> "rob" == Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
rob> On Saturday 23 June 2001 22:47, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Ummm... GEM was the Geos stuff? (Yeah I remember it, I haven't
>> > researched it yet though...)
>>
>> GEM was a gui from Digital
Kai Henningsen wrote:
> No. GEM, I believe, originally came from CP/M. Most popular as the
> windowing system of the Atari ST; given that someone did a quick-hack MS-
> DOS clone to support it on the 68K, it seems fairly obvious that by that
> time, it had already been ported to MS-DOS. (GEM-DOS i
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 08:26:55AM -0500, Jesse Pollard wrote:
> a DF-32 for PDP 8 systems with 32 K bytes of disk space
32768 13-bit words (12-bit plus parity)
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On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 10:09:41AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Michael Meissner wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 11:16:27AM -0400, Rob Landley wrote:
> > > The AS400 seems to be based out of Austin. We hear a lot about it around
> > > here...
> >
> > Ummm, the AS/4
Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Monday 25 June 2001 16:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
> > I learnt my computing on a PDP8/E with papertape punch/reader, RALF,
> > Fortran II, then later 2.4Mb removable cartridges (RK05 I think). toggling
> > in the bootstrap improved your concentration. M
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Michael Meissner wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 11:16:27AM -0400, Rob Landley wrote:
> > The AS400 seems to be based out of Austin. We hear a lot about it around
> > here...
>
> Ummm, the AS/400 was based out of Rochester, Minnesota at least initially. It
> was the follo
Rob Landley wrote:
>
> On Monday 25 June 2001 11:13, you wrote:
>
> > 1937 claude shannon A Symbolic Analysis of Relay and Switching Circuits,"
> >
> > 1948 claude shannon A mathematical theory of information.
> >
> > without those you're kind in trouble on the computing front...
>
> Yeah, I kn
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 12:15, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 June 2001 17:15, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jocelyn Mayer wrote:
> >
> > you get DR-DOS = Digital Research DOS, then you get Novell DOS, then
> > you get Caldera OpenDOS, currently opendos is owned by lineo
>
>
t; I'm not on the linux-kernel list but a friend forwarded me this message:
> > Subject: Re: Microsoft and Xenix.
> > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:11:01 +0100 (BST)
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > I first used Unix on a PDP11/44 whilst studying for my
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 11:16:27AM -0400, Rob Landley wrote:
> On Monday 25 June 2001 15:23, Kai Henningsen wrote:
>
> > The AS/400 is still going strong. It's a virtual machine based on a
> > relational database (among other things), mostly programmed in COBOL (I
> > think the C compiler has siz
On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 10:44:53AM -0400, Rob Landley wrote:
> Okay, so they're 2.4 megabyte removable cartridges? How big? Are they tapes
> or disk packs? (I.E. can you run off of them or are they just storage?) I
> know lots of early copies of unix were sent out from Bell Labs on RK05
> c
There seems to be a bug in the mail routing again. It may be related to the
recent problem with ditto copier history outbreaks on Linux S/390 and the
infamous 'pdp-11 memory subsystem' article routing bug that plagued
comp.os.minix once.
In the meantime can people check that their mailer hasnt s
At 10:44 AM -0400 2001-06-26, Rob Landley wrote:
>"A quarter century of unix" mentions RK05 cartridges several times, but never
>says much ABOUT them.
>
>Okay, so they're 2.4 megabyte removable cartridges? How big? Are they tapes
>or disk packs? (I.E. can you run off of them or are they just st
On Monday 25 June 2001 16:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi again,
>
>
>
> some old brain-cells got excited with the "good-ol-days" and other names
> have surfaced like "Superbrain","Sirius" and "Apricot".Sirius was Victor in
> the USA. If you go done the so-called IBM compatible route then the n
On Monday 25 June 2001 15:23, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> The AS/400 is still going strong. It's a virtual machine based on a
> relational database (among other things), mostly programmed in COBOL (I
> think the C compiler has sizeof(void*) == 16 or something like that, so
> you can put a database po
On Tuesday 26 June 2001 17:15, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jocelyn Mayer wrote:
>
> you get DR-DOS = Digital Research DOS, then you get Novell DOS, then
> you get Caldera OpenDOS, currently opendos is owned by lineo
Yes, and the source actually was open for a short time when Calder
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Jocelyn Mayer wrote:
you get DR-DOS = Digital Research DOS, then you get Novell DOS, then
you get Caldera OpenDOS, currently opendos is owned by lineo
> I think I remember that DR-DOS was the name that Caldera
> gave to the Digital Research OS, previously known as GEMDOS,
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Ah, fame at last :-)
I'm not on the linux-kernel list but a friend forwarded me this message:
> Subject: Re: Microsoft and Xenix.
> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 18:11:01 +0100 (BST)
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I first used Unix on a PDP11/44 whilst studying for my Compute
> /> > GEM was a gui from Digital Research I believe. /
> /> > Geoworks/Geos was a seperate entity. /
> /> /
> /> Ah, the DR-DOS answer to dosshell/windows. Cool. (I used Dr. Dos
> byt never /
> /> tried its gui.) /
>
> Actually I believe GEM predates DR-DOS, and except for being
> made by the s
Hi again,
some old brain-cells got excited with the "good-ol-days" and other names have
surfaced like "Superbrain","Sirius" and "Apricot".Sirius was Victor in the
USA. If you go done the so-called IBM compatible route then the nearly
compatible nightmares will arise and haunt you, your lucky
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 10:17:09AM -0400, Rob Landley wrote:
> On Monday 25 June 2001 11:13, you wrote:
> > 1937 claude shannon A Symbolic Analysis of Relay and Switching Circuits,"
> >
> > 1948 claude shannon A mathematical theory of information.
> >
> > without those you're kind in trouble on th
On Monday 25 June 2001 13:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If you're really keen on old mags and manuals I'll go up to attic and look
> around. I know there are old SCO Xenix & TCP/IP, as well as Byte and Dr
> Dobbs
>
Ooh! Yes! Very much so.
Thanks,
Rob
The mailing list for this discu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Landley) wrote on 24.06.01 in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Now if somebody here could just point me to a decent reference on A/UX -
> Apple's mid-80's version of Unix (for the early macintosh, I believe...)
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22%2ba/ux%22
Usually a good idea.
On Monday 25 June 2001 11:13, you wrote:
> 1937 claude shannon A Symbolic Analysis of Relay and Switching Circuits,"
>
> 1948 claude shannon A mathematical theory of information.
>
> without those you're kind in trouble on the computing front...
Yeah, I know I've bumped into that name (and proba
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Landley) wrote on 23.06.01 in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> on April 2, 1987. (models 50, 60, and 80.) The SAA/SNA push also extended
> through the System/370 and AS400 stuff too. (I think 370's the mainframe
> and AS400 is the minicomputer, but I'd have to look it up. One o
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 06:27:24PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I first used Unix on a PDP11/44 whilst studying for my Computer Engineering
> degree at Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh. I think they and Queen Margaret
> College, London were the first folk running Unix version 6 out
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec)
Subject: Re: Microsoft and Xenix.
Hi,
I first used Unix on a PDP11/44 whilst studying for my Computer Engineering
d
m if you want
> them.
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
> Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/24/2001 09:32:43 AM
>
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To: Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec@Altec, John Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Hi,
I first used Unix on a PDP11/44 whilst studying for my Computer Engineering
degree at Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh. I think they and Queen
Margaret
College, London were the first folk running Unix version 6 outside Bell Labs.
If anyone knows where Patrick O'Callaghan is now (ask him)
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rob Landley wrote:
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 23:07, Mike Castle wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 09:41:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Ah, yes, the RT/PC. That brings back some fond memories. My first
> > > exposure to Unix was with AIX on the RT. I still hav
On Sunday 24 June 2001 22:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sorry, but I'm hanging on to my old computer manuals. The AIX manuals in
> particular have sentimemtal value for me.
Entirely undersandable.
Would you be willing to xerox any "introduction" or "about" sections?
> OTOH, I have quite a few
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 12:20:40AM +0200, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> On Sunday 24 June 2001 12:36, Rob Landley wrote:
> > On Saturday 23 June 2001 22:47, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > > GEM was a gui from Digital Research I believe.
> > > Geoworks/Geos was a seperate entity.
> >
> > Ah, the DR-DOS an
Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 22:47, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Ummm... GEM was the Geos stuff? (Yeah I remember it, I haven't
> > > researched it yet though...)
> >
> > GEM was a gui from Digital Research I be
lcome to them if you want
them.
Wayne
Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/24/2001 09:32:43 AM
Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec@Altec, John Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Microsoft and Xenix.
On Saturday 23 June
On Sunday 24 June 2001 18:41, Chris Meadors wrote:
> Okay, I brushed on GEOS, Microsoft, Xenix, and even Linux. So I'm as on
> topic as the rest of this thread. I just have never told my story on l-k,
> and this seemed a good place to put a little of it in. :)
>
> -Chris
I just created a mail
On Sunday 24 June 2001 21:45, Jeff Dike wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > Licklidder wasn't just a bigwig behind arpanet, he also kicked off
> > project mac at MIT.
>
> You're right, but you could at least spell his name right - J. C. R.
> Licklider.
>
> Jeff (who was his last un
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rob Landley wrote:
> I know the geos had nothing to do with digital, it started as a
> windowing GUI for the commodore 64, if you can believe that...
