Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-06 Thread Ronald Bultje
Hi all, On 05 Jul 2001 13:45:23 -0700, Peter A. Castro wrote: > Each OS allocates the physical memory differently. MS-Windows typically > allocates physical memory sequentually. Linux tends to uses both ends of > the memory pool. For a proper test, you need to load enough programs so > that

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-06 Thread Ronald Bultje
Hi all, On 05 Jul 2001 13:45:23 -0700, Peter A. Castro wrote: Each OS allocates the physical memory differently. MS-Windows typically allocates physical memory sequentually. Linux tends to uses both ends of the memory pool. For a proper test, you need to load enough programs so that all

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Peter A. Castro
On 4 Jul 2001, Ronald Bultje wrote: > Hi, Hi back at you :-) > you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems > where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with > 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still > have this

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Gary White (Network Administrator)
Hmm, I have no problems either. Asus KT7 KT133 Chipset root@station2-lnx:~# uname -a Linux station2-lnx 2.4.6 #10 Thu Jul 5 11:08:39 CDT 2001 i686 unknown root@station2-lnx:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:512944 509888

RE: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Don Krause
> Can someone please > point out to me > that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with > more than 128 > MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability problems? > And can that same person PLEASE point out to me why 2.4.x is > crashing on > me (or help me to find out...)? %uname -a

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Bill Pringlemeir
> "Ragnar" == Ragnar Hojland Espinosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ragnar> And here's a counter claim: At home have 128 + 64, both of Ragnar> different speeds and brands. Of course, to run properly you Ragnar> have to force the pc100 to run at 66, but other than that Ragnar> they're

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Reza Roboubi
Ronald Bultje wrote: > No, it's the installation so I'm booting from the CD (mdk-8/RH-7.1 > installation CDs). Your cd might be corrupted. If you are using the same cd for both machines, try changing it. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread D. Stimits
Ronald Bultje wrote: > > On 04 Jul 2001 17:29:12 -0400, Chris Siebenmann wrote: > > You write: > > | I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in > > | my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me > > | that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Ronald Bultje
On 05 Jul 2001 01:40:47 -0700, Reza Roboubi wrote: > You have dual boot machines(right?) Which boot loader are you using to boot > linux? Could this be related to the boot loader messing up the initial state > of the machine? No, it's the installation so I'm booting from the CD (mdk-8/RH-7.1

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Chris Bacott
> So this leads to the conclusion that the memory is okay, and that > something else must be the problem Could it still be a failing power > supply or something? It seems both computers have a 230 W power supply. > Might be a problem, I guess, I can buy a 400 W thingy if that makes >

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Reza Roboubi
Ronald Bultje wrote: > I ran memtest tonight on all machines > It gave 0 errors on all of them. You have dual boot machines(right?) Which boot loader are you using to boot linux? Could this be related to the boot loader messing up the initial state of the machine? - To unsubscribe

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread StarTux
>> > >I ran memtest tonight on all machines >It gave 0 errors on all of them. > >So this leads to the conclusion that the memory is okay, and that >something else must be the problem Could it still be a failing power >supply or something? It seems both computers have a 230 W

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 11:16:43PM -0400, Bill Pringlemeir wrote: > I also have had problems with a machine that had 128Mb + 64 Mb. I > discovered the following about 2.4.x. You _should_ have a swap file > that is double RAM. Mixing different SDRAM types is probably a bad > thing. So if you

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Ronald Bultje
On 04 Jul 2001 17:29:12 -0400, Chris Siebenmann wrote: > You write: > | I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in > | my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me > | that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 >

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Ronald Bultje
On 04 Jul 2001 17:29:12 -0400, Chris Siebenmann wrote: You write: | I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in | my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me | that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 | MB

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread StarTux
snip I ran memtest tonight on all machines It gave 0 errors on all of them. So this leads to the conclusion that the memory is okay, and that something else must be the problem Could it still be a failing power supply or something? It seems both computers have a 230 W power

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Reza Roboubi
Ronald Bultje wrote: I ran memtest tonight on all machines It gave 0 errors on all of them. You have dual boot machines(right?) Which boot loader are you using to boot linux? Could this be related to the boot loader messing up the initial state of the machine? - To unsubscribe from

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Chris Bacott
So this leads to the conclusion that the memory is okay, and that something else must be the problem Could it still be a failing power supply or something? It seems both computers have a 230 W power supply. Might be a problem, I guess, I can buy a 400 W thingy if that makes sense.

