On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:53:06AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> At most, they will ask their distro vendor for continued support of the
> feature (which there will be in the same minor release), and if vendors'
> feedback show there is enough demand, then we will just have to delay the
>
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 01:02:50AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:45:40AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:17:51AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:12:42AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:45:40AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:17:51AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:12:42AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:17:51AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:12:42AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> > >
> > > > Then a printk() on
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:12:42AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> >
> > > Then a printk() on every open() should be enough. We've all been seeing
> > > "Warning:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
>
> > Then a printk() on every open() should be enough. We've all been seeing
> > "Warning: tcpdump uses obsolete AF_PACKET"... and it finally disappeared.
>
> There's
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:42:36 -0400
Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 04:27:17PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > [1] Though admittedly the one in RHEL deviates from upstream
> > > as it contains performance enhancements that were vetoed from
> > > upstream
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> Then a printk() on every open() should be enough. We've all been seeing
> "Warning: tcpdump uses obsolete AF_PACKET"... and it finally disappeared.
There's a difference. We have the source for tcpdump.
Dave
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On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 04:27:17PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > [1] Though admittedly the one in RHEL deviates from upstream
> > as it contains performance enhancements that were vetoed from
> > upstream acceptance due to it being "deprecated".
>
> What enhancements are they?
Hmm,
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:19:35 -0400
Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 03:19:52PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > We've given people years of notice and _some_ applications have converted
> > over to open("/dev/sda1", O_DIRECT), as they should.
> >
> > Sure,
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 04:13:41PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:10:50 +
> Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > This is a user visible API it is therefore not elligable for removal
> > > > anyway
> > >
> > > mutter.
> > >
> > > We've given people years of
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 03:19:52PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> We've given people years of notice and _some_ applications have converted
> over to open("/dev/sda1", O_DIRECT), as they should.
>
> Sure, it's a small and simple driver (now), so the cost of maintaining it
> is low.
>
>
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:10:50 +
Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > This is a user visible API it is therefore not elligable for removal
> > > anyway
> >
> > mutter.
> >
> > We've given people years of notice and _some_ applications have converted
> > over to open("/dev/sda1",
> > This is a user visible API it is therefore not elligable for removal
> > anyway
>
> mutter.
>
> We've given people years of notice and _some_ applications have converted
> over to open("/dev/sda1", O_DIRECT), as they should.
Linus said we don't break old applications by removing APIs.
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:14:42 +
Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:57:36 -0400
> Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Delete the
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:14:42 +
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:57:36 -0400
Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Delete the allegedly obsolete raw
This is a user visible API it is therefore not elligable for removal
anyway
mutter.
We've given people years of notice and _some_ applications have converted
over to open(/dev/sda1, O_DIRECT), as they should.
Linus said we don't break old applications by removing APIs. People
believe
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:10:50 +
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a user visible API it is therefore not elligable for removal
anyway
mutter.
We've given people years of notice and _some_ applications have converted
over to open(/dev/sda1, O_DIRECT), as they should.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 03:19:52PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
We've given people years of notice and _some_ applications have converted
over to open(/dev/sda1, O_DIRECT), as they should.
Sure, it's a small and simple driver (now), so the cost of maintaining it
is low.
But otoh,
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 04:13:41PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:10:50 +
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a user visible API it is therefore not elligable for removal
anyway
mutter.
We've given people years of notice and _some_
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:19:35 -0400
Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 03:19:52PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
We've given people years of notice and _some_ applications have converted
over to open(/dev/sda1, O_DIRECT), as they should.
Sure, it's a small and
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 04:27:17PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
[1] Though admittedly the one in RHEL deviates from upstream
as it contains performance enhancements that were vetoed from
upstream acceptance due to it being deprecated.
What enhancements are they?
Hmm, actually it
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
Then a printk() on every open() should be enough. We've all been seeing
Warning: tcpdump uses obsolete AF_PACKET... and it finally disappeared.
There's a difference. We have the source for tcpdump.
Dave
--
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:42:36 -0400
Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 04:27:17PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
[1] Though admittedly the one in RHEL deviates from upstream
as it contains performance enhancements that were vetoed from
upstream acceptance due to
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
Then a printk() on every open() should be enough. We've all been seeing
Warning: tcpdump uses obsolete AF_PACKET... and it finally disappeared.
There's a
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:12:42AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
Then a printk() on every open() should be enough. We've all been seeing
Warning: tcpdump
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:17:51AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:12:42AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
Then a printk() on every open()
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:45:40AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:17:51AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:12:42AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:24:33AM
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 01:02:50AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:45:40AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 12:17:51AM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 05:12:42AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 07:43:18PM
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 06:53:06AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
At most, they will ask their distro vendor for continued support of the
feature (which there will be in the same minor release), and if vendors'
feedback show there is enough demand, then we will just have to delay the
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:57:36 -0400
> Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:57:36 -0400
Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
> > > marked for death since
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
> "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
> > marked for death since 2005.
>
> I think it would be better to replace it with a wrapper
> that forces
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
marked for death since 2005.
I think it would be better to replace it with a wrapper
that forces O_DIRECT and
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:57:36 -0400
Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
marked for death since 2005.
I
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Alan Cox wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:57:36 -0400
Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 04:57:57PM +0100, Andi Kleen wrote:
Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Andi Kleen wrote:
> "Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
> > marked for death since 2005.
>
> I think it would be better to replace it with a wrapper that forces
> O_DIRECT and opens the
"Robert P. J. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
> marked for death since 2005.
I think it would be better to replace it with a wrapper
that forces O_DIRECT and opens the underlying block device. I suspect
just dropping it will
Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
marked for death since 2005.
Signed-off-by: Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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compile-tested with "make allyesconfig" under x86.
Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt |8
Documentation/ioctl-number.txt
Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
marked for death since 2005.
Signed-off-by: Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
compile-tested with make allyesconfig under x86.
Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt |8
Documentation/ioctl-number.txt
Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
marked for death since 2005.
I think it would be better to replace it with a wrapper
that forces O_DIRECT and opens the underlying block device. I suspect
just dropping it will break
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007, Andi Kleen wrote:
Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Delete the allegedly obsolete raw driver feature, which has been
marked for death since 2005.
I think it would be better to replace it with a wrapper that forces
O_DIRECT and opens the underlying block
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