Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-02-08 00:20, David Newall wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Note that because the hardware is old, it's highly likely that most of it will be retired before that sk98lin driver needs a change. I can't see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread David Newall
Arjan van de Ven wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Note that because the hardware is old, it's highly likely that most >> of it will be retired before that sk98lin driver needs a change. I >> can't see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less >> contentious to let the hardware (or

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:24:43AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > >Note that because the hardware is old, it's highly likely that most of > >it will be retired before that sk98lin driver needs a change. I can't > >see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Bill Davidsen wrote: Note that because the hardware is old, it's highly likely that most of it will be retired before that sk98lin driver needs a change. I can't see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less contentious to let the hardware (or users) die of natural causes if

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
Stephen Hemminger wrote: Ping? What: sk98lin network driver When: Feburary 2008 Why:In kernel tree version of driver is unmaintained. Sk98lin driver replaced by the skge driver. Who:Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- We have been over this

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:24:43AM -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Note that because the hardware is old, it's highly likely that most of it will be retired before that sk98lin driver needs a change. I can't see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Davidsen
Stephen Hemminger wrote: Ping? What: sk98lin network driver When: Feburary 2008 Why:In kernel tree version of driver is unmaintained. Sk98lin driver replaced by the skge driver. Who:Stephen Hemminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- We have been over this

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Bill Davidsen wrote: Note that because the hardware is old, it's highly likely that most of it will be retired before that sk98lin driver needs a change. I can't see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less contentious to let the hardware (or users) die of natural causes if

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread David Newall
Arjan van de Ven wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Note that because the hardware is old, it's highly likely that most of it will be retired before that sk98lin driver needs a change. I can't see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less contentious to let the hardware (or users)

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-14 Thread Rene Herman
On 15-02-08 00:20, David Newall wrote: Arjan van de Ven wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Note that because the hardware is old, it's highly likely that most of it will be retired before that sk98lin driver needs a change. I can't see anyone using sk98lin on a new system, so it would be less

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-13 Thread Stephen Hemminger
> > > Ping? > > What: sk98lin network driver > > When: Feburary 2008 > > Why:In kernel tree version of driver is unmaintained. Sk98lin driver > > replaced by the skge driver. > > Who:Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > --- > > We have been

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Harvey Harrison wrote: What: CONFIG_FORCED_INLINING When: June 2006 Why:Config option is there to see if gcc is good enough. (in january 2006). If it is, the behavior should just be the default. If it's not, the option should just go away entirely. Who:Arjan van de

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-13 Thread Stephen Hemminger
Ping? What: sk98lin network driver When: Feburary 2008 Why:In kernel tree version of driver is unmaintained. Sk98lin driver replaced by the skge driver. Who:Stephen Hemminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- We have been over this several times,

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Harvey Harrison wrote: What: CONFIG_FORCED_INLINING When: June 2006 Why:Config option is there to see if gcc is good enough. (in january 2006). If it is, the behavior should just be the default. If it's not, the option should just go away entirely. Who:Arjan van de

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25 - old NCR53C9x driver

2008-02-03 Thread Boaz Harrosh
On Fri, Feb 01 2008 at 3:38 +0200, Harvey Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The following are entries in feature-removal-schedule.txt that have > come due. Please change the subject when replying to specific items. > > Where I've gotten responses from the named person in the file, I've >

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25 - old NCR53C9x driver

2008-02-03 Thread Boaz Harrosh
On Fri, Feb 01 2008 at 3:38 +0200, Harvey Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following are entries in feature-removal-schedule.txt that have come due. Please change the subject when replying to specific items. Where I've gotten responses from the named person in the file, I've included

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-01 Thread Nick Piggin
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 05:38:42PM -0800, Harvey Harrison wrote: > --- > Ping? > What: vm_ops.nopage > When: Soon, provided in-kernel callers have been converted > Why: This interface is replaced by vm_ops.fault, but it has been around > forever, is used by a lot of

Re: Removing dev.power.power_state (WAS: Feature Removals for 2.6.25)

2008-02-01 Thread David Brownell
On Friday 01 February 2008, Alan Stern wrote: > > I can look at the USB and SCSI stuff. It shouldn't be all that bad. > The userspace interface has been gone for quite some time now, and most > of the remaining uses of that field are write-only. It's that "most" which can make trouble. :) -

Re: Removing dev.power.power_state (WAS: Feature Removals for 2.6.25)

2008-02-01 Thread David Brownell
On Thursday 31 January 2008, David Brownell wrote: > Quoth Harvey Harrison: > > > Ping? > > What: dev->power.power_state > > When: July 2007 > > ... there are still quite a few users left, and a new one was (sigh) > recently added. > > - drivers/rtc/rtc-sa1100.c ... new usage,

Re: Removing dev.power.power_state (WAS: Feature Removals for 2.6.25)

2008-02-01 Thread Alan Stern
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, David Brownell wrote: > Quoth Harvey Harrison: > > > Ping? > > What: dev->power.power_state > > When: July 2007 > > Why:Broken design for runtime control over driver power states, > > confusing > > driver-internal runtime power management with:

