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> This patch adds support for UTF-8 signatures (aka BOM, byte order
> mark) to binfmt_script. Files that start with EF BF FF # ! are now
> recognized as
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This patch adds support for UTF-8 signatures (aka BOM, byte order
mark) to binfmt_script. Files that start with EF BF FF # ! are now
recognized as scripts
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:55:54 +0100, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sul, 2005-08-14 at 15:59 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> > I know the alternatives are available. That doesn't make it any less
> > idiotic to use non ASCII characters as operators. I think it's a very
> > slippery slope.
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 08:00:31PM +, Lee Revell wrote:
> We write code in ASCII, dammit.
http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/2004-12.html#d.2004-12-03.0813 >
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>> > Thats great for the perl6 people.
>> > http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
>> > to be using « and » as operators...
>>
>> Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in a
>> long time. There's no easy way to enter those at the
Thats great for the perl6 people.
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
to be using « and » as operators...
Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in a
long time. There's no easy way to enter those at the keyboard!
I have
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 08:00:31PM +, Lee Revell wrote:
We write code in ASCII, dammit.
URL: http://www.madore.org/~david/weblog/2004-12.html#d.2004-12-03.0813
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 00:55:54 +0100, Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sul, 2005-08-14 at 15:59 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
I know the alternatives are available. That doesn't make it any less
idiotic to use non ASCII characters as operators. I think it's a very
slippery slope. We write
Lee Revell wrote:
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
Thats great for the perl6 people.
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
to be using « and » as operators...
Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in
Lee Revell wrote:
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
Thats great for the perl6 people.
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
to be using « and » as operators...
Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in
On Sul, 2005-08-14 at 15:59 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> I know the alternatives are available. That doesn't make it any less
> idiotic to use non ASCII characters as operators. I think it's a very
> slippery slope. We write code in ASCII, dammit.
Its a trivial patch and there is a lot to be
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:52:36 EDT, Kyle Moffett said:
> > Note that ?^ is functionally identical to !.?| differs from || in
> Since when is the string "!.?|" an operator???
I think that was supposed to read:
Note that ?^ is functionally identical to !.
?| differs from ?? in that ?| returns
Lee Revell wrote:
> For strings, of course. But there's no need for UTF-8 operators.
Indeed - this is the main rationale for the patch, of course. People
want to write non-ASCII in script primarily in string literals,
and (perhaps even more often) in comments. Now, for comments, it
wouldn't
On Aug 14, 2005, at 02:18:13, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
"LR" == Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
LR> Is Larry smoking crack?
From the Perl6-Bible: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Perl6-Bible/lib/
Perl6/Bible/S03.pod:
I think this confirms that the answer is yes. See the following at
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 13:13 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
> Seems like lots of Europeans might want a bigger
> charset, not to mention Asians, Hindus, and whomever else.
For strings, of course. But there's no need for UTF-8 operators.
Lee
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On 8/14/05, Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know the alternatives are available. That doesn't make it any less
> idiotic to use non ASCII characters as operators. I think it's a very
> slippery slope. We write code in ASCII, dammit.
Yes you and I might write 99.9% of our code in
Previously Lee Revell wrote:
> My point exactly, it's idiotic for Perl6 to use these as OPERATORS, the
> atoms of the language, when there's not even a platform independent way
> to type them in.
I anyone had bothered to read the URL in one of the earlier emails you
would have seen that '<<' is
> "LR" == Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
LR> Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard
LR> in a long time. There's no easy way to enter those at the
LR> keyboard!
I know folks enjoy trashing Perl these days, but it's not justified in
this case. From the
LR == Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LR Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard
LR in a long time. There's no easy way to enter those at the
LR keyboard!
I know folks enjoy trashing Perl these days, but it's not justified in
this case. From the Perl6-Bible -
Previously Lee Revell wrote:
My point exactly, it's idiotic for Perl6 to use these as OPERATORS, the
atoms of the language, when there's not even a platform independent way
to type them in.
I anyone had bothered to read the URL in one of the earlier emails you
would have seen that '' is an
On 8/14/05, Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know the alternatives are available. That doesn't make it any less
idiotic to use non ASCII characters as operators. I think it's a very
slippery slope. We write code in ASCII, dammit.
Yes you and I might write 99.9% of our code in good'ol
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 13:13 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
Seems like lots of Europeans might want a bigger
charset, not to mention Asians, Hindus, and whomever else.
For strings, of course. But there's no need for UTF-8 operators.
Lee
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On Aug 14, 2005, at 02:18:13, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
LR == Lee Revell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LR Is Larry smoking crack?
From the Perl6-Bible: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Perl6-Bible/lib/
Perl6/Bible/S03.pod:
I think this confirms that the answer is yes. See the following at
the
Lee Revell wrote:
For strings, of course. But there's no need for UTF-8 operators.
Indeed - this is the main rationale for the patch, of course. People
want to write non-ASCII in script primarily in string literals,
and (perhaps even more often) in comments. Now, for comments, it
wouldn't
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 17:52:36 EDT, Kyle Moffett said:
Note that ?^ is functionally identical to !.?| differs from || in
Since when is the string !.?| an operator???
I think that was supposed to read:
Note that ?^ is functionally identical to !.