I've actually got a copy, but it's for the Apple // :}
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Rob Landley wrote:
> I know the geos had nothing to do with digital, it started as a windowing GUI
> for the commodore 64, if you can believe that...
Not only can I belive it, but I was going to bring it up the first time
GEOS was mentioned. Having only used Macs (in school
On Sunday 24 June 2001 12:36, Rob Landley wrote:
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 22:47, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > GEM was a gui from Digital Research I believe.
> > Geoworks/Geos was a seperate entity.
>
> Ah, the DR-DOS answer to dosshell/windows. Cool. (I used Dr. Dos byt
> never tried its gui.)
On Saturday 23 June 2001 22:47, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Ummm... GEM was the Geos stuff? (Yeah I remember it, I haven't
> > researched it yet though...)
>
> GEM was a gui from Digital Research I believe.
> Geoworks/Geos was a seperate entity.
Ah, th
On Saturday 23 June 2001 22:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ah, yes, the RT/PC. That brings back some fond memories. My first
> exposure to Unix was with AIX on the RT. I still have some of those
> weird-sized RT AIX manuals around somewhere...
>
> Wayne
Ooh! Old manuals!
Would you be willing
On Saturday 23 June 2001 23:07, Mike Castle wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 09:41:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Ah, yes, the RT/PC. That brings back some fond memories. My first
> > exposure to Unix was with AIX on the RT. I still have some of those
> > weird-sized RT AIX manuals ar
On Saturday 23 June 2001 20:49, John Adams wrote:
> On Saturday 23 June 2001 10:07, Rob Landley wrote:
> > Here's what I'm looking for:
> >
> > AIX was first introduced for the IBM RT/PC in 1986, which came out of the
> > early RISC research. It was ported to PS/2 and S/370 by SAA, and was
> > ba
On Saturday 23 June 2001 20:13, Michael Alan Dorman wrote:
> Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > That would be the X version of emacs. And there's the explanation
> > for the split between GNU and X emacs: it got forked and the
> > closed-source version had a vew years of divergent develo
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 09:41:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ah, yes, the RT/PC. That brings back some fond memories. My first exposure to
> Unix was with AIX on the RT. I still have some of those weird-sized RT AIX
> manuals around somewhere...
We always ran AOS on RT's. Actually, th
Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec)
Subject: Re: Microsoft and Xenix.
On Saturday 23 June 2001 10:07, Rob Landley wrote:
> Here's what I'm looking for:
>
> AIX was first introduced for the IBM RT/PC in 1986, which came out of the
> early RISC research. It was ported to PS
Jagdis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 06/23/2001 12:57:37 PM
To: "Alan Chandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: "Rob Landley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (bcc: Wayne
Brown/Corporate/Altec)
Subject: RE: Microsoft and Xenix.
> I hope the follow
Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ummm... GEM was the Geos stuff? (Yeah I remember it, I haven't researched
> it yet though...)
GEM was a gui from Digital Research I believe.
Geoworks/Geos was a seperate entity.
It's been a long time since I looked but they both run fine under
dos
On Saturday 23 June 2001 10:07, Rob Landley wrote:
> Here's what I'm looking for:
>
> AIX was first introduced for the IBM RT/PC in 1986, which came out of the
> early RISC research. It was ported to PS/2 and S/370 by SAA, and was
> based on unix SVR2. (The book didn't specify whether the origin
Rob Landley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That would be the X version of emacs. And there's the explanation
> for the split between GNU and X emacs: it got forked and the
> closed-source version had a vew years of divergent development
> before opening back up, by which point it was very differen
On Friday 22 June 2001 18:41, Alan Chandler wrote:
> I am not subscribed to the list, but I scan the archives and saw the
> following. Please cc e-mail me in followups.
I've had several requests to start a mailing list on this, actually... Might
do so in a bit...
> I was working (and still am
On Saturday 23 June 2001 13:57, Mike Jagdis wrote:
> > I hope the following adds a more direct perspective on this, as I
> > was a user at the time.
>
> I was _almost_ at university :-). However I do have a first edition
> of the IBM Xenix Software Development Guide from december 1984. It has
> '8
> I hope the following adds a more direct perspective on this, as I
> was a user at the time.
I was _almost_ at university :-). However I do have a first edition
of the IBM Xenix Software Development Guide from december 1984. It has
'84 IBM copyright and '83 MS copyright. The SCO stuff I have goe
I am not subscribed to the list, but I scan the archives and saw the
following. Please cc e-mail me in followups.
>Rob Landley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
...
>In late '79 early '80, they heard the rumors that IBM was pondering a PC,
> and Paul Allen went "any real computer will run Unix", so th
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