Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-18 Thread Hubert Mantel
Hi, On Wed, Sep 13, David S. Miller wrote: > It's an especially amusing situation especially since no vendor has > shipped a distribution without the raid patches applied to their > kernel for almost 2 years now. You have a very interesting definition of "no vendor". > Later, > David S.

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-18 Thread Hubert Mantel
Hi, On Wed, Sep 13, David S. Miller wrote: It's an especially amusing situation especially since no vendor has shipped a distribution without the raid patches applied to their kernel for almost 2 years now. You have a very interesting definition of "no vendor". Later, David S. Miller

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-15 Thread Andreas Bombe
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 05:31:17PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: > On 13 Sep 2000, Ralf Gerbig wrote: > > > * Chip Salzenberg writes: > > > > Hi Chip, > > > > > According to Ralf Gerbig: > > >> but SuSe and I believe RedHat etc. etc. _do_ ship patched kernels. > > > > > You've just made

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-15 Thread Andreas Bombe
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 05:31:17PM -0400, Richard B. Johnson wrote: On 13 Sep 2000, Ralf Gerbig wrote: * Chip Salzenberg writes: Hi Chip, According to Ralf Gerbig: but SuSe and I believe RedHat etc. etc. _do_ ship patched kernels. You've just made L-K's understatement of

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > According to Andre Hedrick: > So I've noticed. Do you not believe in its technical future, or are > you just conserving what's left of your free time? I would be attending an ice skating party below before I would see this included, and I am short

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On 13 Sep 2000, Ralf Gerbig wrote: > * Chip Salzenberg writes: > > Hi Chip, > > > According to Ralf Gerbig: > >> but SuSe and I believe RedHat etc. etc. _do_ ship patched kernels. > > > You've just made L-K's understatement of the day. > > [...] > > so I rest my case vs shrink wrap. >

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Ralf Gerbig
* Chip Salzenberg writes: Hi Chip, > According to Ralf Gerbig: >> but SuSe and I believe RedHat etc. etc. _do_ ship patched kernels. > You've just made L-K's understatement of the day. [...] so I rest my case vs shrink wrap. OTOH one of the first things I do after trying a new distribution

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Alan Cox
> > Solve that and the tool back compatibility problem for the cases in > > question in a way Ingo is happy with and Raid 0.90 can go in. Simple > > as that. > > Apply the RAID 0.90 patch and make Ingo (or someone else) > maintain a patch which backs it out. 2.2 out of the box has to stay back

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: > > [1] I understand the RAID issue with disk format compatibility, which > > makes the current RAID patch unacceptable for official 2.2 usage. > > I just wish somebody would *solve* that issue.[2] > Solve that and the tool back compatibility problem

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > that reducing it isn't worthwhile. The more de facto standard patches > (*cough* NFS RAID[1] HedrickIDE *ahem*) can get into the 2.2 tree, the > easier it will be for everyone to stay up to date, and the less effort > will be wasted on basically

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Alan Cox
> [1] I understand the RAID issue with disk format compatibility, which > makes the current RAID patch unacceptable for official 2.2 usage. > I just wish somebody would *solve* that issue.[2] > [2] Having complained about a problem, have I just volunteered myself > to solve it?

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:08:04 -0700 From: Chip Salzenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1] I understand the RAID issue with disk format compatibility, which makes the current RAID patch unacceptable for official 2.2 usage. I just wish somebody would *solve* that issue.[2]

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Ralf Gerbig: > but SuSe and I believe RedHat etc. etc. _do_ ship patched kernels. You've just made L-K's understatement of the day. VA has always shipped a patched kernel. As of a few weeks ago, I'm VA's new kernel coordinator. We're not quite done with the current internal

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Alan Cox
[1] I understand the RAID issue with disk format compatibility, which makes the current RAID patch unacceptable for official 2.2 usage. I just wish somebody would *solve* that issue.[2] [2] Having complained about a problem, have I just volunteered myself to solve it? (HHOS)

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Matthew Kirkwood
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Alan Cox wrote: [1] I understand the RAID issue with disk format compatibility, which makes the current RAID patch unacceptable for official 2.2 usage. I just wish somebody would *solve* that issue.[2] Solve that and the tool back compatibility problem for

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Ralf Gerbig
* Chip Salzenberg writes: Hi Chip, According to Ralf Gerbig: but SuSe and I believe RedHat etc. etc. _do_ ship patched kernels. You've just made L-K's understatement of the day. [...] so I rest my case vs shrink wrap. OTOH one of the first things I do after trying a new distribution is

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On 13 Sep 2000, Ralf Gerbig wrote: * Chip Salzenberg writes: Hi Chip, According to Ralf Gerbig: but SuSe and I believe RedHat etc. etc. _do_ ship patched kernels. You've just made L-K's understatement of the day. [...] so I rest my case vs shrink wrap. Yep. I installed

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread Andre Hedrick
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Chip Salzenberg wrote: According to Andre Hedrick: So I've noticed. Do you not believe in its technical future, or are you just conserving what's left of your free time? I would be attending an ice skating party below before I would see this included, and I am short on

Re: Distro kernel patches (was Re: Linux 2.2.18pre4)

2000-09-13 Thread David S. Miller
Date:Wed, 13 Sep 2000 06:08:04 -0700 From: Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] I understand the RAID issue with disk format compatibility, which makes the current RAID patch unacceptable for official 2.2 usage. I just wish somebody would *solve* that issue.[2]