Re: Removing dev.power.power_state (WAS: Feature Removals for 2.6.25)

2008-02-01 Thread Alan Stern
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, David Brownell wrote: Quoth Harvey Harrison: Ping? What: dev-power.power_state When: July 2007 Why:Broken design for runtime control over driver power states, confusing driver-internal runtime power management with: mechanisms to

Re: Removing dev.power.power_state (WAS: Feature Removals for 2.6.25)

2008-02-01 Thread David Brownell
On Thursday 31 January 2008, David Brownell wrote: Quoth Harvey Harrison: Ping? What: dev-power.power_state When: July 2007 ... there are still quite a few users left, and a new one was (sigh) recently added. - drivers/rtc/rtc-sa1100.c ... new usage, merged last week

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-02-01 Thread Nick Piggin
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 05:38:42PM -0800, Harvey Harrison wrote: --- Ping? What: vm_ops.nopage When: Soon, provided in-kernel callers have been converted Why: This interface is replaced by vm_ops.fault, but it has been around forever, is used by a lot of

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Stephen Hemminger
> Ping? > What: sk98lin network driver > When: Feburary 2008 > Why:In kernel tree version of driver is unmaintained. Sk98lin driver > replaced by the skge driver. > Who:Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent a removal patch to Jeff, it probably was too big for the

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Harvey Harrison
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 22:33 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > Harvey Harrison wrote: > > Something like the following (grep found me two example symbols) > > to be honest, nobody reads this file with such detail; the actual UNUSED > marking > is a lot more louder and people are more likely to

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Harvey Harrison wrote: Something like the following (grep found me two example symbols) to be honest, nobody reads this file with such detail; the actual UNUSED marking is a lot more louder and people are more likely to notice those for all I care we nuke the entire entry from the

Removing dev.power.power_state (WAS: Feature Removals for 2.6.25)

2008-01-31 Thread David Brownell
Quoth Harvey Harrison: > Ping? > What: dev->power.power_state > When: July 2007 > Why: Broken design for runtime control over driver power states, confusing > driver-internal runtime power management with: mechanisms to support > system-wide sleep state transitions; event codes that

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Harvey Harrison
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 20:53 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > --- > > > > What: CONFIG_FORCED_INLINING > > When: June 2006 > > Why:Config option is there to see if gcc is good enough. (in january > > 2006). If it is, the behavior should

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25 (USB driver api)

2008-01-31 Thread Greg KH
> --- > Ping? > What: USB driver API moves to EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL > When: February 2008 > Files:include/linux/usb.h, drivers/usb/core/driver.c > Why: The USB subsystem has changed a lot over time, and it has been > possible to create userspace USB drivers using

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
--- What: CONFIG_FORCED_INLINING When: June 2006 Why:Config option is there to see if gcc is good enough. (in january 2006). If it is, the behavior should just be the default. If it's not, the option should just go away entirely. Who:Arjan van

Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Harvey Harrison
The following are entries in feature-removal-schedule.txt that have come due. Please change the subject when replying to specific items. Where I've gotten responses from the named person in the file, I've included their comment. --- What: MXSER When: December 2007

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
--- What: CONFIG_FORCED_INLINING When: June 2006 Why:Config option is there to see if gcc is good enough. (in january 2006). If it is, the behavior should just be the default. If it's not, the option should just go away entirely. Who:Arjan van

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25 (USB driver api)

2008-01-31 Thread Greg KH
--- Ping? What: USB driver API moves to EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL When: February 2008 Files:include/linux/usb.h, drivers/usb/core/driver.c Why: The USB subsystem has changed a lot over time, and it has been possible to create userspace USB drivers using

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Harvey Harrison
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 20:53 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: --- What: CONFIG_FORCED_INLINING When: June 2006 Why:Config option is there to see if gcc is good enough. (in january 2006). If it is, the behavior should just be the

Removing dev.power.power_state (WAS: Feature Removals for 2.6.25)

2008-01-31 Thread David Brownell
Quoth Harvey Harrison: Ping? What: dev-power.power_state When: July 2007 Why: Broken design for runtime control over driver power states, confusing driver-internal runtime power management with: mechanisms to support system-wide sleep state transitions; event codes that

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
Harvey Harrison wrote: Something like the following (grep found me two example symbols) to be honest, nobody reads this file with such detail; the actual UNUSED marking is a lot more louder and people are more likely to notice those for all I care we nuke the entire entry from the

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Harvey Harrison
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 22:33 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote: Harvey Harrison wrote: Something like the following (grep found me two example symbols) to be honest, nobody reads this file with such detail; the actual UNUSED marking is a lot more louder and people are more likely to notice

Re: Feature Removals for 2.6.25

2008-01-31 Thread Stephen Hemminger
Ping? What: sk98lin network driver When: Feburary 2008 Why:In kernel tree version of driver is unmaintained. Sk98lin driver replaced by the skge driver. Who:Stephen Hemminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent a removal patch to Jeff, it probably was too big for the mailing list.