of Linux developers use mutt, so it must work pretty well. > + > +Are there any special config options that are needed?? >... It should work with

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 02:03:34PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > >... > > > +Alpine (TUI) > > > + > > > + > > > + > > > +Are any special config options needed? > > > > Alpine is the successor of Pine. Issues

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 02:03:34PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: >... > > +Alpine (TUI) > > + > > + > > + > > +Are any special config options needed? > > Alpine is the successor of Pine. Issues that were found in some earlier > Pine versions wrt patch

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: > From: Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Requested by Jeff Garzik. > > Add info about various email clients and their applicability > in being used to send Linux kernel patches. > > Some notes takes from http://mbligh.org/linuxdocs/Email/Clients >

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: > +~~ > +Evolutions (GUI) I take it you mean: Evolution > +Some people seem to use this successfully for patches. > + > +What config options are needed? When composing mail select: Preformat

[PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Randy Dunlap
From: Randy Dunlap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Requested by Jeff Garzik. Add info about various email clients and their applicability in being used to send Linux kernel patches. Some notes takes from http://mbligh.org/linuxdocs/Email/Clients Portions used with permission. Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap

[PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Randy Dunlap
From: Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] Requested by Jeff Garzik. Add info about various email clients and their applicability in being used to send Linux kernel patches. Some notes takes from http://mbligh.org/linuxdocs/Email/Clients Portions used with permission. Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: +~~ +Evolutions (GUI) I take it you mean: Evolution +Some people seem to use this successfully for patches. + +What config options are needed? When composing mail select: Preformat

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: From: Randy Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] Requested by Jeff Garzik. Add info about various email clients and their applicability in being used to send Linux kernel patches. Some notes takes from http://mbligh.org/linuxdocs/Email/Clients Portions

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 02:03:34PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: ... +Alpine (TUI) + +I don't know. Maybe Adrian or Linus can comment. + +Are any special config options needed? Alpine is the successor of Pine. Issues that were found in some

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: ... +~~ +Mutt (TUI) + +Plenty of Linux developers use mutt, so it must work pretty well. + +Are there any special config options that are needed?? ... It should work with default

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Nicolas Pitre
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 02:03:34PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: ... +Alpine (TUI) + +I don't know. Maybe Adrian or Linus can comment. + +Are any special config options needed? Alpine is the

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Lee Revell
On 9/11/07, Peter Zijlstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: +~~ +Evolutions (GUI) I take it you mean: Evolution +Some people seem to use this successfully for patches. + +What config

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 02:31:16PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 02:03:34PM -0400, Nicolas Pitre wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Randy Dunlap wrote: ... +Alpine (TUI) + +I don't know. Maybe Adrian or Linus can

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Sep 11 2007 14:03, Nicolas Pitre wrote: +Alpine (TUI) + +I don't know. Maybe Adrian or Linus can comment. + +Are any special config options needed? Alpine is the successor of Pine. Issues that were found in some earlier Pine versions wrt patch sending are now fixed. Here's the

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Sep 11 2007 20:17, Adrian Bunk wrote: There were no problems with sending patches in pine. Pine had problems with UTF-8, and that's where alpine is fixed, but that's a more tangential problem. Pine [4.64] has problems with ISO-2022-JP, but not UTF-8 AFAICT. Jan -- - To

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked document... Chris - To

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Martin Bligh
Chris Friesen wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Stefan Richter
Randy Dunlap wrote: +Alpine (TUI) ... +Evolutions (GUI) Evolution_ ? ... +Kmail (GUI) ... +Lotus Notes (GUI) ... +Mutt (TUI) ... +Pine (TUI) ... +Sylpheed (GUI) ... +Thunderbird (GUI) ... +~~ +TkRat (GUI) + +Works. Use Insert file... or

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Jeff Garzik
Chris Friesen wrote: Randy Dunlap wrote: +Thunderbird (GUI) + +By default, thunderbird likes to mangle text, but there are ways to +coerce it into being nice. Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Peter Zijlstra
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:38 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On 9/11/07, Peter Zijlstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: +~~ +Evolutions (GUI) I take it you mean: Evolution +Some people seem

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Sami Farin
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 14:38:13 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: You can also diff -Nru old.c new.c | xclip, select Preformat, then paste with the middle button. mutt does not come with text editor, so I'd like to add note about vim: If using xclip, type command :set paste before middle button or

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Chris Friesen
Jeff Garzik wrote: Chris Friesen wrote: Can someone describe the problems with just attaching the patch in Thunderbird? It's what Martin says he does on the linked document... Email clients don't like to quote attachments, even text/plain ones, which then makes attached patches much more

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Randy Dunlap
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:36:42 +0200 Peter Zijlstra wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: +~~ +Evolutions (GUI) I take it you mean: Evolution Yep, lousy keyboard. ;) I've updated the text file and will resend it

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread WANG Cong
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:52:14PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:38 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On 9/11/07, Peter Zijlstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 10:16 -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: +~~

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread WANG Cong
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:29:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: ... +~~ +Mutt (TUI) + +Plenty of Linux developers use mutt, so it must work pretty well. + +Are there any special config

Re: [PATCH/RFC] doc: about email clients for Linux kernel patches

2007-09-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 01:24:13PM +0800, WANG Cong wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:29:26PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:16:44AM -0700, Randy Dunlap wrote: ... +~~ +Mutt (TUI) + +Plenty of Linux developers use