Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread ethan zhao

Linda,

On 2014/12/5 12:56, Linda Knippers wrote:

Hi Ethan,

On 12/4/2014 10:38 PM, ethan zhao wrote:

Linda,

On 2014/12/5 7:03, Linda Knippers wrote:

On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
"Rafael J. Wysocki"  wrote:


On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or
"sun_force"
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.


For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
---
   v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
   v4: refine code and doc.
   v5: fix a typo in doc.
   v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

   Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
   drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be
entirely omitted.
  disable
Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
scaling driver for the supported processors
+   ora_force
+ Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+ only for those who be aware of the risk of no power capping
+ capability working and try to get better performance with this
+ driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping capability
working" mean, in particular?


 intremap=[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
   onenable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
   };
 static int __initdata no_load;
+static unsigned int  ora_force;
 static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
   {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
   case PSS:
   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
   case PPC:
-return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
+(!ora_force);
   }
   }
   @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
 if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
   no_load = 1;
+if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
+ora_force = 1;
   return 0;
   }
   early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?


That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
when you have dueling power management.

   Most of the power management functions is done by SP(service processor) on 
Sun
X86
   servers, the 'force' parameter is not supposed to disable whole platform
working I think,
   with intel_pstate,  it doesn't do CPU power capping issued via _PPC
notification. but all
  other rest parts of the power management still work. There is no scene as HP
proliant OS
  mode that OS could control everything(sorry, I don't know Proliant 
Architecture).

  So at least, it doesn't make sense to Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide an OS
option to stop
  all PM functions even disable ACPI at all.

  If the users could be aware of that the power capping doesn't work with CPUs.
they could
  load intel_pstate driver, though there may be faulty in SP . they still could
monitor and
  manage the power consumption of other parts in the server.

  Perhaps this is what we would test/have tested with intel_pstate.

  There is a public manual about PM command in Sun server SP may could help you
to understand
  the  difference.
  https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19121-01/sf.x4150/820-6412-12/820-6412-12.pdf

I've tried to put the pieces together so tell me if I've got this right.
  Sorry, I have a little 

Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Linda Knippers

Hi Ethan,

On 12/4/2014 10:38 PM, ethan zhao wrote:
> Linda,
> 
> On 2014/12/5 7:03, Linda Knippers wrote:
>> On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
>>> "Rafael J. Wysocki"  wrote:
>>>
 On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
> To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command 
> line
> parameter
>
>intel_pstate = ora_force
 I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or
 "sun_force"
 for clarity.

 Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.

> For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working 
> and
> try to get better performance with this driver.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
> ---
>   v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
>   v4: refine code and doc.
>   v5: fix a typo in doc.
>   v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
>
>   Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
>   drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
>   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also 
> be
> entirely omitted.
>  disable
>Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
>scaling driver for the supported processors
> +   ora_force
> + Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
> + only for those who be aware of the risk of no power capping
> + capability working and try to get better performance with 
> this
> + driver.
 That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping 
 capability
 working" mean, in particular?

> intremap=[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
>   onenable Interrupt Remapping (default)
> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c 
> b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
>   };
> static int __initdata no_load;
> +static unsigned int  ora_force;
> static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
>   {
> @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
> intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
>   case PSS:
>   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
>   case PPC:
> -return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
> +return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
> +(!ora_force);
>   }
>   }
>   @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
> if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
>   no_load = 1;
> +if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
> +ora_force = 1;
>   return 0;
>   }
>   early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);
 And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that 
 would
 work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?

>>> That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
>>> checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
>>> it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
>>> oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
>>> think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.
>> I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
>> but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
>> can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
>> Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
>> when you have dueling power management.
>   Most of the power management functions is done by SP(service processor) on 
> Sun
> X86
>   servers, the 'force' parameter is not supposed to disable whole platform
> working I think,
>   with intel_pstate,  it doesn't do CPU power capping issued via _PPC
> notification. but all
>  other rest parts of the power management still work. There is no scene as HP
> proliant OS
>  mode that OS could control everything(sorry, I don't know Proliant 
> Architecture).
> 
>  So at least, it doesn't make sense to Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide an OS
> option to stop
>  all PM functions even disable ACPI at all.
> 
>  If the users could be aware of that the power capping doesn't work with CPUs.
> they could
>  load intel_pstate driver, though 

Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Linda Knippers
On 12/4/2014 9:05 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, December 04, 2014 06:03:05 PM Linda Knippers wrote:
>> On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
>>> On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
>>> "Rafael J. Wysocki"  wrote:
>>>
 On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
> To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command 
> line
> parameter
>
>   intel_pstate = ora_force

 I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or 
 "sun_force"
 for clarity.

 Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.

> For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working 
> and
> try to get better performance with this driver.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
> ---
>  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
>  v4: refine code and doc.
>  v5: fix a typo in doc.
>  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
>
>  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
>  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
>  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
> b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also 
> be entirely omitted.
>  disable
>Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
>scaling driver for the supported processors
> +ora_force
> +  Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
> +  only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
> capping
> +  capability working and try to get better performance 
> with this
> +  driver.

 That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping 
 capability
 working" mean, in particular?

>  
>   intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
>   on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c 
> b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
>  };
>  
>  static int __initdata no_load;
> +static unsigned int  ora_force;
>  
>  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
>  {
> @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
> intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
>   case PSS:
>   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
>   case PPC:
> - return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
> + return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
> + (!ora_force);
>   }
>   }
>  
> @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
>  
>   if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
>   no_load = 1;
> + if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
> + ora_force = 1;
>   return 0;
>  }
>  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);

 And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that 
 would
 work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?

>>>
>>> That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
>>> checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
>>> it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
>>> oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
>>> think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.
>>
>> I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
>> but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
>> can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
>> Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
>> when you have dueling power management.
>>
>> The description would need to be different too since I think on
>> ProLiant, power capping can happen at any time, even if the
>> system is in OS control mode and the intel_pstate driver is
>> loaded.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a description for a force option that would
>> make sense generically?
> 
> What about:
> 
>   force
>   Enable intel_pstate on systems where it may cause problems to
>   happen due to conflicts with platform firmware attempting to
>   drive P-states by itself in certain situations (for thermal
>   control or power capping in general or other 

Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread ethan zhao

Linda,

On 2014/12/5 7:03, Linda Knippers wrote:

On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
"Rafael J. Wysocki"  wrote:


On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or 
"sun_force"
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.


For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping capability
working" mean, in particular?

  
  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]

on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;

+static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)

  {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
  
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
  	if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))

no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
  }
  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?


That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
when you have dueling power management.
  Most of the power management functions is done by SP(service 
processor) on Sun X86
  servers, the 'force' parameter is not supposed to disable whole 
platform working I think,
  with intel_pstate,  it doesn't do CPU power capping issued via _PPC 
notification. but all
 other rest parts of the power management still work. There is no scene 
as HP proliant OS
 mode that OS could control everything(sorry, I don't know Proliant 
Architecture).


 So at least, it doesn't make sense to Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide 
an OS option to stop

 all PM functions even disable ACPI at all.

 If the users could be aware of that the power capping doesn't work 
with CPUs. they could
 load intel_pstate driver, though there may be faulty in SP . they 
still could monitor and

 manage the power consumption of other parts in the server.

 Perhaps this is what we would test/have tested with intel_pstate.

 There is a public manual about PM command in Sun server SP may could 
help you to understand

 the  difference.
 https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19121-01/sf.x4150/820-6412-12/820-6412-12.pdf


The description would need to be 

Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread ethan zhao

Kristen,

On 2014/12/5 6:38, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
"Rafael J. Wysocki"  wrote:


On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or 
"sun_force"
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.


For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping capability
working" mean, in particular?

  
  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]

on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;

+static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)

  {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
  
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
  	if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))

no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
  }
  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?


That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

  I am OK with a generic parameter.
  Anyway I hope there is a parameter to allow us load intel_pstate on 
Oracle boxes, specific to Oracle or generic.


  Thanks,
  Ethan

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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread ethan zhao

Rafael,

On 2014/12/5 6:10, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or 
"sun_force"
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.
 "oracle_force" or "sun_force" doesn't sound bad to me, except it looks 
like a suggestion from
 "Oracle" or "Sun". does it imply user to use it by default on Oracle 
boxes ?



For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping capability
working" mean, in particular?
 That means we couldn't limit the power consumption of the host to what 
we want, in some cases, it
 possibly burn the fuse if the redundancy of power supply is not 
enough, that would stop service.