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Ronald Bultje
On 05 Jul 2001 01:40:47 -0700, Reza Roboubi wrote: You have dual boot machines(right?) Which boot loader are you using to boot linux? Could this be related to the boot loader messing up the initial state of the machine? No, it's the installation so I'm booting from the CD (mdk-8/RH-7.1

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread D. Stimits
Ronald Bultje wrote: On 04 Jul 2001 17:29:12 -0400, Chris Siebenmann wrote: You write: | I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in | my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me | that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Reza Roboubi
Ronald Bultje wrote: No, it's the installation so I'm booting from the CD (mdk-8/RH-7.1 installation CDs). Your cd might be corrupted. If you are using the same cd for both machines, try changing it. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a

RE: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Don Krause
Can someone please point out to me that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability problems? And can that same person PLEASE point out to me why 2.4.x is crashing on me (or help me to find out...)? %uname -a Linux

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Gary White (Network Administrator)
Hmm, I have no problems either. Asus KT7 KT133 Chipset root@station2-lnx:~# uname -a Linux station2-lnx 2.4.6 #10 Thu Jul 5 11:08:39 CDT 2001 i686 unknown root@station2-lnx:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:512944 509888

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Peter A. Castro
On 4 Jul 2001, Ronald Bultje wrote: Hi, Hi back at you :-) you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still have this

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 11:16:43PM -0400, Bill Pringlemeir wrote: I also have had problems with a machine that had 128Mb + 64 Mb. I discovered the following about 2.4.x. You _should_ have a swap file that is double RAM. Mixing different SDRAM types is probably a bad thing. So if you

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-05 Thread Bill Pringlemeir
Ragnar == Ragnar Hojland Espinosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ragnar And here's a counter claim: At home have 128 + 64, both of Ragnar different speeds and brands. Of course, to run properly you Ragnar have to force the pc100 to run at 66, but other than that Ragnar they're happy (96MB swap)

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Bill Pringlemeir
>> I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY >> machine in my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone >> please point out to me Alan> Can I suggest you change your memory vendor and/or get an Alan> antistatic wrist strap ? I also have had problems with a machine

RE: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread George Bonser
> > Nobody has answered a basic concern: > Why does Win2k work while Linux does not? The answer could be as simple as the fact that Linux might be trying to write to the exact memory location that is bad but Win2k has not. It might also be that he in fact DOES have problems with win2k but is

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Charles Cazabon
Reza Roboubi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody has answered a basic concern: > Why does Win2k work while Linux does not? I did post a possible answer for this: different OSes excercise the memory subsystem very differently. This is why a box might run (say) Win95 apparently stably, but not

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Reza Roboubi
Nobody has answered a basic concern: Why does Win2k work while Linux does not? We already know that MiciSoft sometimes helps make stupid standards like P ISA cards and then writes drivers for them. Something that is hard to do for any _sane_ developers who did not help make the stupid

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Peter Bornemann
Yes, I have an Athlon 700 on a Asus/K7V motherboard with 256 MB PC 133 RAM. Never had any problem with this configuration. Before that, however, there was an Pentium 120 with 64 MB RAM. This one used to crash during kernel-compiles due to an overheated processor. Really funny. Later I got

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread D. Stimits
Ronald Bultje wrote: > > Hi, > > you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems > where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with > 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still > have this problem, so I am running with 128

RE: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Ronald Bultje
On 04 Jul 2001 17:06:51 -0300, Alessandro Motter Ren wrote: > > Which filesystem are you using on this machine? > []s. ext2 -- Ronald - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

RE: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread George Bonser
> From: Alessandro Motter Ren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Which filesystem are you using on this machine? > []s. > ext2fs on the production farm but I also have a pair of machines (SMB P-III 800) using reiserfs on mail spools. That pair of machines is not particularly busy,

RE: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Alessandro Motter Ren
Which filesystem are you using on this machine? []s. -Original Message- From: George Bonser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:06 PM To: Ronald Bultje; Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: RE: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again) > I'

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On 4 Jul 2001, Ronald Bultje wrote: > Hi, > > you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems > where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with > 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still > have this problem, so I am

