Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! > > I have seen a device by CorAccess which apparently uses Linux and didn't > > find > > anything that would suggest it complies to GPL, though I had access to the > > complete shipping package. Does anyone know about known cause of violation > > by > > this company or should I investigate

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:07 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:57 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 08:49 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > As long as they do not

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Michael Poole
Steven Rostedt writes: > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:57 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 08:49 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: >> > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > As long as they do not statically link against LGPL (or GPL) code

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Steven Rostedt
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:57 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 08:49 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > > > > > > > As long as they do not statically link against LGPL (or GPL) code and as > > > long as they do not

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 08:49 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > > > > As long as they do not statically link against LGPL (or GPL) code and as > > long as they do not link dynamically agaist GPL code. And there are > > probably more

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Steven Rostedt
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: > > As long as they do not statically link against LGPL (or GPL) code and as > long as they do not link dynamically agaist GPL code. And there are > probably more rules . > Actually, I believe that the LGPL allows for static

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 17:37 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: > Richard B. Johnson wrote: > > > No. Accompany it with a written offer to __provide__ the source > > code for any GPL stuff they used (like the kernel or drivers). > > Anything at the application-level is NOT covered by the GPL. That

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 17:37 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote: Richard B. Johnson wrote: No. Accompany it with a written offer to __provide__ the source code for any GPL stuff they used (like the kernel or drivers). Anything at the application-level is NOT covered by the GPL. That depends on

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Steven Rostedt
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: As long as they do not statically link against LGPL (or GPL) code and as long as they do not link dynamically agaist GPL code. And there are probably more rules . Actually, I believe that the LGPL allows for static linking as

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 08:49 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: As long as they do not statically link against LGPL (or GPL) code and as long as they do not link dynamically agaist GPL code. And there are probably more rules .

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Steven Rostedt
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:57 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 08:49 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: As long as they do not statically link against LGPL (or GPL) code and as long as they do not link

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Michael Poole
Steven Rostedt writes: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:57 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 08:49 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: As long as they do not statically link against LGPL (or GPL) code and as long as

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:07 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 14:57 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 08:49 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 09:30 +0200, Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: As long as they do not statically link against

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-20 Thread Pavel Machek
Hi! I have seen a device by CorAccess which apparently uses Linux and didn't find anything that would suggest it complies to GPL, though I had access to the complete shipping package. Does anyone know about known cause of violation by this company or should I investigate further?

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Chris Friesen wrote: Richard B. Johnson wrote: No. Accompany it with a written offer to __provide__ the source code for any GPL stuff they used (like the kernel or drivers). Anything at the application-level is NOT covered by the GPL. They do not have to give away their

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Friesen
Richard B. Johnson wrote: No. Accompany it with a written offer to __provide__ the source code for any GPL stuff they used (like the kernel or drivers). Anything at the application-level is NOT covered by the GPL. They do not have to give away their trade-secrets. GPL'd applications would still be

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Chris Friesen wrote: Richard B. Johnson wrote: Violation? They proudly reply in their article in http://www.linuxdevices.com that they use Linux, that they embedded a version of Red Hat, etc. It's likely that they didn't modify anything in the kernel and just used some

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Friesen
Richard B. Johnson wrote: Violation? They proudly reply in their article in http://www.linuxdevices.com that they use Linux, that they embedded a version of Red Hat, etc. It's likely that they didn't modify anything in the kernel and just used some stripped-down C-libraries to make everything

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Richard B. Johnson
Violation? They proudly reply in their article in http://www.linuxdevices.com that they use Linux, that they embedded a version of Red Hat, etc. It's likely that they didn't modify anything in the kernel and just used some stripped-down C-libraries to make everything fit. On Tue, 19 Apr

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Friesen
Charles Cazabon wrote: Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well what is the case if you use unmodified GPL code, do you still have to provide sources to the end user if you give them binaries? Yes, or a written offer to provide sources, plus a copy of the GPL. It's all spelled out

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Charles Cazabon
Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well what is the case if you use unmodified GPL code, do you still have > to provide sources to the end user if you give them binaries? Yes, or a written offer to provide sources, plus a copy of the GPL. It's all spelled out pretty clearly in the

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 05:57:43PM +, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > I have seen a device by CorAccess which apparently uses Linux and didn't find > anything that would suggest it complies to GPL, though I had access to the > complete shipping package. Does anyone know about known cause of violation

GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello I have seen a device by CorAccess which apparently uses Linux and didn't find anything that would suggest it complies to GPL, though I had access to the complete shipping package. Does anyone know about known cause of violation by this company or should I investigate further? CL< - To

GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Karel Kulhavy
Hello I have seen a device by CorAccess which apparently uses Linux and didn't find anything that would suggest it complies to GPL, though I had access to the complete shipping package. Does anyone know about known cause of violation by this company or should I investigate further? CL - To

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 05:57:43PM +, Karel Kulhavy wrote: I have seen a device by CorAccess which apparently uses Linux and didn't find anything that would suggest it complies to GPL, though I had access to the complete shipping package. Does anyone know about known cause of violation by

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Charles Cazabon
Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well what is the case if you use unmodified GPL code, do you still have to provide sources to the end user if you give them binaries? Yes, or a written offer to provide sources, plus a copy of the GPL. It's all spelled out pretty clearly in the GPL

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Friesen
Charles Cazabon wrote: Lennart Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well what is the case if you use unmodified GPL code, do you still have to provide sources to the end user if you give them binaries? Yes, or a written offer to provide sources, plus a copy of the GPL. It's all spelled out pretty

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Friesen
Richard B. Johnson wrote: Violation? They proudly reply in their article in http://www.linuxdevices.com that they use Linux, that they embedded a version of Red Hat, etc. It's likely that they didn't modify anything in the kernel and just used some stripped-down C-libraries to make everything

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Chris Friesen wrote: Richard B. Johnson wrote: Violation? They proudly reply in their article in http://www.linuxdevices.com that they use Linux, that they embedded a version of Red Hat, etc. It's likely that they didn't modify anything in the kernel and just used some

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Chris Friesen
Richard B. Johnson wrote: No. Accompany it with a written offer to __provide__ the source code for any GPL stuff they used (like the kernel or drivers). Anything at the application-level is NOT covered by the GPL. They do not have to give away their trade-secrets. GPL'd applications would still be

Re: GPL violation by CorAccess?

2005-04-19 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Chris Friesen wrote: Richard B. Johnson wrote: No. Accompany it with a written offer to __provide__ the source code for any GPL stuff they used (like the kernel or drivers). Anything at the application-level is NOT covered by the GPL. They do not have to give away their