 Did I make it clear ?


 Thanks,
 Ethan


  
  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]

on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;

+static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)

  {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
  
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
  	if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))

no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
  }
  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?



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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 06:03:05 PM Linda Knippers wrote:
> On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> > On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
> > "Rafael J. Wysocki"  wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
> >>> To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command 
> >>> line
> >>> parameter
> >>>
> >>>   intel_pstate = ora_force
> >>
> >> I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or 
> >> "sun_force"
> >> for clarity.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.
> >>
> >>> For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working 
> >>> and
> >>> try to get better performance with this driver.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
> >>> ---
> >>>  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
> >>>  v4: refine code and doc.
> >>>  v5: fix a typo in doc.
> >>>  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
> >>>
> >>>  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
> >>>  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
> >>>  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
> >>> b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> >>> index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
> >>> --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> >>> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> >>> @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also 
> >>> be entirely omitted.
> >>>  disable
> >>>Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
> >>>scaling driver for the supported processors
> >>> +ora_force
> >>> +  Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
> >>> +  only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
> >>> capping
> >>> +  capability working and try to get better performance 
> >>> with this
> >>> +  driver.
> >>
> >> That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping 
> >> capability
> >> working" mean, in particular?
> >>
> >>>  
> >>>   intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
> >>>   on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
> >>> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c 
> >>> b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> >>> index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
> >>> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> >>> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> >>> @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
> >>>  };
> >>>  
> >>>  static int __initdata no_load;
> >>> +static unsigned int  ora_force;
> >>>  
> >>>  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
> >>>  {
> >>> @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
> >>> intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
> >>>   case PSS:
> >>>   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
> >>>   case PPC:
> >>> - return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
> >>> + return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
> >>> + (!ora_force);
> >>>   }
> >>>   }
> >>>  
> >>> @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
> >>>  
> >>>   if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
> >>>   no_load = 1;
> >>> + if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
> >>> + ora_force = 1;
> >>>   return 0;
> >>>  }
> >>>  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);
> >>
> >> And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that 
> >> would
> >> work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?
> >>
> > 
> > That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
> > checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
> > it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
> > oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
> > think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.
> 
> I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
> but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
> can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
> Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
> when you have dueling power management.
> 
> The description would need to be different too since I think on
> ProLiant, power capping can happen at any time, even if the
> system is in OS control mode and the intel_pstate driver is
> loaded.
> 
> Can anyone suggest a description for a force option that would
> make sense generically?

What about:

force
Enable intel_pstate on systems where it may cause problems to
happen due to conflicts with platform firmware attempting to
drive P-states by itself in certain situations (for thermal
control or power capping in general or other purposes).

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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Linda Knippers
On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
> "Rafael J. Wysocki"  wrote:
> 
>> On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
>>> To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
>>> parameter
>>>
>>>   intel_pstate = ora_force
>>
>> I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or 
>> "sun_force"
>> for clarity.
>>
>> Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.
>>
>>> For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
>>> try to get better performance with this driver.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
>>> ---
>>>  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
>>>  v4: refine code and doc.
>>>  v5: fix a typo in doc.
>>>  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
>>>
>>>  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
>>>  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
>>>  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
>>> b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>>> @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
>>> entirely omitted.
>>>disable
>>>  Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
>>>  scaling driver for the supported processors
>>> +  ora_force
>>> +Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
>>> +only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
>>> capping
>>> +capability working and try to get better performance 
>>> with this
>>> +driver.
>>
>> That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping 
>> capability
>> working" mean, in particular?
>>
>>>  
>>> intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
>>> on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
>>> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>>> index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>>> @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
>>>  };
>>>  
>>>  static int __initdata no_load;
>>> +static unsigned int  ora_force;
>>>  
>>>  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
>>>  {
>>> @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
>>> intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
>>> case PSS:
>>> return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
>>> case PPC:
>>> -   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
>>> +   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
>>> +   (!ora_force);
>>> }
>>> }
>>>  
>>> @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
>>>  
>>> if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
>>> no_load = 1;
>>> +   if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
>>> +   ora_force = 1;
>>> return 0;
>>>  }
>>>  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);
>>
>> And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that 
>> would
>> work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?
>>
> 
> That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
> checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
> it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
> oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
> think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
when you have dueling power management.