?| differs from ?? in that ?| returns (and
On Sul, 2005-08-14 at 15:59 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
I know the alternatives are available. That doesn't make it any less
idiotic to use non ASCII characters as operators. I think it's a very
slippery slope. We write code in ASCII, dammit.
Its a trivial patch and there is a lot to be said
> "Alan" == Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alan> The command line console mappings may not include them by
Alan> default (you can obviously add them if your keyboard lacks
Alan> them). The X keyboard however does include compose functionality
Alan> for » and « and many other symbols
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 21:19 -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote:
> And those of us who are Mac OS X oriented have patched our console and
> X keycodes to match the mac way of generating symbols:
>
> Alt-\= «
> Alt-Shift-\ = »
> Alt-Shift-+ = ±
>
My point exactly, it's idiotic for Perl6 to use
On Aug 13, 2005, at 20:57:45, Alan Cox wrote:
I have "setxkbmap -symbols 'en_US(pc102)+gb'" in my ~/.xsession,
and « and » are available as AltGr-z and AltGr-x respectively.
Most keyboards don't have an AltGr key.
You must be an American. Most old the worlds keyboards have an AltGr
key.
> >I have "setxkbmap -symbols 'en_US(pc102)+gb'" in my ~/.xsession,
> > and « and » are available as AltGr-z and AltGr-x respectively.
>
> Most keyboards don't have an AltGr key.
You must be an American. Most old the worlds keyboards have an AltGr
key. You'll find that US keyboards have two
On Sad, 2005-08-13 at 14:42 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in a
> long time. There's no easy way to enter those at the keyboard!
The command line console mappings may not include them by default (you
can obviously add them if your
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 19:49 +0100, Hugo Mills wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 02:42:52PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
> > > Thats great for the perl6 people.
> > > http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
> > >
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 19:49 +0100, Hugo Mills wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 02:42:52PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
> > > Thats great for the perl6 people.
> > > http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
> > >
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 02:42:52PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
> > Thats great for the perl6 people.
> > http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
> > to be using « and » as operators...
>
> Is Larry smoking
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
> Thats great for the perl6 people.
> http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
> to be using « and » as operators...
Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in a
long time. There's no
On 8/13/05, "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This patch adds support for UTF-8 signatures (aka BOM, byte order
> mark) to binfmt_script.
> With such support, creating scripts that reliably carry non-ASCII
> characters is simplified.
> the approach would naturally extend to Perl to
This patch adds support for UTF-8 signatures (aka BOM, byte order
mark) to binfmt_script. Files that start with EF BF FF # ! are now
recognized as scripts (in addition to files starting with # !).
With such support, creating scripts that reliably carry non-ASCII
characters is simplified. Editors
This patch adds support for UTF-8 signatures (aka BOM, byte order
mark) to binfmt_script. Files that start with EF BF FF # ! are now
recognized as scripts (in addition to files starting with # !).
With such support, creating scripts that reliably carry non-ASCII
characters is simplified. Editors
On 8/13/05, Martin v. Löwis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This patch adds support for UTF-8 signatures (aka BOM, byte order
mark) to binfmt_script.
With such support, creating scripts that reliably carry non-ASCII
characters is simplified.
the approach would naturally extend to Perl to
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
Thats great for the perl6 people.
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
to be using « and » as operators...
Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in a
long time. There's no
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 02:42:52PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
Thats great for the perl6 people.
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
to be using « and » as operators...
Is Larry smoking crack? That's
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 19:49 +0100, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 02:42:52PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
Thats great for the perl6 people.
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
to be using
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 19:49 +0100, Hugo Mills wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2005 at 02:42:52PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:35 -0700, Stephen Pollei wrote:
Thats great for the perl6 people.
http://dev.perl.org/perl6/doc/design/syn/S03.html says they are going
to be using
On Sad, 2005-08-13 at 14:42 -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
Is Larry smoking crack? That's one of the worst ideas I've heard in a
long time. There's no easy way to enter those at the keyboard!
The command line console mappings may not include them by default (you
can obviously add them if your
I have setxkbmap -symbols 'en_US(pc102)+gb' in my ~/.xsession,
and « and » are available as AltGr-z and AltGr-x respectively.
Most keyboards don't have an AltGr key.
You must be an American. Most old the worlds keyboards have an AltGr
key. You'll find that US keyboards have two alt keys
On Aug 13, 2005, at 20:57:45, Alan Cox wrote:
I have setxkbmap -symbols 'en_US(pc102)+gb' in my ~/.xsession,
and « and » are available as AltGr-z and AltGr-x respectively.
Most keyboards don't have an AltGr key.
You must be an American. Most old the worlds keyboards have an AltGr
key.
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 21:19 -0400, Kyle Moffett wrote:
And those of us who are Mac OS X oriented have patched our console and
X keycodes to match the mac way of generating symbols:
Alt-\= «
Alt-Shift-\ = »
Alt-Shift-+ = ±
My point exactly, it's idiotic for Perl6 to use these as
Alan == Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Alan The command line console mappings may not include them by
Alan default (you can obviously add them if your keyboard lacks
Alan them). The X keyboard however does include compose functionality
Alan for » and « and many other symbols that might be
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