Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > Jeff Garzik wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > > > I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables > > > over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on > > > immediately. > > > > > > Would

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > James Sutherland wrote: > > > That would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old hub > > > (which obviously doesn't support full-duplex). > > > > No, it would just prevent your card working. Large numbers of collisions > > are normal

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Roeland Th. Jansen
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:40:53AM +0100, Rogier Wolff wrote: > Why would it completely "not work"? experience maybe. telnet works just fine. a copy would end in a _very_ slow transfer. and if I say slow, I mean a few kbytes/sec. depends on the number of colls as well. besides, what gains are

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Alan Cox
> Would this mean that the driver/card already were in full-duplex? That > would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old hub (which > obviously doesn't support full-duplex). Most likely it means they were set to autonegotiate - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Rogier Wolff
Jeff Garzik wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > > I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables > > over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on > > immediately. > > > > Would this mean that the driver/card already were in

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables > over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on > immediately. > > Would this mean that the driver/card already were in full-duplex? That > would explain me

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Rogier Wolff
James Sutherland wrote: > > That would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old hub > > (which obviously doesn't support full-duplex). > > No, it would just prevent your card working. Large numbers of collisions > are normal during fast transfers across a hub. Why would it

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables > over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on > immediately. That's what you would expect: they will auto-negotiate full duplex, in the same

8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Rogier Wolff
Hi All, I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on immediately. Would this mean that the driver/card already were in full-duplex? That would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old

8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Rogier Wolff
Hi All, I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on immediately. Would this mean that the driver/card already were in full-duplex? That would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: Hi All, I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on immediately. That's what you would expect: they will auto-negotiate full duplex, in the same way

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Rogier Wolff
James Sutherland wrote: That would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old hub (which obviously doesn't support full-duplex). No, it would just prevent your card working. Large numbers of collisions are normal during fast transfers across a hub. Why would it completely "not

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Jeff Garzik
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on immediately. Would this mean that the driver/card already were in full-duplex? That would explain me seeing

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Rogier Wolff
Jeff Garzik wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on immediately. Would this mean that the driver/card already were in full-duplex? That

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Alan Cox
Would this mean that the driver/card already were in full-duplex? That would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old hub (which obviously doesn't support full-duplex). Most likely it means they were set to autonegotiate - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread Roeland Th. Jansen
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:40:53AM +0100, Rogier Wolff wrote: Why would it completely "not work"? experience maybe. telnet works just fine. a copy would end in a _very_ slow transfer. and if I say slow, I mean a few kbytes/sec. depends on the number of colls as well. besides, what gains are

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: James Sutherland wrote: That would explain me seeing way too many collisions on that old hub (which obviously doesn't support full-duplex). No, it would just prevent your card working. Large numbers of collisions are normal during fast

Re: 8139 full duplex?

2001-02-16 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: Jeff Garzik wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Rogier Wolff wrote: I have a bunch of computers with 8139 cards. When I moved the cables over from my hub to my new switch all the "full duplex" lights came on immediately. Would this mean that the