The description would need to be different too since I think on
ProLiant, power capping can happen at any time, even if the
system is in OS control mode and the intel_pstate driver is
loaded.

Can anyone suggest a description for a force option that would
make sense generically?

-- ljk



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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Kristen Carlson Accardi
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
"Rafael J. Wysocki"  wrote:

> On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
> > To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
> > parameter
> > 
> >   intel_pstate = ora_force
> 
> I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or 
> "sun_force"
> for clarity.
> 
> Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.
> 
> > For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
> > try to get better performance with this driver.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
> > ---
> >  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
> >  v4: refine code and doc.
> >  v5: fix a typo in doc.
> >  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
> > 
> >  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
> >  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
> >  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
> > b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> > index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> > @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
> > entirely omitted.
> >disable
> >  Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
> >  scaling driver for the supported processors
> > +  ora_force
> > +Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
> > +only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
> > capping
> > +capability working and try to get better performance 
> > with this
> > +driver.
> 
> That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping 
> capability
> working" mean, in particular?
> 
> >  
> > intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
> > on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
> > diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> > index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
> > --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> > +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> > @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
> >  };
> >  
> >  static int __initdata no_load;
> > +static unsigned int  ora_force;
> >  
> >  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
> >  {
> > @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
> > intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
> > case PSS:
> > return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
> > case PPC:
> > -   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
> > +   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
> > +   (!ora_force);
> > }
> > }
> >  
> > @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
> >  
> > if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
> > no_load = 1;
> > +   if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
> > +   ora_force = 1;
> > return 0;
> >  }
> >  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);
> 
> And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that 
> would
> work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?
> 

That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
> To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
> parameter
> 
>   intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to "oracle_force" or 
"sun_force"
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.

> For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
> try to get better performance with this driver.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
> ---
>  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
>  v4: refine code and doc.
>  v5: fix a typo in doc.
>  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
> 
>  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
>  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
>  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
> b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
> --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
> entirely omitted.
>  disable
>Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
>scaling driver for the supported processors
> +ora_force
> +  Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
> +  only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
> capping
> +  capability working and try to get better performance 
> with this
> +  driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does "risk of no power capping capability
working" mean, in particular?

>  
>   intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
>   on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
> @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
>  };
>  
>  static int __initdata no_load;
> +static unsigned int  ora_force;
>  
>  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
>  {
> @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
>   case PSS:
>   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
>   case PPC:
> - return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
> + return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
> + (!ora_force);
>   }
>   }
>  
> @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
>  
>   if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
>   no_load = 1;
> + if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
> + ora_force = 1;
>   return 0;
>  }
>  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a "force" option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?

-- 
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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
 To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
 parameter
 
   intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or 
sun_force
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.

 For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
 try to get better performance with this driver.
 
 Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
 ---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
 
  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
 
 diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
 b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
 --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
 entirely omitted.
  disable
Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
scaling driver for the supported processors
 +ora_force
 +  Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
 +  only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
 capping
 +  capability working and try to get better performance 
 with this
 +  driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping capability
working mean, in particular?

  
   intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
   on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
 diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
 --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;
 +static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
  {
 @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
   case PSS:
   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
   case PPC:
 - return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
 + return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
 + (!ora_force);
   }
   }
  
 @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
   if (!strcmp(str, disable))
   no_load = 1;
 + if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
 + ora_force = 1;
   return 0;
  }
  early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?

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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Kristen Carlson Accardi
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
Rafael J. Wysocki r...@rjwysocki.net wrote:

 On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
  To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
  parameter
  
intel_pstate = ora_force
 
 I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or 
 sun_force
 for clarity.
 
 Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.
 
  For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
  try to get better performance with this driver.
  
  Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
  ---
   v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
   v4: refine code and doc.
   v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
   v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
  
   Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
   drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
  
  diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
  b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
  index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
  --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
  +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
  @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
  entirely omitted.
 disable
   Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
   scaling driver for the supported processors
  +  ora_force
  +Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
  +only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
  capping
  +capability working and try to get better performance 
  with this
  +driver.
 