RE: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread George Bonser
> I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in > my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me > that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 > MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability problems? Running

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread William Scott Lockwood III
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again) > > I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in > > my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out t

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread mark
Asus K7V here, 800 MHz Athlon oc to 880 MHz, 256 Mb, occasional XFree86 lockups, otherwise stable with almost any of the v2.4.x series including -ac variants and the testing kernels. Right now 2.4.6-pre5, doing fine. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Alan Cox
> I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in > my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me Can I suggest you change your memory vendor and/or get an antistatic wrist strap ? > that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Charles Cazabon
Ronald Bultje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems > where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with > 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still > have this problem, so I am

Re: >128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread J Sloan
Ronald Bultje wrote: > I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in > my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me > that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 > MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability

>128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Ronald Bultje
Hi, you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still have this problem, so I am running with 128 MB RAM again. I've been running

128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Ronald Bultje
Hi, you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still have this problem, so I am running with 128 MB RAM again. I've been running

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread J Sloan
Ronald Bultje wrote: I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Charles Cazabon
Ronald Bultje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still have this problem, so I am running with

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread mark
Asus K7V here, 800 MHz Athlon oc to 880 MHz, 256 Mb, occasional XFree86 lockups, otherwise stable with almost any of the v2.4.x series including -ac variants and the testing kernels. Right now 2.4.6-pre5, doing fine. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread William Scott Lockwood III
, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again) I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me Can I suggest you change your memory vendor and/or get an antistatic wrist strap

RE: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread George Bonser
I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more than 128 MB RAM and that he's NOT having severe stability problems? Running 2.4.6-pre

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker
On 4 Jul 2001, Ronald Bultje wrote: Hi, you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still have this problem, so I am running

RE: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Alessandro Motter Ren
Which filesystem are you using on this machine? []s. -Original Message- From: George Bonser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 5:06 PM To: Ronald Bultje; Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: RE: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again) I'm kind

RE: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread George Bonser
From: Alessandro Motter Ren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Which filesystem are you using on this machine? []s. ext2fs on the production farm but I also have a pair of machines (SMB P-III 800) using reiserfs on mail spools. That pair of machines is not particularly busy, though.

RE: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Ronald Bultje
On 04 Jul 2001 17:06:51 -0300, Alessandro Motter Ren wrote: Which filesystem are you using on this machine? []s. ext2 -- Ronald - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread D. Stimits
Ronald Bultje wrote: Hi, you might remember an e-mail from me (two weeks ago) with my problems where linux would not boot up or be highly instable on a machine with 256 MB RAM, while it was 100% stable with 128 MB RAM. Basically, I still have this problem, so I am running with 128 MB RAM

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Peter Bornemann
Yes, I have an Athlon 700 on a Asus/K7V motherboard with 256 MB PC 133 RAM. Never had any problem with this configuration. Before that, however, there was an Pentium 120 with 64 MB RAM. This one used to crash during kernel-compiles due to an overheated processor. Really funny. Later I got

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Reza Roboubi
Nobody has answered a basic concern: Why does Win2k work while Linux does not? We already know that MiciSoft sometimes helps make stupid standards like PP ISA cards and then writes drivers for them. Something that is hard to do for any _sane_ developers who did not help make the stupid

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Charles Cazabon
Reza Roboubi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody has answered a basic concern: Why does Win2k work while Linux does not? I did post a possible answer for this: different OSes excercise the memory subsystem very differently. This is why a box might run (say) Win95 apparently stably, but not be

RE: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread George Bonser
Nobody has answered a basic concern: Why does Win2k work while Linux does not? The answer could be as simple as the fact that Linux might be trying to write to the exact memory location that is bad but Win2k has not. It might also be that he in fact DOES have problems with win2k but is

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Alan Cox
I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me Can I suggest you change your memory vendor and/or get an antistatic wrist strap ? that he's actually running kernel-2.4.x on a machine with more

Re: 128 MB RAM stability problems (again)

2001-07-04 Thread Bill Pringlemeir
I'm kind of astounded now, WHY can't linux-2.4.x run on ANY machine in my house with more than 128 MB RAM?!? Can someone please point out to me Alan Can I suggest you change your memory vendor and/or get an Alan antistatic wrist strap ? I also have had problems with a machine that had