 That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping 
 capability
 working mean, in particular?
 
   
  intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
  on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
  diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
  index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
  --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
  +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
  @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
   };
   
   static int __initdata no_load;
  +static unsigned int  ora_force;
   
   static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
   {
  @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
  intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
  case PSS:
  return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
  case PPC:
  -   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
  +   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
  +   (!ora_force);
  }
  }
   
  @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
   
  if (!strcmp(str, disable))
  no_load = 1;
  +   if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
  +   ora_force = 1;
  return 0;
   }
   early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);
 
 And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that 
 would
 work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?
 

That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Linda Knippers
On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
 Rafael J. Wysocki r...@rjwysocki.net wrote:
 
 On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
 To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
 parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

 I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or 
 sun_force
 for clarity.

 Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.

 For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
 try to get better performance with this driver.

 Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
 ---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

 diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
 b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
 --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
 entirely omitted.
disable
  Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
  scaling driver for the supported processors
 +  ora_force
 +Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
 +only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
 capping
 +capability working and try to get better performance 
 with this
 +driver.

 That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping 
 capability
 working mean, in particular?

  
 intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
 on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
 diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
 --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;
 +static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
  {
 @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
 intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
 case PSS:
 return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
 case PPC:
 -   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
 +   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
 +   (!ora_force);
 }
 }
  
 @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
 if (!strcmp(str, disable))
 no_load = 1;
 +   if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
 +   ora_force = 1;
 return 0;
  }
  early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);

 And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that 
 would
 work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?

 
 That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
 checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
 it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
 oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
 think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
when you have dueling power management.

The description would need to be different too since I think on
ProLiant, power capping can happen at any time, even if the
system is in OS control mode and the intel_pstate driver is
loaded.

Can anyone suggest a description for a force option that would
make sense generically?

-- ljk



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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Rafael J. Wysocki
On Thursday, December 04, 2014 06:03:05 PM Linda Knippers wrote:
 On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
  On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
  Rafael J. Wysocki r...@rjwysocki.net wrote:
  
  On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
  To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command 
  line
  parameter
 
intel_pstate = ora_force
 
  I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or 
  sun_force
  for clarity.
 
  Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.
 
  For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working 
  and
  try to get better performance with this driver.
 
  Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
  ---
   v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
   v4: refine code and doc.
   v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
   v7: change enum PCC to PPC.
 
   Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
   drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
 
  diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
  b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
  index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
  --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
  +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
  @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also 
  be entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
  +ora_force
  +  Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
  +  only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
  capping
  +  capability working and try to get better performance 
  with this
  +  driver.
 
  That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping 
  capability
  working mean, in particular?
 
   
intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
  diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c 
  b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
  index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
  --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
  +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
  @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
   };
   
   static int __initdata no_load;
  +static unsigned int  ora_force;
   
   static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
   {
  @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
  intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
  - return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
  + return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
  + (!ora_force);
}
}
   
  @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
   
if (!strcmp(str, disable))
no_load = 1;
  + if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
  + ora_force = 1;
return 0;
   }
   early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);
 
  And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that 
  would
  work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?
 
  
  That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
  checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
  it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
  oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
  think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.
 
 I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
 but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
 can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
 Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
 when you have dueling power management.
 
 The description would need to be different too since I think on
 ProLiant, power capping can happen at any time, even if the
 system is in OS control mode and the intel_pstate driver is
 loaded.
 
 Can anyone suggest a description for a force option that would
 make sense generically?

What about:

force
Enable intel_pstate on systems where it may cause problems to
happen due to conflicts with platform firmware attempting to
drive P-states by itself in certain situations (for thermal
control or power capping in general or other purposes).

-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.
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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread ethan zhao

Rafael,

On 2014/12/5 6:10, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or 
sun_force
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.
 oracle_force or sun_force doesn't sound bad to me, except it looks 
like a suggestion from
 Oracle or Sun. does it imply user to use it by default on Oracle 
boxes ?



For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping capability
working mean, in particular?
 That means we couldn't limit the power consumption of the host to what 
we want, in some cases, it
 possibly burn the fuse if the redundancy of power supply is not 
enough, that would stop service.


 Did I make it clear ?


 Thanks,
 Ethan


  
  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]

on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;

+static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)

  {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
  
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
  	if (!strcmp(str, disable))

no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
  }
  early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?



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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread ethan zhao

Kristen,

On 2014/12/5 6:38, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
Rafael J. Wysocki r...@rjwysocki.net wrote:


On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or 
sun_force
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.


For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping capability
working mean, in particular?

  
  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]

on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;

+static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)

  {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
  
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
  	if (!strcmp(str, disable))

no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
  }
  early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?


That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

  I am OK with a generic parameter.
  Anyway I hope there is a parameter to allow us load intel_pstate on 
Oracle boxes, specific to Oracle or generic.


  Thanks,
  Ethan

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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread ethan zhao

Linda,

On 2014/12/5 7:03, Linda Knippers wrote:

On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
Rafael J. Wysocki r...@rjwysocki.net wrote:


On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or 
sun_force
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.


For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping capability
working mean, in particular?

  
  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]

on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;

+static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)

  {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
  
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
  	if (!strcmp(str, disable))

no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
  }
  early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?


That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
when you have dueling power management.
  Most of the power management functions is done by SP(service 
processor) on Sun X86
  servers, the 'force' parameter is not supposed to disable whole 
platform working I think,
  with intel_pstate,  it doesn't do CPU power capping issued via _PPC 
notification. but all
 other rest parts of the power management still work. There is no scene 
as HP proliant OS
 mode that OS could control everything(sorry, I don't know Proliant 
Architecture).


 So at least, it doesn't make sense to Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide 
an OS option to stop

 all PM functions even disable ACPI at all.

 If the users could be aware of that the power capping doesn't work 
with CPUs. they could
 load intel_pstate driver, though there may be faulty in SP . they 
still could monitor and

 manage the power consumption of other parts in the server.

 Perhaps this is what we would test/have tested with intel_pstate.

 There is a public manual about PM command in Sun server SP may could 
help you to understand

 the  difference.
 https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19121-01/sf.x4150/820-6412-12/820-6412-12.pdf


The 

Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Linda Knippers
On 12/4/2014 9:05 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
 On Thursday, December 04, 2014 06:03:05 PM Linda Knippers wrote:
 On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
 Rafael J. Wysocki r...@rjwysocki.net wrote:

 On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
 To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command 
 line
 parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

 I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or 
 sun_force
 for clarity.

 Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.

 For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working 
 and
 try to get better performance with this driver.

 Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
 ---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

 diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
 b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
 --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also 
 be entirely omitted.
  disable
Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
scaling driver for the supported processors
 +ora_force
 +  Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
 +  only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
 capping
 +  capability working and try to get better performance 
 with this
 +  driver.

 That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping 
 capability
 working mean, in particular?

  
   intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
   on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
 diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c 
 b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
 --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;
 +static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
  {
 @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
 intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
   case PSS:
   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
   case PPC:
 - return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
 + return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
 + (!ora_force);
   }
   }
  
 @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
   if (!strcmp(str, disable))
   no_load = 1;
 + if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
 + ora_force = 1;
   return 0;
  }
  early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);

 And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that 
 would
 work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?


 That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
 checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
 it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
 oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
 think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

 I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
 but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
 can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
 Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
 when you have dueling power management.

 The description would need to be different too since I think on
 ProLiant, power capping can happen at any time, even if the
 system is in OS control mode and the intel_pstate driver is
 loaded.

 Can anyone suggest a description for a force option that would
 make sense generically?
 
 What about:
 
   force
   Enable intel_pstate on systems where it may cause problems to
   happen due to conflicts with platform firmware attempting to
   drive P-states by itself in certain situations (for thermal
   control or power capping in general or other purposes).

Except in the case of HP, it's not just for certain situations like for power
capping for thermal control.  If the BIOS is configured to manage the power,
it's going to constantly managing the power, just like the intel_pstate  driver
does.  It would be like running intel_pstate while also running
apci_cpufreq.   Is there ever a case where that makes sense?

I still don't understand the Oracle case.  Ethan seems to want to not load
the intel_state driver normally because 

Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread Linda Knippers

Hi Ethan,

On 12/4/2014 10:38 PM, ethan zhao wrote:
 Linda,
 
 On 2014/12/5 7:03, Linda Knippers wrote:
 On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
 Rafael J. Wysocki r...@rjwysocki.net wrote:

 On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:
 To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command 
 line
 parameter

intel_pstate = ora_force
 I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or
 sun_force
 for clarity.

 Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.

 For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working 
 and
 try to get better performance with this driver.

 Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
 ---
   v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
   v4: refine code and doc.
   v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
   v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

   Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
   drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

 diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
 --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
 @@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also 
 be
 entirely omitted.
  disable
Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
scaling driver for the supported processors
 +   ora_force
 + Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
 + only for those who be aware of the risk of no power capping
 + capability working and try to get better performance with 
 this
 + driver.
 That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping 
 capability
 working mean, in particular?

 intremap=[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
   onenable Interrupt Remapping (default)
 diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c 
 b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
 --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
 @@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
   };
 static int __initdata no_load;
 +static unsigned int  ora_force;
 static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
   {
 @@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool 
 intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
   case PSS:
   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
   case PPC:
 -return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
 +return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
 +(!ora_force);
   }
   }
   @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
 if (!strcmp(str, disable))
   no_load = 1;
 +if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
 +ora_force = 1;
   return 0;
   }
   early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);
 And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that 
 would
 work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?

 That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
 checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
 it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
 oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
 think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.
 I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
 but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
 can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
 Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
 when you have dueling power management.
   Most of the power management functions is done by SP(service processor) on 
 Sun
 X86
   servers, the 'force' parameter is not supposed to disable whole platform
 working I think,
   with intel_pstate,  it doesn't do CPU power capping issued via _PPC
 notification. but all
  other rest parts of the power management still work. There is no scene as HP
 proliant OS
  mode that OS could control everything(sorry, I don't know Proliant 
 Architecture).
 
  So at least, it doesn't make sense to Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide an OS
 option to stop
  all PM functions even disable ACPI at all.
 
  If the users could be aware of that the power capping doesn't work with CPUs.
 they could
  load intel_pstate driver, though there may be faulty in SP . they still could
 monitor and
  manage the power consumption of other parts in the server.
 
  Perhaps this is what we would test/have tested with intel_pstate.
 
  There is a public manual about PM command in Sun server SP may could help you
 to understand
  the  difference.
  https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19121-01/sf.x4150/820-6412-12/820-6412-12.pdf

I've tried to put the pieces together so tell me if 

Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-04 Thread ethan zhao

Linda,

On 2014/12/5 12:56, Linda Knippers wrote:

Hi Ethan,

On 12/4/2014 10:38 PM, ethan zhao wrote:

Linda,

On 2014/12/5 7:03, Linda Knippers wrote:

On 12/4/2014 5:38 PM, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:10:58 +0100
Rafael J. Wysocki r...@rjwysocki.net wrote:


On Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:07:31 AM Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

intel_pstate = ora_force

I would suggest to change the name of the option to oracle_force or
sun_force
for clarity.

Anyway, I need an ACK from Kristen if this patch is to be applied.


For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
---
   v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
   v4: refine code and doc.
   v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
   v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

   Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
   drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be
entirely omitted.
  disable
Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
scaling driver for the supported processors
+   ora_force
+ Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+ only for those who be aware of the risk of no power capping
+ capability working and try to get better performance with this
+ driver.

That is not sufficiently clear.  What does risk of no power capping capability
working mean, in particular?


 intremap=[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
   onenable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
   };
 static int __initdata no_load;
+static unsigned int  ora_force;
 static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
   {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
   case PSS:
   return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
   case PPC:
-return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
+(!ora_force);
   }
   }
   @@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
 if (!strcmp(str, disable))
   no_load = 1;
+if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
+ora_force = 1;
   return 0;
   }
   early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);

And can anyone please remind me what was wrong with a force option that would
work for everyone, not just Oracle/Sun?


That was my suggestion as well (i.e. a parameter to bypass the vendor
checks), but Linda didn't like it.  My personal opinion is that unless
it's generic, I don't really feel like having a force option solely for
oracle.  I'm not convinced you want this for production machines, and I
think for debug purposes I don't want a vendor specific param.

I'd be happy with it if it somehow disabled what the platform is doing,
but it doesn't.  I don't see the point of forcing intel_pstate if you
can't force the platform to stop doing power management at the same time.
Even if it's for test/debug purposes, I'm not sure what you're testing
when you have dueling power management.

   Most of the power management functions is done by SP(service processor) on 
Sun
X86
   servers, the 'force' parameter is not supposed to disable whole platform
working I think,
   with intel_pstate,  it doesn't do CPU power capping issued via _PPC
notification. but all
  other rest parts of the power management still work. There is no scene as HP
proliant OS
  mode that OS could control everything(sorry, I don't know Proliant 
Architecture).

  So at least, it doesn't make sense to Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide an OS
option to stop
  all PM functions even disable ACPI at all.

  If the users could be aware of that the power capping doesn't work with CPUs.
they could
  load intel_pstate driver, though there may be faulty in SP . they still could
monitor and
  manage the power consumption of other parts in the server.

  Perhaps this is what we would test/have tested with intel_pstate.

  There is a public manual about PM command in Sun server SP may could help you
to understand
  the  difference.
  https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19121-01/sf.x4150/820-6412-12/820-6412-12.pdf

I've tried to put the pieces together so tell me if I've got this right.
  

Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-03 Thread ethan zhao

Alexey has tested this patch on Lenovo machines. so

Tested-by: Alexey Kodanev 

On 2014/12/4 10:07, Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.
  
  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]

on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;

+static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)

  {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
  
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
  	if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))

no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
  }
  early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);


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[PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-03 Thread Ethan Zhao
To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

  intel_pstate = ora_force

For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao 
---
 v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
 v4: refine code and doc.
 v5: fix a typo in doc.
 v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

 Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
 drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
 2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.
 
intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
 };
 
 static int __initdata no_load;
+static unsigned int  ora_force;
 
 static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
 {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() &&
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
 
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
 
if (!strcmp(str, "disable"))
no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, "ora_force"))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
 }
 early_param("intel_pstate", intel_pstate_setup);
-- 
1.8.3.1

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[PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-03 Thread Ethan Zhao
To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

  intel_pstate = ora_force

For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
---
 v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
 v4: refine code and doc.
 v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
 v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

 Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
 drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
 2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.
 
intremap=   [X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]
on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
 };
 
 static int __initdata no_load;
+static unsigned int  ora_force;
 
 static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)
 {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
 
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
 
if (!strcmp(str, disable))
no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
 }
 early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);
-- 
1.8.3.1

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Re: [PATCH 2/2 V7] intel_pstate: add kernel parameter to force loading on Sun X86 servers.

2014-12-03 Thread ethan zhao

Alexey has tested this patch on Lenovo machines. so

Tested-by: Alexey Kodanev alexey.koda...@oracle.com

On 2014/12/4 10:07, Ethan Zhao wrote:

To force loading on Oracle Sun X86 servers, provide one kernel command line
parameter

   intel_pstate = ora_force

For those who be aware of the risk of no power capping capabily working and
try to get better performance with this driver.

Signed-off-by: Ethan Zhao ethan.z...@oracle.com
---
  v2: change to hardware vendor specific naming parameter.
  v4: refine code and doc.
  v5v6: fix a typo in doc.
  v7: change enum PCC to PPC.

  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt | 5 +
  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c  | 6 +-
  2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt 
b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
index 479f332..7d0983e 100644
--- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -1446,6 +1446,11 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be 
entirely omitted.
   disable
 Do not enable intel_pstate as the default
 scaling driver for the supported processors
+  ora_force
+Force loading intel_pstate on Oracle Sun Servers(X86).
+only for those who be aware of the risk of no power 
capping
+capability working and try to get better performance 
with this
+driver.
  
  	intremap=	[X86-64, Intel-IOMMU]

on  enable Interrupt Remapping (default)
diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
index 1bb62ca..2654e13 100644
--- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
+++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
@@ -866,6 +866,7 @@ static struct cpufreq_driver intel_pstate_driver = {
  };
  
  static int __initdata no_load;

+static unsigned int  ora_force;
  
  static int intel_pstate_msrs_not_valid(void)

  {
@@ -1003,7 +1004,8 @@ static bool intel_pstate_platform_pwr_mgmt_exists(void)
case PSS:
return intel_pstate_no_acpi_pss();
case PPC:
-   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc();
+   return intel_pstate_has_acpi_ppc() 
+   (!ora_force);
}
}
  
@@ -1078,6 +1080,8 @@ static int __init intel_pstate_setup(char *str)
  
  	if (!strcmp(str, disable))

no_load = 1;
+   if (!strcmp(str, ora_force))
+   ora_force = 1;
return 0;
  }
  early_param(intel_pstate, intel_pstate_setup);


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